The Official "I Loved Raimi's Spider-Man' Thread - Part 1 of 99 Luft - - Part 11

[Goshdarn Batman]

Cool story, Kurt

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Raimi's Spider-Man films still very best of Spider-Man films. Raimi understood characters and how to make great stories and drama. His action scenes are the best.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Caught Spider-Man on TBS the other day and it's still a pretty solid film. Miss those days here on SHH leading up to Spider-Man 3. Probably the best time I ever had on here.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Something I noticed recently is that the action in the trilogy always felt like it was pushing visual effects forward, that's why I think the action in the trilogy is probably the best in the genre with The Avengers and TWS being on the same level. It makes me think of what Raimi would be able to do now that everything is possible with visual effects.

 

[Leenie]

Something I noticed recently is that the action in the trilogy always felt like it was pushing visual effects forward, that's why I think the action in the trilogy is probably the best in the genre with The Avengers and TWS being on the same level. It makes me think of what Raimi would be able to do now that everything is possible with visual effects.

In my opinion, I've yet to see an action scene in a comic book movie that has been as good as the train fight in Spider-Man 2.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on other comic book films. I've seen some great action scenes in comic book movies since Spider-Man 2 (like The Avengers, TWS, TDK, Iron Man, and Kick-Ass, to name a few) ... I just feel that the train fight is the best superhero action scene I've seen on the big screen so far.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Yeah I agree, I enjoy the action in other superhero movies but when I watch either of the Raimi films I just feel like its on a league of its own. Even with the budget and technology limitations of the first film he still managed to create intense, creative and entertaining action sequences, the action in the second film was fantatic as well and like you said the train scene is probably the best action scene in the genre. Even Spider-Man 3 had great action, that first fight between Peter and Harry is still my 2nd favorite action scene in the trilogy.

 

[The Joker]

Spider-Man 2 was the one where Raimi really showed his abilities in the action department. I mean the action in SM-1 is good enough but lacking a real wow factor. It didn't knock people's socks off like SM-2's did. It's not surprising SM-2 won the Oscar for visual fx that year.

I still say SM-2 pushed the envelope on action scenes for the CBM genre, and many still think the train fight has yet to be surpassed, and I'd agree. I still think it's the best.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

I agree. The train fight is the best action scene in a CBM to date. The spectacle, the score, the tension and resolution, all done to perfection. That's quite impressive a feat considering it's been over 10 years since SM2 was in theaters and that action sequence has yet to be topped.

 

[Green Goblin]

While I think SM1 is better than SM2 the action was way better in 2 than 1 IMO.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

Watched Diaper-Man 1 again. Still the second best Spider-Man movie.

 

[Leenie]

I really loved the action in Spider-Man 1, to be honest. Sure, it's not as polished and well-done as Spider-Man 2's action, but I think that Spider-Man 1's action knew how to play with suspense and emotional investment from the audience really well ... And me caring about what's happening on the screen is the most important aspect of an action scene, to be honest. If I don't care about the story or the characters, then the action scene will most likely not be good.

My favorite action scenes in Spider-Man 1 are when Peter beats down on Uncle Ben's killer and the dogfight between Spidey and Goblin at the end. To be honest, those two action scenes are probably the most "grounded" or "gritty" parts in all five Spider-Man movies, especially the dogfight. The dogfight was fantastic because of how brutal it got, which is perfect for a Spider-Man vs. Green Goblin fight. It's supposed to be personal, and you're supposed to feel how much both characters despise each other, and the movie did that so well.

EDIT: Also, I'll never forget some of the audience reactions every time I saw the first movie in theaters (and I ended up seeing the film 5 times in theaters). People were tense as hell during the "drop" scene on the bridge. I also remember people applauding like crazy when Peter won that fight against Flash, when Spider-Man saved Mary Jane at the festival, and when Spider-Man dropped the brick wall on top of Goblin during the dogfight. Like I said, the action in the first movie isn't as polished or as good as Spider-Man 2's, but the action certainly did its job at making the audience care about what was going on.

 

[Nardz937]

Hoping for a 15th anniversary edition blu-ray of Spider-Man 1 in 2017. It would also make for a good promotion boost for the reboot movie that same summer.

 

[The Joker]

One of the leaked emails from Sony revealed Amy Pascal saying the first two Raimi Spidey movies are the bench mark, and SM-3 is better than both of the TASM movies.

I have new respect for her.

