The Official "I Loved Raimi's Spider-Man' Thread - Part 1 of 99 Luft - Part 10

[Andrew Lucas]

Ah, no.

The line "it's my birthday, tIME TO LIGHT MY CANDLESS!!1111!"

is way more cheesy than anything in Raimi's trilogy...and not in a good way.

SM1 has the crown.

Love that movie though, it's my favorite from the past trilogy, Tobey was at his best.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

I love how Raimi always did a little visual introduction for the villains:

Out, Am I?

Peter Parker....and the girlfriend!

You knew this was comming Pete!

Aghhhhhhhh!

Hey Parker!

 

[The Joker]

^ Now that's how you do Spider-Man villains.

 

[Young Superman]

Doc Ock, was awesome in Spider-Man 2. It's going to be hard to recast the character.

BTW Does anyone still prefer the organic webbing over the mechanical web shooters in live action>

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Ehhhh organics never bothered me....and yeah, Raimi's villain intros were fantastic.

 

[OriginalMiles]

Those entrances are awesome! Raimi's villains are just awesome.

 

[The Joker]

Miles, where's your avatar from?

BTW Does anyone still prefer the organic webbing over the mechanical web shooters in live action

I don't think there's much of a difference. They both do the same thing except one is mechanical and the other is organic. I think the main reason to have mechanical ones is so Spidey can run out of webbing mid battle and create a sense of urgency that he has to refill the cartridges.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I'll take either mechanical or organic. I never understood the fuss Spidey fans made about that.

Plus, it worked well for Raimi in Spider-Man 2 when the organic shooters wouldn't work for Peter due to some kind of mental block.

Still can't believe that movie is TEN years old by the way.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Miles, where's your avatar from?

Leaked test footage for the Deadpool movie...that needs to be made.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I don't think there's much of a difference. They both do the same thing except one is mechanical and the other is organic. I think the main reason to have mechanical ones is so Spidey can run out of webbing mid battle and create a sense of urgency that he has to refill the cartridges.

Which they have yet to do...lol

 

[Spider-knight]

i love the raimi trilogy but tobey was a terrible peter and a meh spiderman, some of the characters like betty, flash, robbie, the neighbor girl, john jameson, gwen, george, never had any characters. they felt like they were just there because they were in the comics.

tobey never evolved much into a person. he reminds me of an even worse version of crispin glover.

the city never felt that much alive. so of the civilians felt very off to me.

i thought topher grace's character could've been done better and i did believe topher would've pulled it off but at the end the character was incredibly wasted.

the whole harry amnesia sub plot felt forced to me and mj breaking up with peter in the 3rd film was stupid.

some of the dialogue in the first movie felt very cheesy especially the ending speech mj gave. that line really ruined the emotion for me.

so all in all SM1-7/10

SM2-9.8/10

SM3-5.3/10

 

[Leenie]

Ah, the old "organic vs. mechanical" webshooters debate.

Personally, I was open to the organic webshooters from a story-telling perspective. Raimi's films focused on the hard-luck Peter Parker, who is working to make end's meat, and who doesn't come from wealth. It would make sense for him to just have the organic webshooting powers instead of showing him build the webshooters and have the audience guessing how he was able to afford that equipment in the first place. The organic webshooters, in my opinion, aren't this monstrosity that fanboys have made it out to be, as I am more of a "big picture" kind of gal. The Raimi films contained quite a bit of dialogue that showed off Peter's scientific knowledge anyway (Spider-Man 2 being a prime example, with Peter seeing a flaw in Otto Octavius' project).

That said, I don't mind mechanical webshooters, either (because they are comic book accurate; it wouldn't make sense for Spidey fans to hate on the idea of using them). In the Amazing Spider-Man movies, there are some things they did right with them, and some things they did wrong. For example, in TASM2, the whole dilemma that Spidey has with the webshooters against Electro was actually a really cool idea ... But it was also really lame that Peter (a supposed super genius in science) needed Gwen to remind him of 8th grade science, and that he was relying on freakin' YouTube videos in attempt to figure the science stuff out. Also, in TASM1, I hate that Peter may or may not have stolen the equipment from Oscorp for the webshooters? If he bought them, then he technically didn't really make them himself ... And if he bought them legally, then who the hell sells that kind of stuff?! Wouldn't it be easy to find out he's Spider-Man in that case (not that TASM Peter would care about that stuff because of his enthusiasm for using label makers on cameras, or throwing footballs to dent poles)? Messy, messy writing.

All in all, I think the whole "organic vs. mechanical" debate is old. I like both, given that they are done right.

