The Official DC Stupid Question Thread....

[Anubis]

What is Superman: Secret Identity?

Well, do you know who Superboy Prime is? He's the superboy of Earth Prime, which is essentially our Earth. One without any superheros. Here's this kid, whose name is Clark Kent. Always gets s**t from everybody because of his name (being the same as the comicbook character Superman) One day, he wakes up, and he's got Superman's powers. Well, this is the story of how that superboys life would have went had that whole Crisis thing not happened. Grows up. Has kids. all that. It's brilliant.

 

[Anubis]

Sandman is a very good comic, but it's not for everyone. It moves pretty slowly, and it's like reading a long fairy tale or mythology.

The reason you were confused was because you picked up Vol. 2. It's not one of those comics you can pick up somewhere in the middle. At all. It has to be read from the beginning, in sequential order.

Exactly.

If you want to give it another shot, I'd suggest picking up Endless Knights. It's a nice introduction to the entire Endless family. But if this sorta story telling isn't your cup of tea, don't waste your money.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The Martian Manhunter cameos in volume 1 of Sandman. Read it! It's accessible!

 

[yenaled]

Haha Neil Gaiman really dislikes the JLA story in volume 1.

He says it was his unsuccessful attempt of combining the DCU with Sandman.

I should say as well if you don't like Sandman there will be a good probability that RIP isn't for you.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

As I understand it, Infinite Crisis ended with the creation of New Earth as the only Earth. But now I read that there exists a new multiverse. I tried reading up on the formation of the new multiverse in Wiki , and read that it had something to do with Mister Mind, but it's still not clear to me.

My questions: How was this new multiverse created and who created it?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The new Multiverse was created in 52. It started out as 52 other Earths that were identical to New Earth, created as byproducts of whatever it was Alex Luthor was doing to try and recreate Superboy Prime's "perfect" Earth. Mr. Mind started feeding off of the interdimensional energies between them (or something like that), which resulted in a vastly more powerful Mr. Mind and various differences popping up in the once-identical worlds. By the end of 52, Rip Hunter and Booster Gold had stopped Mr. Mind, but the "damage" to Earths was left unfixed, so now there are 53 different Earths in the Multiverse (counting New Earth).

 

[FlawlessVictory]

The new Multiverse was created in 52. It started out as 52 other Earths that were identical to New Earth, created as byproducts of whatever it was Alex Luthor was doing to try and recreate Superboy Prime's "perfect" Earth. Mr. Mind started feeding off of the interdimensional energies between them (or something like that), which resulted in a vastly more powerful Mr. Mind and various differences popping up in the once-identical worlds. By the end of 52, Rip Hunter and Booster Gold had stopped Mr. Mind, but the "damage" to Earths was left unfixed, so now there are 53 different Earths in the Multiverse (counting New Earth).

Thank you for answering.

 

[CBG]

Haha Neil Gaiman really dislikes the JLA story in volume 1.

He says it was his unsuccessful attempt of combining the DCU with Sandman.

Where did he say that?

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

As I understand it, Infinite Crisis ended with the creation of New Earth as the only Earth.

No disrespect but I dont see how you came to that conclusion.

Infinite Crisis ended with the creation of a new Muitiverse with new earth being the focal point of all 52 earths.

"TheCorpulent1" got you the right info on the rest but the 52 earths were created as a by product of Alex Luther's plans to bring back earth 2.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

No disrespect but I dont see how you came to that conclusion.

Infinite Crisis ended with the creation of a new Muitiverse with new earth being the focal point of all 52 earths.

I was reading the Infinite Crisis summary on Wiki. There is no mention of this 52 Earth Multiverse in this summary, so I thought that was how IC ended, with the idea of there being only one Earth which is New Earth. So at the end of IC, the 52 Earth Multiverse is actually mentioned?

 

[yenaled]

Where did he say that?

In the forward (or afterword) to the tpb.

 

[DawnWarrior]

I was reading the Infinite Crisis summary on Wiki. There is no mention of this 52 Earth Multiverse in this summary, so I thought that was how IC ended, with the idea of there being only one Earth which is New Earth. So at the end of IC, the 52 Earth Multiverse is actually mentioned?

No it isn't; just the one true New Earth. You're right; Infinite Crisis ended with the there apparently being a single unified Earth. At the end of the 52 series (which came a whole year later), it was revealed that the new multiverse had sprung up in the wake of the end of IC, the way Corpulent described. So your confusion makes sense.

 

[BrianWilly]

No disrespect but I dont see how you came to that conclusion.

Infinite Crisis ended with the creation of a new Muitiverse with new earth being the focal point of all 52 earths.

"TheCorpulent1" got you the right info on the rest but the 52 earths were created as a by product of Alex Luther's plans to bring back earth 2.

Well, like Corp said, none of that was revealed until the end of 52. The series "Infinite Crisis" itself ends only with the revelation of New Earth. If you only read that story, you'd have no idea that there was a multiverse again.

So it really depends on your semantics. In terms of the DCU chronology, the multiverse did indeed come back at the end of the "middle Crisis." But, technically, the Geoff Johns-written series called "Infinite Crisis" did not bring back the multiverse.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

I was reading the Infinite Crisis summary on Wiki. There is no mention of this 52 Earth Multiverse in this summary, so I thought that was how IC ended, with the idea of there being only one Earth which is New Earth. So at the end of IC, the 52 Earth Multiverse is actually mentioned?

Are you sure your reading the right page.

Here's a link to the wiki page on Infinite Crisis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Crisis

The reason I ask because the start of a new multiverse is mentioned.

