The Official Costume Thread - - - - - - - - Part 17

[Nathan]

Agreed. My biggest complaint is that there's too much blue. The red piping would honestly help to break it up a little.

 

[Lily Adler]

Anyone notice the velcro cape attachment? Ugh, just saying the word reminds me of that awful tearing sound.

 

[ElDuderino]

It compensates for the lack of color in that area. As it currently is, it's just a bunch of blue with a touch of dull yellow here and there. The red piping makes the mid section pop more. If anything it makes the design more interesting and bearable for those who miss the trunks.

There's not "just a bunch of blue". There's blue, black and yellow. The piping is readily apparent. It's stands out as is and adequately breaks up the suit. Making it red only serves to make it distracting. It looks unnatural.

If someone can't see the piping, there's an issue with their vision. It's pops out at you, as is. Making it red just takes the suit down a notch. There is plenty of red when the cape is added.

 

[DorkyFresh]

There's not "just a bunch of blue". There's blue, black and yellow.

I don't see any black.. but other than the small splashes yellow, it IS a bunch of blue.

The piping is readily apparent. It's stands out as is and adequately breaks up the suit.

It's apparent, but it doesn't adequately break up the suit.

Making it red only serves to make it distracting. It looks unnatural.

Yes...because that big red and yellow "S" in the middle of his chest TOTALLY look "natural". [/sarcasm] Making the piping red is not distracting since the most important part of the costume (the shield) is still the main emphasis.

Making it red just takes the suit down a notch. There is plenty of red when the cape is added.

Disagreed...making the piping red makes it more aesthetically pleasing.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

idk the red piping feels kinda forced.

 

[ElDuderino]

idk the red piping feels kinda forced.

Very much so.

 

[Rodrigo90]

I agree that the red would look out of place, but in a way, it would've compensated for the lack of trunks.

 

[DorkyFresh]

idk the red piping feels kinda forced.

The lack of trunks feels forced, so any design that is spawned from the lack of trunks will feel forced. The blue piping is okay, but making the piping red compensates for the lack of red in the mid section. It also gives the piping MORE significance.

 

[Rodrigo90]

You have black/gray(?) piping on the abdomen, yellow on the waist. Red would've definitely worked on the legs.

Looked more like an alien design if you ask me

 

[Lily Adler]

Okay what do you guys think about Faora's suit?

 

[ElDuderino]

The lack of trunks feels forced, so any design that is spawned from the lack of trunks will feel forced. The blue piping is okay, but making the piping red compensates for the lack of red in the mid section. It also gives the piping MORE significance.

That's largely irrelevant to the discussion. You may not like the trunks being gone, but it doesn't make the red piping any less forced, as compared to the dark blue/black piping.

The piping is, in a way, a bit extravagant, or at least out of the ordinary. Because of that, it works well as a dark blue/black material. When it's highlighted against the blue suit (i.e., red colored, vs. the more muted dark blue/black), it gets very busy and eye-catching, almost distracting. Hence, it appears forced.

 

[Nathan]

I really like this design. IMO, it makes better use of the three main colors and looks a lot more aesthetically pleasing, than a big dark blue figure with red boots.

 

[Lily Adler]

^ Good job to the person who did the manip. But I still kind of hate that look. That's just WAY TOO MUCH RED. It looks tacky.

Personally, I think Faora's costume is just too much like a Power Rangers villain. I think it's the cape. Maybe they didn't want anyone making Spy Kids jokes like Anne's Catwoman suit.

As for Zod, I think we may be getting his armor look or something similar.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

There's not "just a bunch of blue". There's blue, black and yellow. The piping is readily apparent. It's stands out as is and adequately breaks up the suit. Making it red only serves to make it distracting. It looks unnatural.

If someone can't see the piping, there's an issue with their vision. It's pops out at you, as is. Making it red just takes the suit down a notch. There is plenty of red when the cape is added.

Agreed we don't need any red in that area, (not unless it's trunks lol) it'll just make it look more cluttered imo. Keep it subtle I say, that's if you could call any of Superman's costume subtle!

 

[Superman_200]

Agreed. My biggest complaint is that there's too much blue. The red piping would honestly help to break it up a little.

What I miss about the red is that it makes the red boots stand out too much without the cape, but with the cape it compliments it more. But in set pictures, it still appears interesting to me that the cape is red with the red boots which gives the illusion that he has no feet sometimes or shins. But on the screen I am sure it will look pretty cool. I find it very hard to believe that Snyder could screw up with the visuals of a movie.

 

[DKDetective]

Agreed we don't need any red in that area, (not unless it's trunks lol) it'll just make it look more cluttered imo. Keep it subtle I say, that's if you could call any of Superman's costume subtle!

Agreed! I was at first upset about the missing trunks but overall I don't miss them anymore. I don't see the issue about the blue bodysuit NEEDING to be broken up. I think it looks great as is. The blue body contrasts well with the full length red cape and the boots and symbol are prominent enough to accent the blue and make it not look overpowering or boring in my opinion.

