The Official Costume Thread - - - - - - - - Part 17

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I don't get it.

Batman wears black in the movies, isn't the gray suit iconic?
Batman has no trunks in the Re-launch, nobody minds they are gone.

But Superman having naymore trunks in film sparks a riot. The only bad thing about the Re-launch's costume is that its armour.

So what IS the problem in this film? That the suit is no longer iconic? Or just cause the trunks are missing?
 
I don't get it.

Batman wears black in the movies, isn't the gray suit iconic?
Batman has no trunks in the Re-launch, nobody minds they are gone.

But Superman having naymore trunks in film sparks a riot. The only bad thing about the Re-launch's costume is that its armour.

So what IS the problem in this film? That the suit is no longer iconic? Or just cause the trunks are missing?

it just doesn't look 'right'. :oldrazz:

it looks 'off'. it looks 'lacking/missing'. it looks incomplete.

and most of all, it doesn't look better than it with the trunks on.
 
but if you cant have the trunks the cavill suit is more than acceptable
 
Batman's gray suit isn't close to being as iconic as Supes suit. Batman 89 and TDK are cultural phenomenons, neither featured that suit. The public is aware of the gray suit with the trunks, but they associate that with Adam West, a joke.
 
Is all this stuff about the trunks and the lawsuit pure speculation, or is there stuff backing this up?
 
but if you cant have the trunks the cavill suit is more than acceptable

most of us didn't say that it isn't unacceptable.

mostly we said disappointed because we know it will look so much better with the red trunks, yellow belt on! really.
 
it just doesn't look 'right'. :oldrazz:

it looks 'off'. it looks 'lacking/missing'. it looks incomplete.

and most of all, it doesn't look better than it with the trunks on.

Sez you. I think it looks great. It looks like something Superman might actually wear if he appeared in our world today. Not an outfit created a half century ago.
 
Most of you want no change to anything or do anything different with the Superman character. You don't want the director to have any creative freedom to do anything different because you can't get over your childhood view of what Superman looks like and does.

This movie is already sounding recyled enough as is, I'm glad the suit is noticably different.

Also Batman's suit is very iconic and to deny that is to deny reality and try to mold it to fit one's view of the issue.

You guys can want to see the same movie with the same astetic over and over again but I'm not like that, I think after 5 movies of almost the exact same thing Superman can try something different for once. I wish they would push the storyline even more than they are to be honest because it's sounding a little too safe and samey for my taste.
 
Sez you. I think it looks great. It looks like something Superman might actually wear if he appeared in our world today. Not an outfit created a half century ago.

if by your calculation, superman is a 70+ years old man now.

anyhow, i agree... it looks great... but in an odd way.

it will look much greater with the trunks on. and in the 'right' way too. :p
 
Most of you want no change to anything or do anything different with the Superman character. You don't want the director to have any creative freedom to do anything different because you can't get over your childhood view of what Superman looks like and does.

This movie is already sounding recyled enough as is, I'm glad the suit is noticably different.

Also Batman's suit is very iconic and to deny that is to deny reality and try to mold it to fit one's view of the issue.

You guys can want to see the same movie with the same astetic over and over again but I'm not like that, I think after 5 movies of almost the exact same thing Superman can try something different for once. I wish they would push the storyline even more than they are to be honest because it's sounding a little too safe and samey for my taste.

just wanna to say that batman suit is different in each and every of the 6 movies.
 
It still looks like the same rubber ****fest to me. The point is before the movie in 89 Batman's costume looked like it's comicbook counterpart. When it changed people accepted it and moved on because they liked the films.

The truth is how Superman's costume looks isn't going to matter much one way or the other to people outside of messageboards as long as it isn't a disaster and the design choice isn't a disaster so it's all good. MOS being a good movie and being promoted right will be the reason for it being a hit not the costume.

Note how the more inconic verson of Superman's costume didn't cause people to love Superman Returns. It was still greeted with meh's from half of it's audience.
 
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The film has been shot.. so your complainings are useless... just wait the movie.. then get your opinion here...
 
ha ha ha Krypto obviously doesn't realize that we talk talk talk all this stuff to death and NO ONE is going to wait until after the movie comes out to give their opinions.
 
It still looks like the same rubber ****fest to me. The point is before the movie in 89 Batman's costume looked like it's comicbook counterpart. When it changed people accepted it and moved on because they liked the films.

