The Official "I Loved Raimi's Spider-Man' Thread - Part 1 of 99 Luft - - - Part 12

[AnneFan]

A desperate combination of needing anything better than those Amazing movies and refusing to acknowledge a MARVEL product as something less than stellar.

Without Keaton and Holland, it doesn't amount to much at all.

I actually prefer Amazing, didn't want a new movie to wash any kind of taste I had with those, which is mostly pleasant.

I actually prefer Amazing as well.

Bravo. I agree with all of this.

 

[Leenie]

I really liked Spider-Man: Homecoming, especially when I saw it the second time. I definitely found myself enjoying it a lot more on my second viewing. And, for me personally, give me this film over any of the Amazing Spider-Man movies anyday.

THAT SAID, though, does Homecoming reach the heights of the first two Raimi films? For me, it didn't. That's a tough thing to accomplish in my book, though, so I never had the expectation that it would be as good. I never went into Spider-Man: Homecoming expecting the greatest movie ever. I just wanted a Spider-Man movie that was better than Spider-Man 3 ... And I most definitely got that.

In my personal opinion, it's like "The Simpsons Already Did It" episode from South Park. I think we got a perfect Spider-Man origin from Raimi; it's solidified in pop culture at this point. And don't even get me started on how incredible Spider-Man 2 is. Any future Spider-Man movie has Spider-Man 2 to live up to. I don't think I will ever see an action sequence in a Spidey movie as riveting as the train fight in Spider-Man 2. And if the MCU does decide to cast someone as JJJ, we all know he won't be as good as J.K. Simmons. Or how about Aunt May? Rosemary Harris was perfection; that's probably why they decided to go for "younger and hot" Aunt May in the MCU. They can't replicate what Rosemary Harris was in the Raimi movies. "The Raimi movies already did it."

That said, there's a few things that Homecoming did that felt fresh to me ... More fresh than the TASM movies ever did. It also helps that I actually LIKE Tom Holland's Peter Parker/Spider-Man. A good lead character is pretty important to me, especially after I detested Andrew Garfield's Peter/Spidey (again, just my opinion). Do I think that Homecoming could have taken more risks? Absolutely. I hope that there are bigger consequences to the series of events that happen in the sequel(s). And I hope that the MCU actually mentions Uncle Ben at some point, as it would be a huge disservice to the Spider-Man character to not at least reference his importance. At the same time, though, I was happy with a Spider-Man movie that had levity to it. Even though the story was simple, it was actually refreshing to see Spider-Man doing something in a movie that he has always done in the comics: Stopping petty thieves. No doomsday device, no "end of the world" situation ... The movie was essentially about Spider-Man stopping someone who was stealing stuff (and it helped that the movie made Vulture a good villain with a good actor). And I liked that a lot.

 

[Nardz937]

I've started reading The Amazing Spider-Man from the beginning recently. I'm on issue 19 right now and It's making me appreciate and love the Raimi movies more now than I even did before.

They nailed what made Peter sympathetic and relatable. The everyday man. The duality of both Peter and Spider-Man. Why he does what he does, why he continues doing it, why he ends up quitting, why he returns, the consequences of it.

The heart, essence, spirit and themes of the character. Raimi just got it

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I've started reading The Amazing Spider-Man from the beginning recently. I'm on issue 19 right now and It's making me appreciate and love the Raimi movies more now than I even did before.

They nailed what made Peter sympathetic and relatable. The everyday man. The duality of both Peter and Spider-Man. Why he does what he does, why he continues doing it, why he ends up quitting, why he returns, the consequences of it.

The heart, essence, spirit and themes of the character. Raimi just got it

Couldn't agree more

 

[marvelrobbins]

A desperate combination of needing anything better than those Amazing movies and refusing to acknowledge a MARVEL product as something less than stellar.

Without Keaton and Holland, it doesn't amount to much at all.

Keaton single hardly saved homeocming to being watchable.fact i am long time spider man fan is why i didn't like homecoming.I like the first amazing spider-man greatly but homecoming shouldn't even be compard to films like spider-man 1 and 2 which not 100% perfect was spider-man to me instead of crap that was homecoming.al this praise for homecoming is like really.

while holland looks like teenager i didn't like mcu parker at all.i liked civil war but i wasn't wowed there though spider-man in icivil war is better than homecoming.the stark/parker scene is actully better peter than we got in homecoming.Marguire's version is clser to one i know.garfield had a few things missing.

much of appeal in man out of mask was gone.

homecoming forced me to apprecate spider-man 3 and amazing spider-man 2 more

 

[Spider-Aziz]

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Trashman picked suit off the trash, and Jonah Jameson wears it without washing it.