If I could change one thing, I would make belt and buckle larger and more prominent. I think that would more than enough to fix the issue some of you have.

I'm gunna get flamed for this, but I honestly think the MOS suit is more traditional and classically Superman looking than the Returns suit to me. The Returns suit had all the traditional details but messed the overall look up so much that it didn't look as Superman-esque in the ways that matter. The chest symbol size, neckline, and cape attachments issues threw the whole design off. Take off the symbols and it could be any of countless superheroes based on Superman model.

This suit, while revisionist in some aspects, has the basic ideas and lines SO right that I don't care about some weird "piping". The cape, neckline, boots, large chest symbol, and even the belt are classically Superman that they far outweigh the loss of the trunks and the more muted colours (which to me scream Fleischer cartoons so that doesn't matter).

 

[ElDuderino]

I think it's just that it looks good, regardless of whether it's revisionist or not. People hate change, but as long as something looks good, regardless of change, they'll accept it and even like it eventually. Just like the movie itself -- if the movie turns out to be enjoyable, people won't give two ****s about the briefs. The minority of fanboys showing disdain for the lack of briefs have already hushed to a mostly inaudible whimper, and that's almost solely because it just looks cool. Snyder & Co. hit one out of the park with this redesign.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I think it's just that it looks good, regardless of whether it's revisionist or not. People hate change, but as long as something looks good, regardless of change, they'll accept it and even like it eventually. Just like the movie itself -- if the movie turns out to be enjoyable, people won't give two ****s about the briefs. The minority of fanboys showing disdain for the lack of briefs have already hushed to a mostly inaudible whimper, and that's almost solely because it just looks cool. Snyder & Co. hit one out of the park with this redesign.

 

[Troy_Parker]

This thing about the red trunks missing making the suit look incomplete is reminding me of everyone that said the reboot suit for Spider-Man looks incomplete because it didn't have a red belt.

 

[StarvingArtist]

Would love to have seen what the discussions would have been like if they had just completely gotten rid of the suit

 

[Troy_Parker]

So I take it you don't like the reboot suit/s. 0.0

 

[StarvingArtist]

So I take it you don't like the reboot suit/s. 0.0

I think it looks neat though a little cheesy, a little power-rangersey. I don't think it's enough to modernize Superman if that was one of the motivations for the design. It's still a man in tights and a cape. And I've never been able to take it seriously as an alien garment. Too many movies, books, comics have had way more interesting alien designs that actually look truly alien. At this point, I'm fine with letting the past be the past. Reeve just completely nailed it back in 1978 and set the bar way too high. Only way to make a truly surprising, interesting Superman movie is to completely reinvent the character for a modern age.

 

[Krypto]

ha ha ha Krypto obviously doesn't realize that we talk talk talk all this stuff to death and NO ONE is going to wait until after the movie comes out to give their opinions.

Hahahaaa.... oke.... i talk abou it too till death.....hahahaa

 

[Lily Adler]

It feels like we've had this discussion before. I'm tellin' ya.

 

[DorkyFresh]

That's largely irrelevant to the discussion.

Not really...

You may not like the trunks being gone, but it doesn't make the red piping any less forced, as compared to the dark blue/black piping.

You may like the suit as is, but it doesn't make piping of any color any less forced. The red piping doesn't look anymore forced than blue piping. If anything, I'd say red piping makes the suit more warm and Supermanly than the dark blue piping which ends up making the suit feel more cold and bleak.

The piping is, in a way, a bit extravagant, or at least out of the ordinary. Because of that, it works well as a dark blue/black material. When it's highlighted against the blue suit (i.e., red colored, vs. the more muted dark blue/black), it gets very busy and eye-catching, almost distracting. Hence, it appears forced.

It's only distracting if you're looking directly at it. If you look at the suit as a whole (like you're supposed to do with any finished product) the shield is still very much the center piece of the suit and the red piping hardly distracts as much as you're implying.

People hate change, but as long as something looks good, regardless of change, they'll accept it and even like it eventually.

I am an artist who is constantly changing his style and methods to adapt to whatever the job or trends require of me. I actually LIKE change, as long as it is warranted and is done tastefully. Regardless of if you like the changes or not, it doesn't mean that the suit isn't subject to criticism. I criticize MANY things that I actually love. I love The Dark Knight but it has inconsistencies. I love System of the Down but there are things that they sing about that I don't agree with. I LIKE this suit, but there are certain things they could've done to make it better (not even talking about trunks).

The minority of fanboys showing disdain for the lack of briefs have already hushed to a mostly inaudible whimper, and that's almost solely because it just looks cool.

If that's so, then why are they constantly being discussed in this thread?

Snyder & Co. hit one out of the park with this redesign.

I'd say they did a great job with most of it. There isn't anything that I HATE they way I disliked the collar and boots on Singerman, but there are things that they could have done to really make it awesome.