The Official DC Stupid Question Thread....

[Anubis]

Supposedly.

 

[yenaled]

I have 2 questions...

1. does anyone know if there is a collected version of the International Batmen arc that happened a few months ago and if so what was the name of it?

Batmen of All Nations tpb

2. The Flash...ok he has the superspeed thing going on but does that mean he also has some sort of invulnerability going on that im not aware of...I would think that going that fast his skin would burn up and hitting something at that speed would just crush him...so is he in Superman territory with the invulnerabilty thing?

No invulnerability per say just Speedforce

Hey TheCorpulent1 is Batman RIP worth the buy?

Corp didn't read it because he is a masochist. It is great.

 

[CBG]

I personally liked RIP.

Due to its "significance" for Batman, I would guess it may be Absolute'd some years down the road.

 

[robinjr]

Hey I gotta a question. Have Owen mercer and Bart allen ever met. Since they are half brothers it would be cool to see

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I didn't read RIP because I didn't really give a s*** about it, not out of any malice toward it. Morrison's always been sort of questionable with Batman to me. He sort of made him way too incredible at everything in JLA. Plus, Kubert was drawing the comic when Morrison started, so I knew it'd be late, plus I learned that a long-lost son was involved. Those are three strikes in my book right off the bat (no pun intended).

As for the Flash: the Speed Force creates an aura around speedsters that mitigates friction and protects them from impact to a certain degree. It's still very much possible for speedsters to get badly injured if they trip or hit something--Wally broke both his legs when he lost his balance and went bouncing for miles--but the SF aura boosts their physical resistance to superhuman levels.

The Speed Force can also heal them by speeding up their bodies' natural rate of healing, although it's essentially like fast-forwarding the clock. Walter West, an alternate universe version of Wally, got struck by Abra Kadabra's lightning repeatedly, sped his body up so much that he healed almost instantly from each strike, and wound up physically aging about 10 years in the few seconds the battle lasted.

Oh, and the Speed Force can also create a costume that can, through concentration, actually support the speedster's whole body and move for them. Wally used a SF suit for just such a situation when his legs were both broken in the incident I mentioned two paragraphs ago.

 

[yenaled]

What was the reason they gave for Wally to stop using the Speed Force costume?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He'd forgotten how in Ignition. He stumbled on Barry's Flash ring, which triggered his memories. Then, for no apparent reason, he kept using Barry's silly super-expanding costume from the ring. Only it looked like his costume, again for no apparent reason.

So, basically, blatant Silver Age fanboyism from Johns.

 

[yenaled]

Ahhh that's right. That was a weak part of Ignition.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Eh, it didn't bother me too much in the long run. The Speed Force costume is so infinitely cooler as a concept than a costume that compresses to fit in a ring, though.

 

[yenaled]

I don't mind it so much because of the nostalgia, same way when Barry shouted out "Flash Fact" in FC it didn't bother me... but I don't like them permanently replacing good ideas with outdated ones for the sake of nostalgia or as DiDio puts it "recognisability".

And DC has been doing that a lot.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I'm okay with returning to cool ideas. But there've been cool ideas since 1980, too.

 

[BrianWilly]

Well let's see what Dan DiDio has to say about that!

Take it away, Dan DiDio.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/020925-DiDio.html

10. Something that was brought up a couple of times in the thread – the other side of the coin of making sure the characters are shown in their most iconic representations. It seems that slows down the idea of progression – something that DC was at one time really moving towards...

DD: And I disagree.

NRAMA: So progression still happens even when the most iconic versions of the characters are wearing the costume?

DD: Yeah, because we have to go back to them. It’s not that we stopped the storyline or erased continuity to get back to Hal as Green Lantern and Barry as Flash – Barry Allen will be built out of the story of his departure and everything that has happened since then. Hal Jordan was built on everything that occurred to Hal Jordan, including the change to Parallax and even his becoming The Spectre. None of that has been wiped out. So if we’re returning characters to their iconic nature, we’re not just going and telling ‘60s or ‘70s style stories – that couldn’t be further from the truth. This is the natural progression and evolution of the DC Universe. This is the next phase. It just happens to involve the return of characters who were there at an earlier stage in the history of the DC Universe, and they’re coming back. That’s all. It’s all part of the ongoing story and the ongoing history.

The characters that they’ve replaced are still there and accessible, and now they are still part of the next generation of the heroes of the DC Universe who will be carrying the stories into 2009 and beyond.

11. So there’s still a role for the second generation characters who took the role while their mentors were not in it?

DD: There will be an enormous role for them moving forward. There’s a big role for them now – Kyle is in Green Lantern Corps, so he’s never been marginalized; Wally and Connor, and even Cassandra Cain will be appearing throughout the year, and will be seen in roles where they really have a chance to shine.

Or be dragged through the mud, depending on how you approach it.

Wait what was that again, Dan?

Kyle is in Green Lantern Corps, so he’s never been marginalized

Wait what...?

