The Official "I Loved Raimi's Spider-Man' Thread - Part 1 of 99 Luft - - Part 11

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I'd also include the retcon of Uncle Ben's death involving Sandman as being one of the more unpopular elements.

I can't help but feel I'm the only person who warmed up to that idea. Didn't like it back in the day. But then I just kinda changed.
 
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I wish they didn't spoil the Sandman twist in the trailers. Kind of ruined the point of having it in the movie in the first place.
 
As a kid I always thought Spider-Man could actually shoot webs so when I started watching the 90s show I was like "WTF" lol So I've always prefered the organic webs.

I think web shooters are fine as long as they are adressed in their story instead of being just cheap fan service.

Me too.
 
Crazy thing with me is I grew up with both mechanical and organic and one day organics won out. That ever happen with anyone else?
 
I like them both. I can see why most people prefer mechs. There is more tech variety there for Peter to tinker around with, making different kinds of webbing etc. But the whole running out of webbing in battle is not something I ever really got a big kick out of. Spidey's got super powers. He can still kick ass even without webbing.
 
Raimi already found a way to do the 'running out of webbing' trope in Spidey 2 anyways.
 
True. Even in the 90's cartoon or TSSM, running out of webbing never made the battles more exciting.
 
I like them both. I can see why most people prefer mechs. There is more tech variety there for Peter to tinker around with, making different kinds of webbing etc. But the whole running out of webbing in battle is not something I ever really got a big kick out of. Spidey's got super powers. He can still kick ass even without webbing.

I'd like to get back to that, I always feel like a bad for preferring organics. :cmad:

So, I've been searching like mad for the old Marvel Legends Sandman BAF series made after the main toyline was poorly received. I am beyond out of luck finding them for good prices. I've loooooonged missed the chance now. Damn it.
 
I remember my roommate found out that Spider-Man is supposed to have mechanical webshooters after the 2012 reboot and said he hated Spider-Man after that. He argued that, without organic webbing, he's not really all that much like a spider. Hearing that made my head hurt and my ears bleed.
 
I remember my roommate found out that Spider-Man is supposed to have mechanical webshooters after the 2012 reboot and said he hated Spider-Man after that. He argued that, without organic webbing, he's not really all that much like a spider. Hearing that made my head hurt and my ears bleed.

Sounds like he became disillusioned.

True. Even in the 90's cartoon or TSSM, running out of webbing never made the battles more exciting.

A member over in the 2017 organics thread went on to say that having mechanicals and being able to change and make web formulas and what not, was more of an advantage than disadvantage, like most tend to belief. I've never really thought about it like that till then.
 
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I didn't mind the organic webshooters at all. From a storytelling perspective, it helps the movie "get to the point" faster having organic webshooters instead of spending 5-10 minutes showing Peter Parker build them. It allows the audience to see Spider-Man faster, I would say. I was fine with it.

Plus, the organic webshooters definitely make more sense for the vision that Raimi had. While Peter Parker being able to build webshooters makes sense to present his scientific prowess, it doesn't make sense for him to be able to afford that equipment. The Raimi movies consistently emphasized that the Parkers go through financial struggles. So yes, organic webshooters make more sense in this case.

Also, the Raimi movies did show that Peter was a very bright guy when it came to science. Lots of dialogue in the first Spider-Man movie told the audience that, and he was the one who doubted Dr. Octavius' work in Spider-Man 2 (a major plot point in that film). Turns out those movies didn't need the mechanical webshooters to show that Peter was smart.

That said, I don't mind mechanical webshooters either (after all, they ARE true to the comics; how can I call myself a Spidey fan and hate them?). In fact, I was pretty excited to see how they would be done in the TASM movies prior to seeing them. My huge HUGE problem with them in those movies, though, is that they don't display Peter's brilliance at all. In fact, they display how little Peter actually knows. In TASM1, he barely makes them himself (and pretty much steals the equipment), and in TASM2 Gwen solved all of the issues with the webshooters against Electro while Peter had no clue (he had to look at YouTube videos to explain 8th grade science to him and he STILL couldn't figure it out).
 
I know I definitely don't "hate" mechanicals. But the button that made me like it or just not care was turned off somehow. But hate? No, that's foolish, respect and seniority are what I give it. That make sense to anyone?
 
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I knew about the mechanical webshooters from reading Essentials with the original 60s runs, reading Ultimate Spider-Man in its real early days, and 90s cartoon reruns before the 1st movie came out. I was young and absorbing it all in, and I thought the organics was a harmless change tbh. Peter was still a smart kid, it didn't devalue his intelligence by not having him make the webshooters.

Found this neat promo Sony snowglobe from SM3 on eBay. I know there was one from SM2 I've seen before, think it's like the last shot from the 1st movie.