 

[Kane52630]

http://kane52630.tumblr.com/post/165439220039/spider-man-2-2004

 

[Broseph44]

Beautiful

 

[The Shape]

Never liked when close-up shots/moments like that were needlessly CGI.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Those are awesome as always Kane

 

[Leenie]

http://kane52630.tumblr.com/post/165439220039/spider-man-2-2004

Iconic.

(The suit from the Raimi movies is still my favorite Spidey suit, too. It's so classic.)

 

[Arachnerd]

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Trashman picked suit off the trash, and Jonah Jameson wears it without washing it.

Deep down, we all know he's a Spider-Man fanboy.

 

[NotNickFury]

Well, an opportunity may have presented itself. While I missed out on the original Spider-Man trilogy box-set on Blu Ray, there's this other, similar box set I saw at my Best Buy. Anyone own this Limited Edition Collection of the first three Raimi films? It seems so similar to the other one, with Spider Man 1, 2.1 and some Editor's Cut of Spider-Man 3. There were a few copies left, so I may pick it up, though it seems like it's the same as the Trilogy box-set.

 

[Nardz937]

Well, an opportunity may have presented itself. While I missed out on the original Spider-Man trilogy box-set on Blu Ray, there's this other, similar box set I saw at my Best Buy. Anyone own this Limited Edition Collection of the first three Raimi films? It seems so similar to the other one, with Spider Man 1, 2.1 and some Editor's Cut of Spider-Man 3. There were a few copies left, so I may pick it up, though it seems like it's the same as the Trilogy box-set.

I picked it up on the day it came out a few months ago for the same reason you did. I hadn't yet owned the original trilogy on blu-ray.

I don't know what the original set included, but I'm happy with the limited edition version. It has 1, 2, 2.1, 3 and it's 3's Editor's Cut. The discs are presented in a book with sleeves and it has beautiful stills from the movies and a written "making-of" for each movie in it.

Go for it

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Deep down, we all know he's a Spider-Man fanboy.

In an episode about a clone of Spider-Man from the 70s Spider-Man TV series J. Jonah Jameson dressed as Spider-Man in a costume ball, you know he's the biggest fan.

And J.K. was mad Spidey stole his suit in this movie, it all adds up.

 

[Arachnerd]

Jonah was the first tsundere character confirmed.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

You're not wrong.

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[Lantern Venom]

Deep down, we all know he's a Spider-Man fanboy.

In an episode about a clone of Spider-Man from the 70s Spider-Man TV series J. Jonah Jameson dressed as Spider-Man in a costume ball, you know he's the biggest fan.

And J.K. was mad Spidey stole his suit in this movie, it all adds up.

You're not wrong.

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I've gained even more appreciation for Raimi's output after seeing some of the recent translations of Spidey to the silver & small screens. I was as excited as anyone to see Spider-man in Civil War and Homecoming, but those came pre-packaged with the MCU flavoring. I miss seeing some of the classic comic themes played out in animation and live action.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I've gained even more appreciation for Raimi's output after seeing some of the recent translations of Spidey to the silver & small screens. I was as excited as anyone to see Spider-man in Civil War and Homecoming, but those came pre-packaged with the MCU flavoring. I miss seeing some of the classic comic themes played out in animation and live action.

Many of us in this thread feel the same way.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

The 4K UHD Trilogy boxset is being released on October 17. I'm personally thinking of getting the regular american blu-ray set as the UK one pairs them with the Amazing movies.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Then I'll buy the UK bundle if I choose to buy the 4k edition.

 

[NotNickFury]

Finally purchased the Limited Edition Collection that has the Blu Ray of Spider Man 1-3, as well as 2.1 and this Editor's Cut of Spider Man 3.

But then irony hit. As I'm leaving the store, I see the exact same box set, as well as this legacy collection containing the Raimi and Webb films, but in 4K. Strange. By the time slowpokes like me eventually upgrade to 4K, the next iteration will probably be out. 10K or something like that. But whatever, I'm not picky. I'm sure Blu Ray quality Raimi films will suffice.

 

[Arachnerd]

You're not wrong.

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A part of me hopes that, if the MCU does get to J. Jonah Jameson, that they add this kind of depth to him, sorta like how Spectacular Spider-Man did.

I love J.K. Simmons as Jonah, but something a bit different would be nice.

 

[WarriorDreamer]

Wait... theres an extended version of Spider Man 3?

 

[Nardz937]

Wait... theres an extended version of Spider Man 3?

There's an alternate version of the movie that was released in June called Spider-Man 3: Editor's Cut.

It's actually shorter than the original film, it removes some scenes and replaces them with new ones. It's not better or worse than the original cut, in my opinion.