The Official "I Loved Raimi's Spider-Man' Thread - Part 1 of 99 Luft - - Part 11

[The Joker]

PeterBenParker, don't be silly. Put yourself in what spot? Possibly lose a debate? Stand by what you said and elaborate on it please. You said no doubt Jake would have been better. No doubt means it's a fact. If it's a fact then it's easy to prove. So there should be no argument. You can't argue against a fact because it's a fact. Unless of course there is doubt, and what you were saying was merely an opinion. Which we all know that's exactly what you said. An opinion.

 

[titansupes]

Spider-Man 2 came out 11 years ago today, last year I did this just for fun and because it was 10 years and I really enjoy the movie still. I feel like it's a special one, so cheers to Spidey 2.

This drawing needs more love, it's great.

 

[AnneFan]

I love this trilogy, and I'm sure it's always going to be my high watermark for the character on screen. I'll see the re-reboot, but the hunger just isn't there at the moment. I'm sure it will return at some point.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I love this trilogy, and I'm sure it's always going to be my high watermark for the character on screen. I'll see the re-reboot, but the hunger just isn't there at the moment. I'm sure it will return at some point.

I am the same, still love the Raimi movies but just can't excited about another re-boot at the moment.

 

[The Joker]

I'm excited enough right now because Marvel is involved. But I am feeling a little burned out after having just had two movies from a reboot in the last 3 years, and not very good ones at that.

But I don't think any Spidey movie will get my excitement levels as high as Raimi's did.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

I think Tom Holland is the perfect choice for the role and so far he is the only thing that has me excited for the movie, the director and writers have yet to prove themselves so that's where my biggest concerns come from.

I really hope the movie turns out to be great but considering how unlikely that seems, it makes the first 2 Raimi movies even more impressive than they already are.

 

[LizardMan07]

Spider-Man 1 should probably be the yardstick.

Can't see spider-man 2 being topped in terms of Rotten Tomato scores.

It's still getting fresh reviews, even as of last month, it's crazy.

 

[Leenie]

I'm not expecting the MCU Spider-Man to "top" the first two Raimi movies. I think that would be setting my expectations far too high; only setting myself up for disappointment if I do that.

I want the MCU Spidey to be, at the very least, slightly better than Spider-Man 3. As I've said a million times before over the past 8 years, I don't hate Spider-Man 3 ... But it was still a disappointing movie (for obvious reasons that people have stated over and over again).

It's kind of like the new Star Wars film: I'm not expecting it to come close to topping the Original Trilogy, but I'm expecting it to AT LEAST be better than Episodes I & II (which should be easy, right?).

I'm trying to go for "realistic" expectations when it comes to hyped movies like these. [BLACKOUT]I'd be laying if I said I didn't grin from ear to ear when Spidey was quickly referenced in the dialogue at the very end of Ant-Man, though. [/BLACKOUT]

 

[Nardz937]

Did Sony delete the official Spider-Man 1, 2 and 3 pages on Facebook? What the hell is that about?

 

[LizardMan07]

I know at the time people said it indicated a deal might have happened, a few days later, deal was announced.

I assume it indeed does have something to do with the Marvel/Sony Partnership

 

[Bruce Malone]

Is there any part of you that kinda wishes Toby was somehow brought into the MCU instead of the reboot thing they're going for?

There was a period where he was as associated with the character of Spider-Man as Jackman was with Wolverine and RDJ with Iron Man.

I know he'd be relatively old for a spider-man but man I think it would have been epic. Imagine Spidey taking his mask off in Civil War and seeing it was Toby. Instead it's going to be a young unknown for most of the audiences, assuming they have that scene.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Yeah that would have been awesome in my opinion but since they're planning a long term franchise it wouldn't work because the most iconic villains were already used and killed.

 

[Nardz937]

Is there any part of you that kinda wishes Toby was somehow brought into the MCU instead of the reboot thing they're going for?

Yes, because.

1. Tobey is the best Peter Parker/Spider-Man.

2. I'm absolutely sick of high school/teenage Peter Parker. Give us something new. A mature/adult Peter/Spider-Man.

 

[Leenie]

Is there any part of you that kinda wishes Toby was somehow brought into the MCU instead of the reboot thing they're going for?

There was a period where he was as associated with the character of Spider-Man as Jackman was with Wolverine and RDJ with Iron Man.

I know he'd be relatively old for a spider-man but man I think it would have been epic. Imagine Spidey taking his mask off in Civil War and seeing it was Toby. Instead it's going to be a young unknown for most of the audiences, assuming they have that scene.

Yes, if the MCU had started earlier (while Raimi's Spider-Man movies were coming out). Watching RDJ's Tony Stark make fun of Tobey Maguire's Peter Parker would have been amazing to see.

A part of me would love to see an older Spider-Man/Peter Parker in the MCU, but if they had to press the reset button, then I'm glad they're starting him in high school again. That's because (a) it's important for the character to become Spider-Man while he's a teenager, and (b) if Spider-Man were older and if he had been a hero for years prior to joining the Avengers, then where in the heck was he during the battle of New York in the first Avengers movie? Starting Spidey at an older age creates a few plotholes in the MCU, and I think it kind of messes with the timeline.