 

[Young Superman]

Agreed

 

[Human Torch]

Whenever someone throws this complaint on dialogue I simply imagine eating cheesy nachos
What the heck does cheesy even mean? Whenever I see it on the internet it's just someone saying "I don't like that bit". Is that what it's supposed to mean?

Yeah.Frankly I'm a little sick of hearing the SM movies being referred to as "cheesy".

I love Goblin's "We'll meet again,Spider-Mannnnnn!!!!"

 

[OriginalMiles]

Miles, where's your avatar from?

It was from the Deadpool footage!

I don't think there's much of a difference. They both do the same thing except one is mechanical and the other is organic. I think the main reason to have mechanical ones is so Spidey can run out of webbing mid battle and create a sense of urgency that he has to refill the cartridges.

 

[Lantern Venom]

I love how Raimi always did a little visual introduction for the villains:

Out, Am I?

Peter Parker....and the girlfriend!

You knew this was comming Pete!

Aghhhhhhhh!

Hey Parker!

The first four are awesome. The last one, however, is like shaving one's nether regions with a dull blade. Topher's suckitude gains strength over time.

Yeah.Frankly I'm a little sick of hearing the SM movies being referred to as "cheesy".

I love Goblin's "We'll meet again,Spider-Mannnnnn!!!!"

I'm rewatching them now with my daughter. As a whole, they hold up quite well, effects included. I noticed a new Blu-ray 3 pack at Target. Anyone know if there are new special features on that?

 

[Doc Ock]

The Raimi films were really Stan Lee's vision come to life! Well, pretty close to it anyways. I never noticed the awesome similarity in the villain's introduction.

I'm rewatching them now with my daughter. As a whole, they hold up quite well, effects included. I noticed a new Blu-ray 3 pack at Target. Anyone know if there are new special features on that?

No new special features, just digital copies. I got it and its nice but the disks are very difficult to get out its stupid.

 

[Venus]

Epicccc

 

[Lantern Venom]

The Raimi films were really Stan Lee's vision come to life! Well, pretty close to it anyways. I never noticed the awesome similarity in the villain's introduction.



No new special features, just digital copies. I got it and its nice but the disks are very difficult to get out its stupid.

Hmm...I might pass on those. I was hoping for some new interviews at least.

 

[FrozenBanana00]

I grew up with these movies and totally loved them. I was a huge Spider-Man fan back in the day. It's just funny going back and watching them now, realizing how cringy some parts were. Still love them though! I just got annoyed with SM3 where Brock kept talking and the Venom face peeled back like every two seconds. I wanted to see move Venom, not Brock.

 

[Lantern Venom]

I grew up with these movies and totally loved them. I was a huge Spider-Man fan back in the day. It's just funny going back and watching them now, realizing how cringy some parts were. Still love them though! I just got annoyed with SM3 where Brock kept talking and the Venom face peeled back like every two seconds. I wanted to see move Venom, not Brock.

That was irksome indeed, and it was a problem for Spidey, too. He unmasked constantly, and for stupid reasons at times. The Webb movies aren't innocent of this problem either. It likely comes down to directors being uncomfortable with their stars having their faces covered, especially during a conversation.

 

[Nardz937]

That was irksome indeed, and it was a problem for Spidey, too. He unmasked constantly, and for stupid reasons at times. The Webb movies aren't innocent of this problem either. It likely comes down to directors being uncomfortable with their stars having their faces covered, especially during a conversation.

It was the worst in ASM 1. And about 4 characters found out his identity in the first movie alone. Pissed me off so much.

 

[FrozenBanana00]

It just bugged the heck out of me. In the comics and cartoon Venom doesn't always peel back like every second. He can go a full battle or comic without showing his face. But you have a point, they hired the actor to play the character so, they would need more face time. It just felt that even though we waited ages for Venom, we never actually got him. Like, you never actually see full Venom. It was just like Brock in a costume.


And yeah! Loved how everyone knows who he is now. Maybe he's following Tony's lead and just going "Screw it!" xD

 

[Andrew Lucas]

It was the worst in ASM 1. And about 4 characters found out his identity in the first movie alone. Pissed me off so much.

I just remember Gwen and Connor's.

Are you talking about Fiers and Aunt May?

 

[Lantern Venom]

I've really liked all the Spidey movies, both Raimi and Webb, but Peter has done a craptacular job of concealing his identity in them. The fact that in both incarnations, Peter webslings without his costume (you know, as we all do at some point in the day) because evidently no one in New York has a cell phone where they can snap a photo or take a video.