The Official Costume Thread - - - - - - - - Part 17

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well I didn't think he'd be in his footie PJs:yay:

Hey, don’t laugh. I chatted with a fellow who staunchly defended the notion that a live action Supes should wear “socks.” :wow: a) this is how he was sometimes drawn (by Curt Swan?), b) it explains how the CK shoes fit over the “boots” and c) Supes has invulnerable feet and doesn’t need boots. Of course, it would look ridiculous. :cwink:

Back to MOS… since Cavill’s height is a question, I’d be surprised if he doesn’t get an assist from his footwear. And something like a one-inch heel is fairly normal on a boot.
 
hey.....if a 6'3" guy can play a 5'3" character......and there's hardly an outrage there.......

then a 6'0" guy can play a 6'2" character.........:o
 
Hey, don’t laugh. I chatted with a fellow who staunchly defended the notion that a live action Supes should wear “socks.” :wow: a) this is how he was sometimes drawn (by Curt Swan?), b) it explains how the CK shoes fit over the “boots” and c) Supes has invulnerable feet and doesn’t need boots. Of course, it would look ridiculous. :cwink:

Back to MOS… since Cavill’s height is a question, I’d be surprised if he doesn’t get an assist from his footwear. And something like a one-inch heel is fairly normal on a boot.


Well like you say, If he is invulnerable and his outfit is indestructible he wouldn't "in theory" need anything thick to wear.

But isn't he only invulnerable here on Earth? Maybe the super advanced cloth on Krypton is indestructible but he wouldn't be on his home planet or in space, away from the yellow sun, would he?

And I do hope he is wearing heals to add some height. He does not appear too tall in the Clark shots, but they do seem able to make Mel Gibson and Tom Cruse look "taller" anyway.

That's real movie magic!
 
About as clear as the bathroom mirror after a long, hot shower. Look...I'm glad to discuss the costume with you, but whenever you tell someone that they don't know something or that they're confused, you come off as a pompous wanna-be know-it-all. I'm not gonna tell you what to do, but it's one of the main reasons why I feel the urge to debate your points. Just because someone disagrees with your opinion doesn't mean they know less than you or are confused.
You're drawn to debate the points because you're confused. Once that's cleared up, it won't be an issue.

Actually...this was my point. If you re-read my last post I clearly said that any no trunk design would draw attention to the midsection regardless of the design. You just reiterated and backed up my statement.
*sigh*

The confusion is getting pretty annoying. Almost to the point where it's not even worth trying to explain it to you. Please at least try to follow the conversation and not just feverishly type away because you're "angry at someone on the internet."

About the closest thing to "natural" is the classic suit since it's already been established for close to 80 years. Anything else looks "UNNATURAL". That being said, it's your opinion that is looks forced. My opinion is that ANY design without trunks looks forced. These opinions don't disagree...however, the red piping breaks up the midsection better than blue piping.

But you JUST agreed with me that the blue piping breaks up the midsection but only MINIMALLY!! You can't have the blue piping do it's just job only MINIMALLY but still be a happy medium. A happy medium is a compromise. If one wants trunks and the other one wants blue piping, the happy medium is red piping.
I'll respond these two quotes with the same things.

When breaking up an expansive space, it should be done minimally. Would a bright pink bow tie break up the space more? Heck yes it would. But it would be flippin' overboard. It would look forced. Why go more than what is "sufficient"? You yourself said the black piping was "sufficient". Why go beyond that to the point where it becomes more distracting than is necessary? When you go beyond what is necessary, THAT is what becomes unnatural and forced. It's just throwing in colors for the sheer sake of having splashes of color everywhere. At that point, there's no logic for it being there other than to have random colors.

Ah...well at least you're not someone who blindly loves everything the movie throws at them.
See, people like you are the real problem with these types of boards, and the reason I avoid them during the "offseason" (i.e., when a movie isn't in production). You think you have to be critical of something to be a "true" fan, even if the thing you're criticizing is good, as is. It's why people HATE fanboys and don't take their opinions seriously.
 
hey.....if a 6'3" guy can play a 5'3" character......and there's hardly an outrage there.......

then a 6'0" guy can play a 6'2" character.........:o


What 6-3 guy played a 5-3 character? just curious.

Lord of the rings?
 
Wolverine, Hugh Jackman


True, But they did not try to make him look smaller. But it did work for the film, though I'm sure it bothered some fans.

I guess Superman can be tall or short or average.


Even the wimpiest Kryptonian here on earth would kick but.

he just needs to have "presence"


loved the cameo in first class!
 
hey.....if a 6'3" guy can play a 5'3" character......and there's hardly an outrage there.......

then a 6'0" guy can play a 6'2" character.........:o

Superman is 6,3 not 6,2.
 
I don't know if that shot helps the cause or not but I am sure we will see some of him to prove his shape is not all padding.


(pic from SatEL disappeared... Unless it's me...)
 
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Superman is 6,3 not 6,2.


Is it really documented how tall he supposed to be in the comics? I know the films seem to say he is tall.

I think if he is supposed to be 6-3, then they are out of luck, unless all the supporting actors are tiny
 
I wonder how those "boots" stay up?