Also, Spidey starting young creates more variety in the MCU. All of the heroes are adults, so it might be refreshing to have a kid in the mix.

 

[Batsfan1]

Yes, if the MCU had started earlier (while Raimi's Spider-Man movies were coming out). Watching RDJ's Tony Stark make fun of Tobey Maguire's Peter Parker would have been amazing to see.

A part of me would love to see an older Spider-Man/Peter Parker in the MCU, but if they had to press the reset button, then I'm glad they're starting him in high school again. That's because (a) it's important for the character to become Spider-Man while he's a teenager, and (b) if Spider-Man were older and if he had been a hero for years prior to joining the Avengers, then where in the heck was he during the battle of New York in the first Avengers movie? Starting Spidey at an older age creates a few plotholes in the MCU, and I think it kind of messes with the timeline.

Also, Spidey starting young creates more variety in the MCU. All of the heroes are adults, so it might be refreshing to have a kid in the mix.

If he was already Spider-Man he would be fighting the aliens in an another part of the city probably.

 

[OcStat]

There were no aliens in other parts of the city, the Avengers strategy was to keep them contained to the immediate area.

Spider-Man starting as a high school student is what set him apart when he was created, and it is what sets him apart from the rest of the heroes in the MCU.

 

[Slade W]

The first two films were good and I enjoyed them. The third film was really silly. The first 3/4 of the film are really bad and "evil" Peter is awkward to watch. The ending to the film is ok though but it is not enough to save the film IMO. Overall it is still an enjoyable trilogy IMO but it is a pity they messed up the third film so badly.

 

[Slade W]

To add to my last post, I would have liked to have seen Raimi make more movies and to have seen more of his universe rather than a reboot. He messed up Venom badly though and he is one of my favourite characters.

 

[Lantern Venom]

To add to my last post, I would have liked to have seen Raimi make more movies and to have seen more of his universe rather than a reboot. He messed up Venom badly though and he is one of my favourite characters.

Agreed on all points. SM3's end scene was rushed and there were numerous unanswered questions without at least one more film to cap off the story. That wasn't what Raimi wanted and it certainly wasn't what fans wanted, even those of us who were OK with the eventual reboot.

Also, be prepared for the Silver Age purists to flame you for being a Venom fan. t:

 

[Batsfan1]

Agreed on all points. SM3's end scene was rushed and there were numerous unanswered questions without at least one more film to cap off the story. That wasn't what Raimi wanted and it certainly wasn't what fans wanted, even those of us who were OK with the eventual reboot.

Also, be prepared for the Silver Age purists to flame you for being a Venom fan. t:

Flame? Why? You're allowed to whatever you like, but I think comic Venom is vastly over rated, so I think Raimi improved on the character in most things with the exception of the roar. I'm not really sure what was left unanswered really. There was certainly a rushed-esque aspect to the film, but not by a great deal too much.

 

[Batsfan1]

There were no aliens in other parts of the city, the Avengers strategy was to keep them contained to the immediate area.

Spider-Man starting as a high school student is what set him apart when he was created, and it is what sets him apart from the rest of the heroes in the MCU.

That doesn't necessarily mean that he would be where he would interact with the Avengers.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Flame? Why? You're allowed to whatever you like, but I think comic Venom is vastly over rated, so I think Raimi improved on the character in most things with the exception of the roar. I'm not really sure what was left unanswered really. There was certainly a rushed-esque aspect to the film, but not by a great deal too much.

Agreed on Venom. Despite Raimi's dislike for the character, he actually made improvements to the comic version.

I know it wasn't you, but I wouldn't say the film was rushed so much as it was overstuffed.

 

[The Joker]

Flame? Why? You're allowed to whatever you like, but I think comic Venom is vastly over rated, so I think Raimi improved on the character in most things with the exception of the roar. I'm not really sure what was left unanswered really. There was certainly a rushed-esque aspect to the film, but not by a great deal too much.

I like you t:

 

[Batsfan1]

Agreed on Venom. Despite Raimi's dislike for the character, he actually made improvements to the comic version.

I know it wasn't you, but I wouldn't say the film was rushed so much as it was overstuffed.

It's something strange for me because I actually liked Venom as a villain from the animated series, and I think Raimi even took a few nods from that, but when I found out his origin from the comics I thought, 'Really?' I mean, it's not that far fetched that someone would place blame on Spider-Man for something that wasn't really his fault, but the character is supposed to be sympathetic in the comics as I understand it and placing active blame on a superhero because you got discredited because they caught the actual bad guy that you failed to figure out and that guy being caught saved peoples lives, it kinda dehumanizes Eddie. Now to be fair Raimi didn't really give Eddie a ton of humanity either, but he wasn't trying to, which you can fault certainly, but is it really that big a deal?

 

[Batsfan1]

I like you t:

Thank you.