$_57.JPG

Only $200! http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPIDER-MAN-3-STUDIO-PROMOTIONAL-2007-WATER-BALL-SNOW-GLOBE-SUPER-RARE-/231205401605?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35d4ea7405
 
So at the school I work at, I see this one kid with a Spider-Man 3 backpack.
 
I started re-watching the trilogy (just saw SM2 tonight), and it still holds up really well IMO. While the TASM movies have a few details that they get really right, as well as better effects (because they're newer), I think what really makes the Raimi movies better for me, is the filmmaking. Sam Raimi is IMO up there among the 25 best directors out there, and he really knows how to put together a great movie. His movies have a lot of memorable parts that the TASM movies lacked. Best example would be Uncle Ben and how they handled that. In SM1 when he dies (after the powerful speech earlier), with Peter sad, angry, suiting up to the music of Danny Elfman, that's just great filmmaking. When the same event happened in TASM, it wasn't nowhere near as powerful. Webb is an OK director, but Raimi is a great one, and that's the main difference for me.

Even SM3 which gets a lot of hate, still has a lot of great filmmaking. You could tell Raimi wasn't happy about Venom, and some of the "Peter gone EMO" scenes felt like Raimi flipping the finger to the producers. In retrospect it could have been better, but it still has good filmmaking in it. The birth of Sandman was really memorable, and I liked the switch-a-roo with Peter finally catching a break, and the tables turning with MJ experiencing tough times.

Also, as much unpopular as it probably is, I love Kirsten Dunst. She doesn't get to display much in the SM movies, and her role is pretty much limited to being saved, but she is one of my biggest movie crushes.
 
So at the school I work at, I see this one kid with a Spider-Man 3 backpack.
It might just be something generally Spidey related his mommy bought for him, rather then it being the result of him being a fan of the flick, unfortunately.
 
It might just be something generally Spidey related his mommy bought for him, rather then it being the result of him being a fan of the flick, unfortunately.

You're probably right - it's rare to find kids who like the OT better. I actually have a cousin that's 12 and he does, but most younger folks lean towards the TASM movies/merchandise.
 
It might just be something generally Spidey related his mommy bought for him, rather then it being the result of him being a fan of the flick, unfortunately.

I'm not saying the kid is a fan of that movie individually. Probably a hand-me-down, or something. I see other kids with Ultimate Spider-Man and Amazing Spider-Man stuff though. I could ask him lol, I see him every morning.
 
Brolly, I love your avatar. That game is still my favorite Spider-Man game, along with Spider-Man 2 on the PS2.
 
Brolly, I love your avatar. That game is still my favorite Spider-Man game, along with Spider-Man 2 on the PS2.
That PS1 Spider-Man game is so nostalgic for me. I also like the sequel a lot as well (Enter Electro).
 
[YT]http://youtu.be/_QVjG6V1yqc[/YT]

I've decided this is my favourite "Tobey the loveable goofball" scene from spiderman 2.
 
Brolly, I love your avatar. That game is still my favorite Spider-Man game, along with Spider-Man 2 on the PS2.

Why thank you. :)

I too have a lot of fond memories of that game. It was one of the many hype fuel items I used back in 7th grade to pass the time for the movie.

Speaking of which, I recently rewatched the first teaser trailer for the first Spider-Man movie. Does anyone else still get chills? I do, every time I watch it, I get thrown right back into the movie theater when I first saw it.

August 2001, Jurassic Park III. Me, my brother, and my dad. All 3 of us in total shock. I even remember my dad's reaction when the helicopter was being pulled back, by then he knew.

He just said "oh my goooood..."

One of my top memories with the old man and Spidey. Won't ever forget it.:yay:
 
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Brolly, you are bringing tears to my eyes. Okay, not really, but I feel like I want to cry. This is taking me back to when I was a small kid watching all the trailers and TV spots before the Spider-Man movie came out. Is it sad that the first Spider-Man movie is one of the best childhood memories that I've ever had?
 
Brolly, you are bringing tears to my eyes. Okay, not really, but I feel like I want to cry. This is taking me back to when I was a small kid watching all the trailers and TV spots before the Spider-Man movie came out. Is it sad that the first Spider-Man movie is one of the best childhood memories that I've ever had?

Not at all man, 2001 to 2002 will always be written in stone upon my brain. 7th grade was a rough year for me, school didnt go easy on me and I was picked on a lot, primarily for being into Spider-Man. But it doesn't matter, Spider-Man gave me a lot of great memories, that's what matters.

The ironic thing is, I was picked on day every day for being into Spider-Man and kids would always tease me saying it would suck, and then once the movie came out, all people said to me and each other that following Monday was "did you see spider-man? Oh man it was so cool!"

Guess I had the last laugh. :D
 
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