Super Support Hose!
:lmao: This is so funny cause I just saw some infomercial for something called "The Miracle Sock" and I just sat there saying, "isn't that just thick panty hose?".
For those who think Cavill's physique is solely dependent on the MOS (Superman) suit, here's another rare pic from Immortals:

Immortal_Cavill_pumped.jpg
And keep in mind, he was supposedly 25 lbs lighter in muscle mass when this picture was taken.
:eek: He's certainly toned. We should have at least one shirtless scene in this movie.
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seriously.......are we really arguing over the size of Henry's bulge?? :huh:
Apparently...
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The 6'0 Christian Bale plays Batman, who in the comics is 6'2.

Why can't the 6'1 Cavill play Superman? Boot soles and movie magic will make up the couple of inches in height.
 
You're drawn to debate the points because you're confused. Once that's cleared up, it won't be an issue.
How about you worry about your own confusion rather than others'? You keep telling others that they don't know anything or that they're confused. Again, this makes you seem like a pompous wanna-be know-it-all. I'm not confused. You're just arrogant...

*sigh*

The confusion is getting pretty annoying. Almost to the point where it's not even worth trying to explain it to you. Please at least try to follow the conversation and not just feverishly type away because you're "angry at someone on the internet."
Not as annoying as you telling others what they do or do not know. If you want to discuss the suit, then do it. There's no reason to tell someone else, especially someone who designs for a living, that they don't know what they're talking about or that they're confused. Again, read my sig...karma is a ***** and I will continue to throw this kind of stuff back in your face as long as you throw it out.

When breaking up an expansive space, it should be done minimally. Would a bright pink bow tie break up the space more? Heck yes it would. But it would be flippin' overboard. It would look forced.
I bright pink bow tie is not only overboard and forced, but it's illogical. There's nothing else on his suit that is bright pink or reflective of a modern day business suit. However, the piping on his suit fits superhero suits just fine. The color of it is a matter of preference, and some of us simply prefer it to be red.

Why go more than what is "sufficient"? You yourself said the black piping was "sufficient". Why go beyond that to the point where it becomes more distracting than is necessary?
Do you need a car? Do you need a house? Do you need a tv? Do you need a microwave? Do you need a self phone or a computer? Does Superman need a cape a big shield on his chest or big red boots? Does he even need a suit at ALL?? If you can answer these questions then you've just answered your own...

When you go beyond what is necessary, THAT is what becomes unnatural and forced. It's just throwing in colors for the sheer sake of having splashes of color everywhere. At that point, there's no logic for it being there other than to have random colors.
Again, it's not like we want the piping to be hot pink or green. We'd like for it to be red because it ties it in with the rest of the suit and breaks up the midsection better than it does if it's dark blue. It gives the piping more purpose.

See, people like you are the real problem with these types of boards, and the reason I avoid them during the "offseason" (i.e., when a movie isn't in production). You think you have to be critical of something to be a "true" fan, even if the thing you're criticizing is good, as is. It's why people HATE fanboys and don't take their opinions seriously.
No, the problem with these boards are people who claim to know everything and can't discuss issues without turning it into a personal issue with the poster or posters. You don't know me at all, yet you claim that I don't know this and I'm confused about that. For your info, I've always HATED when people bring up "true fans" because you can't define what makes one a fan. I was simply saying that you're not a blind fan who follows the other sheep. However, I guess you took that more as an insult rather than a compliment.

Btw...if you're an active poster on these boards, consider yourself a fanboy. Fanboys don't hold a particular type of view. You are here discussing/debating/arguing with other fanboys on this forum (taking them seriously)...so you might as well consider yourself a fanboy as well.
 
Superman is 6,3 not 6,2.

Is it really documented how tall he supposed to be in the comics? I know the films seem to say he is tall.

Yes. But it depends which “document” is being cited. :cwink: A 1963 issue of Action lists Supes as 6’2”. But he seems to have grown since then. :woot:
 
The 6'0 Christian Bale plays Batman, who in the comics is 6'2.

Why can't the 6'1 Cavill play Superman? Boot soles and movie magic will make up the couple of inches in height.


Does he really look 6-1? I know the tabs say he is, but then thaey say Stallone is 6ft too. (as well)

Those set pics look like he is maybe 5-10 5-11. Anyone see "Whatever Works" ? not very tall there
 
The 6'0 Christian Bale plays Batman, who in the comics is 6'2.

Why can't the 6'1 Cavill play Superman? Boot soles and movie magic will make up the couple of inches in height.

Cavill looks pretty tall to me. He could even be closer to 6'2 I think. Either way, 1 or 2 inches difference in height isn't a big deal.
 
I don't think the artists are ever that consistent, no matter what the official height is. Some artists make him look like he should be 6'8 really.
 
Yes. But it depends which “document” is being cited. :cwink: A 1963 issue of Action lists Supes as 6’2”. But he seems to have grown since then. :woot:

6'2 is pretty damn tall unless you live in the Netherlands or somewhere similar.
 
He's certainly toned.

In that Immortals shot I posted above, his physique actually looks quite similar to the way it does in the MOS (Superman) suit I think. In essence, the suit accomplishes what it was meant to do in terms of accentuation.
 
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Which reminds me, what is the difference between padding and a muscle suit?
 
Does he really look 6-1? I know the tabs say he is, but then thaey say Stallone is 6ft too. (as well)

Those set pics look like he is maybe 5-10 5-11. Anyone see "Whatever Works" ? not very tall there

Celebheights.com is not at all shy about “outing” actors who exaggerate. :cwink: They list Cavill at 6’ ½".
 
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