Seeking to create a perfect world, Alexander restores many alternate Earths. The Earth-Two Lois dies, and an aggrieved Kal-L and the younger Superman Kal-El fight until Wonder Woman separates them.[10][11][12] Bart Allen (wearing Barry Allen's costume and aged to adulthood) emerges from the Speed Force, warning that he and the other speedsters were unable to hold Superboy-Prime, who returns wearing armor that stores yellow sun radiation to empower him.

Altho I wouldnt trust every thing you read on a Wiki page anyway.

No it isn't; just the one true New Earth. You're right; Infinite Crisis ended with the there apparently being a single unified Earth. At the end of the 52 series (which came a whole year later), it was revealed that the new multiverse had sprung up in the wake of the end of IC, the way Corpulent described. So your confusion makes sense.

Your right it wasnt mentioned.

But the birth of the new multiverse was shown.

Altho it was believe destroyed by the end on the mini.

Well, like Corp said, none of that was revealed until the end of 52. The series "Infinite Crisis" itself ends only with the revelation of New Earth. If you only read that story, you'd have no idea that there was a multiverse again.

So it really depends on your semantics. In terms of the DCU chronology, the multiverse did indeed come back at the end of the "middle Crisis." But, technically, the Geoff Johns-written series called "Infinite Crisis" did not bring back the multiverse.

Its funny you say that since it was heavily implied that the mulivers was indeed back.

Yes they made it seem like it had all folded back into new earth but I sure didnt believe that BS for a sec.

I couldnt believe that Geoff Johns, the guy whos trying to bring back the Silver Age bit by bit, would go to the trouble of bringing back a Multiverse just to destroy it again.

Either way Alex Luthers machine was at least, in part, responsible for the new multiverse creation.

 

[CBG]

In the forward (or afterword) to the tpb.

For the Deluxe Edition, I'm presuming?

 

[FlawlessVictory]

No it isn't; just the one true New Earth. You're right; Infinite Crisis ended with the there apparently being a single unified Earth. At the end of the 52 series (which came a whole year later), it was revealed that the new multiverse had sprung up in the wake of the end of IC, the way Corpulent described. So your confusion makes sense.

Well, like Corp said, none of that was revealed until the end of 52. The series "Infinite Crisis" itself ends only with the revelation of New Earth. If you only read that story, you'd have no idea that there was a multiverse again.

So it really depends on your semantics. In terms of the DCU chronology, the multiverse did indeed come back at the end of the "middle Crisis." But, technically, the Geoff Johns-written series called "Infinite Crisis" did not bring back the multiverse.

Ah, ok, that makes sense. Thanks!

Are you sure your reading the right page.

Here's a link to the wiki page on Infinite Crisis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Crisis

The reason I ask because the start of a new multiverse is mentioned

Right, with Luthor restoring multiple Earths but they end up ultimately merging into New Earth anyway. Then the revelation of the 52 other Earths is made.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Right, with Luthor restoring multiple Earths but they end up ultimately merging into New Earth anyway. Then the revelation of the 52 other Earths is made.

Right...and that revelation was that the Multiple earths that Luther restored never really merged into New Earth.

The revelation was that Luther succeed in creating a new Multiverse.

 

[BrianWilly]

True, but all those Earths were identical to each other, so for all purposes they were all just one universe.

Mr. Mind was the one who truly created the new multiverse, from consuming "events" and flapping his wings and stuff.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

True, but all those Earths were identical to each other, so for all purposes they were all just one universe.

Mr. Mind was the one who truly created the new multiverse, from consuming "events" and flapping his wings and stuff.

They were copies of new earth that may not have been different up till the point of being coppied.

But whos to say if things would have remained the same after wards.

I can make a hundred copies of one peace of paper to day but whos to say what would happen to each copy in the next 100 days.

Mr.Mind may have made the multiverse what it is today.....but he did not created it.

He reshaped it.

 

[WompuM]

Well, do you know who Superboy Prime is? He's the superboy of Earth Prime, which is essentially our Earth. One without any superheros. Here's this kid, whose name is Clark Kent. Always gets s**t from everybody because of his name (being the same as the comicbook character Superman) One day, he wakes up, and he's got Superman's powers. Well, this is the story of how that superboys life would have went had that whole Crisis thing not happened. Grows up. Has kids. all that. It's brilliant.

Ugh. I really like to think that Superman: Secret Identity does not take place on Earth Prime or anywhere in the multiverse. I like the Superboy Prime villain, but it just isnt the same man as Clark Kent.

 

[Anubis]

Yeah, I've been meaning to go back and edit that. Superman: Secret Identity really has nothing to do with Emoboy Prime. The Superman in that is just about an entirely different character and shouldn't be tainted by the mere mention of that mildly entertaining despite his emoness *****e bag.

 

[WompuM]

Precisely. Under Johns, SBP can be a lot of fun. For instance, when Lo3W comes out, I'm sure my grandchildren will really appreciate it. And by then, they'll have dust repellent paper like in Back to the Future Part II, so collecting will be even easier. Hopefully Busiek will get off his making sequels to his classics kick and stay away from Secret Identity.

You know, I'm in the library trying to procrastinate from studying, but there are two frat bras outside who wont shut the **** up. If I wasnt a giant *****, I would say something to em.

 

[Anubis]

Thinking it is just as good.

 

[Spike_x1]

Not really. Throwing something at them and running away is even better.

 

[Anubis]

Yeah, but we're talking about WompuM here! He'd probably be too drunk to get away....and then the pounding would begin. Plus, they're frat guys. They'll probably rape him to boot.