Kyle’s never been marginalized

*fistthroughscreen*

I'm sorry but that is SUCH HORSE****. I can't even. Ugh. Oh my God. I. Guh.

GUH. Look. I've been singing the praises of GLC ever since issue one, long before Kyle ever appeared in it, long before it all of a sudden became the cool nu thing 'cause it ties into Blackest Night or whatefer. But GLC is not the DC Universe. We all know that there's many facets to the DCU; the main, central face being the JLA and the JSA, and then possibly the Titans on a good day. When was the last time Kyle took a direct part in that aspect of the DCU -- that central face -- alongside the likes of Superman and Batman like he used to? When was the last time he wasn't just the cameo in the background, the small face amidst other small faces in DCU group shots, that is if the artist even remembers to include him? When was the last time that Kyle's face appeared appeared on a poster I mean, he was a headliner in Countdown. And the entire point of Countdown was to use C-listers to headline a series. Donna Troy. Jason Todd. Piper and Trickster. Holly ****ing Robinson. That was Kyle's status for the past years. "Never been marginalized"? Compared to what, exactly?

And enough that he's deluded himself into thinking that of Kyle, but to claim that of characters like Connor Hawke and Cassandra Cain what are you ****ing kidding me. "Never been marginalized"? That's all that they have been!

And I'm not saying that it's the most horrible thing in the world to be a C-lister. Most good characters probably are C-listers depending on who you ask. But don't sell me horse**** by calling it grass! You made your "creative," "executive" choice to have your headlining A-list be dead white guys from the silver age. Others have been marginalized to make that happen. Maybe it was inevitable, maybe it wasn't, but don't pretend it didn't ****ing happen. The A-list needs breathing room in order to be A-list, it's practically in the definition.

 

[CBG]

*long rant*

I can go on a similar tirade. . . but I'll let this convey my opinion.

 

[BrianWilly]

I see your opinion and raise you a

 

[Harlekin]

Eh, it didn't bother me too much in the long run. The Speed Force costume is so infinitely cooler as a concept than a costume that compresses to fit in a ring, though.

**** it. I love the Flash ring.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

The Speedforce costume is beyond ridiculous to me, Reading that they would actually do that makes me numb with despair for the industry. Even given that I hate the Speedforce in the first place, that is unimaginable.

 

[anrrd_2]

I can go on a similar tirade. . . but I'll let this convey my opinion.

I see your opinion and raise you a

BWAHAHAHAHA

 

[The Question]

I like the speed force, but I think it started to go a little too far at some points. I mean, what exactly to speed force constructs have to do with velocity or kinetic energy?

 

[Hush]

Why is this thread not stickied anymore?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I like the speed force, but I think it started to go a little too far at some points. I mean, what exactly to speed force constructs have to do with velocity or kinetic energy?

Eh, it's a cool catch-all for interesting powers. It's no more or less ridiculous than a lot of other powers in comics.

 

[Hush]

I like the speed force, but I think it started to go a little too far at some points. I mean, what exactly to speed force constructs have to do with velocity or kinetic energy?

Well I mean it makes more sense than a cloth costume not getting torn to bits when approaching the speed of light. If the Speed Force is like an aura or life force, it would make sense that it would protect it's users.

 

[CLARKY]

Eh, it didn't bother me too much in the long run. The Speed Force costume is so infinitely cooler as a concept than a costume that compresses to fit in a ring, though.

Yeah i agree completely. The idea of the suit "hyper-comporessed in a ring (??) " seems completely dull to me. Again, to me wally west is the very concept of the Flash character but a maturated idea. I think they should get rid of the ring. because it is tradition of nostalgia does not mean it is good. That and "hey hello barry, would you analyse this ... OMG !! you are the flash !?!?!?! -what? no! of course not ! - come on ! I see your ring !!

I don't mind it so much because of the nostalgia, same way when Barry shouted out "Flash Fact" in FC it didn't bother me... but I don't like them permanently replacing good ideas with outdated ones for the sake of nostalgia or as DiDio puts it "recognisability".
And DC has been doing that a lot.

I am in complete agreement with every word you just said. The nostalgia doe snot disturb me, but "permanently replacing good ideas with outdated ones for the sake of nostalgia (or as DiDio puts it "recognisability") " is bad IMO.
I fear the moment when I will read Barry saying the traditionnal and IMO naively stupid "sorry, I'm late". I do not understand how the fastest man alive can be ALWAYS late.
...
oh wait he said it in Final Crisis already. My god.

 

[Anubis]

The Speedforce costume is beyond ridiculous to me, Reading that they would actually do that makes me numb with despair for the industry. Even given that I hate the Speedforce in the first place, that is unimaginable.

Well that's because you suck.

 

[Bnightwing]

No invulnerability per say just Speedforce



Corp didn't read it because he is a masochist. It is great.

why is it great?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Because yen is a sadist. Watch your limbs around him. For God's sake, watch your limbs!