Indeed. I really like the material used to create the new MOS suit. It's sturdy and durable looking without coming off like armor. When BB and TDK were being made, fans accepted the rubber suit because the notion of Batman wearing mere cloth/spandex was a little out there. If Linda Hemming (costume designer for BB, TDK and 007) was then able to come up with a fabric similar to what is being used for Superman in MOS now, I think a lot of fans would have much preferred that though. I know I would have. With that said, kudos to the Snyder camp for the new Superman costume design. I'm still not crazy about the extra seams/designs on it, but it's growing on me.
 
For anyone interested, these are old descriptions of how the batsuit would have supposedly appeared on film prior to the release of Batman Begins. (According to Jett from BOF, the sources were highly reliable.)
We all know, however, that the finished product didn't look much at all like what was initially hinted at.

Here they are:

"I have not seen it myself, but an old costume deptartment friend has been working on it and tells me that it is based on the Alex Ross designs from the graphic novels. Dark (very) grey bodice, black bat chest (with no yellow shield), tight-fitting mask (that moves - meaning, frowns and squints and so on - but do not hold me or my source to that as he/she? has only seen a 3rd level prototype of the cowl) with prominent ears, overall an extremely tight fitting outfit (presumably to show off Bale's gym work, or, from what I have been told, to finally make the point that Bruce Wayne is a gym junkie, not a rich dope in armour)."

"The inner bodysuit is definitely dark grey but leather and used looking, not shiny like in the last movies but a material that looks like a second skin. The chest area features a large black bat emblem that doesn't look like the one from the movies or the comics but looks very cool

"Material that looks like a second skin?" "Extremely tight fitting outfit (to show off the actor's gym work)?"
That's what we were supposed to get with the new Batman films, but we didn't. We're seeing this type of design now, though, with Snyder's Man of Steel; and for that, I'm grateful.
 
after waiting another two years, It will have grown on all of us.

We will be very used to seeing this new outfit by the time the film comes out
 
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Frustration! Thank you for reminding me it was 2 years away. Now anticipation will make it feel like decades will go by.
 
For anyone interested, these are old descriptions of how the batsuit would have supposedly appeared on film prior to the release of Batman Begins. (According to Jett from BOF, the sources were highly reliable.)
We all know, however, that the finished product didn't look much at all like what was initially hinted at.

Here they are:

"I have not seen it myself, but an old costume deptartment friend has been working on it and tells me that it is based on the Alex Ross designs from the graphic novels. Dark (very) grey bodice, black bat chest (with no yellow shield), tight-fitting mask (that moves - meaning, frowns and squints and so on - but do not hold me or my source to that as he/she? has only seen a 3rd level prototype of the cowl) with prominent ears, overall an extremely tight fitting outfit (presumably to show off Bale's gym work, or, from what I have been told, to finally make the point that Bruce Wayne is a gym junkie, not a rich dope in armour)."

"The inner bodysuit is definitely dark grey but leather and used looking, not shiny like in the last movies but a material that looks like a second skin. The chest area features a large black bat emblem that doesn't look like the one from the movies or the comics but looks very cool

"Material that looks like a second skin?" "Extremely tight fitting outfit (to show off the actor's gym work)?"
That's what we were supposed to get with the new Batman films, but we didn't. We're seeing this type of design now, though, with Snyder's Man of Steel; and for that, I'm grateful.

I'd say pretty much every single detail mentioned was wrong, even the logo looked like the traditional oval-less logo.
 
Frustration! Thank you for reminding me it was 2 years away. Now anticipation will make it feel like decades will go by.

The anticipation is part of the fun I think. Even though you may feel satisfied when you finally do get to see the film, there's a slight sense of disappointment that comes a long with that since it's all over -- until the sequel.
 
Could be worse. We could not be getting a new superman flick.
Pretty sneaky, sis!
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The anticipation is part of the fun I think. Even though you may feel satisfied when you finally do get to see the film, there's a slight sense of disappointment that comes a long with that since it's all over -- until the sequel.
True, but anticipation will eventually build to hype, which is something I'm trying to avoid. I don't want to be burned twice.
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it just doesn't look 'right'. :oldrazz:

it looks 'off'. it looks 'lacking/missing'. it looks incomplete.

and most of all, it doesn't look better than it with the trunks on.

It's just something we must get used to. I know you may look at Cavill, spit at the screen, and sip your vodka trying to dull the pain, but it won't help :p

I respect that you and the others want the classic look back.

But to me, it's still Superman. 90% of that costume screams the Man of Steel. I like the creativeness behind it, I like the texture, I like the material. The only thing I'm not happy about, is that they didn't put the yellow on the cape :)
 
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