 

[DX]

One of the leaked emails from Sony revealed Amy Pascal saying the first two Raimi Spidey movies are the bench mark, and SM-3 is better than both of the TASM movies.

I have new respect for her.

Is there a link to this?

 

[The Joker]

There's a whole thread full of them; http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=497383&page=15

I think that particular one is on page 12 or 13 of the thread.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

One of the leaked emails from Sony revealed Amy Pascal saying the first two Raimi Spidey movies are the bench mark, and SM-3 is better than both of the TASM movies.

I have new respect for her.

While I don't agree with that statement in its entirety, this does give me some confidence in Pascal and that she's aware of the difference. SM3 while it does have its issues was still a mostly well-received film and earned a ton of money. I know it's such an easy thing to 'monday morning quarterback' this situation...hindsight is 20/20, right? But one of the biggest mistakes Sony has ever made was letting Raimi walk. They should have done whatever was needed to get him to stay and I believe, especially after reading those emails, that the main or at least the biggest reason he was allowed to walk is because of Arad and his ego. I'll bet anything he was saying something to the effect of "Sam isn't the reason SM1 and 2 are so successful...it's all my doing." Even if it was obvious then, it's very obvious now. In my very humble opinion, Sam Raimi is one of the three best things to ever happen to Sony.

 

[ernesth100]

Anyone remember that scene in the first film where he was fighting crime and taking pictures of himself. I loved that scene. Can never find it on the internet though

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Anyone remember that scene in the first film where he was fighting crime and taking pictures of himself. I loved that scene. Can never find it on the internet though

Are you referring to the scene with Spider-Man taking on those thieves robbing the armored car?

Here it is. Sorry about the poor quality.

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I've always loved this scene. Spidey's movements or choreography rather is just awesome--exactly how I would picture him moving while reading the comics.

 

[ernesth100]

Are you referring to the scene with Spider-Man taking on those thieves robbing the armored car?

Here it is. Sorry about the poor quality.

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I've always loved this scene. Spidey's movements or choreography rather is just awesome--exactly how I would picture him moving while reading the comics.

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I agree, one of those scenes that really stuck with me. Felt like a real comic book Spidey moment.

 

[Spidey_62]

I always really enjoyed the quick scene, too. Very Spider-Man and fun, the acrobatics, taking pictures of himself for the Bugle, "Cheese!!"

 

[Spider-Fan]

One of the leaked emails from Sony revealed Amy Pascal saying the first two Raimi Spidey movies are the bench mark, and SM-3 is better than both of the TASM movies.

I have new respect for her.

She said that? Then I actually agree with her on something.

 

[Venom75]

I caught part 2 on FX today and one of the things I love about the film is how much Peter Parker suffers. Weird to say,I know. But I like how being Spider-man,while it can be cool,isn't as fun as it's cracked up to be. It's not always easy to do the right thing. To be the hero requires sacrifice and I love how Sam Raimi explores that in each of the 3 movies. Peter grows and learns,not just to become a better hero but a better person as well.

 

[Spidey_62]

^ Yeah, the smaller focus in 2 really worked well because it spent so much time focusing in on what Peter's life is like. Not a whole lot of films in the genre really go smaller or stay the same in scope for the second go around like that.

Today the 1st film came out 13 years ago. Isn't that nuts?

Here's an article from Collider reminiscing on its importance.

 

[Venom75]

Today the 1st film came out 13 years ago. Isn't that nuts?

Here's an article from Collider reminiscing on its importance.

That actually depresses me. I miss Sam,Tobey and Kirsten alot and its so hard to believe that it's been that long since the first film. Hell,it's been 8 years since Spider-man 3 came out! The great memories I have from all 3 movies are still fresh in my mind.
It's also staggering to see how far we've come. Since that first film opened the flood gates we've seen Captain America,Iron Man,the Avengers,Thor,Green Lantern,Watchmen,Ghost Rider and countless X-men films. As well as reboots on Spidey himself,the Hulk,Batman,Superman and the Fantastic Four.
It's difficult to imagine a time when comic book/superhero movies didn't dominate the screen.

 

[Spidey_62]

That actually depresses me. I miss Sam,Tobey and Kirsten alot and its so hard to believe that it's been that long since the first film. Hell,it's been 8 years since Spider-man 3 came out! The great memories I have from all 3 movies are still fresh in my mind.
It's also staggering to see how far we've come. Since that first film opened the flood gates we've seen Captain America,Iron Man,the Avengers,Thor,Green Lantern,Watchmen,Ghost Rider and countless X-men films. As well as reboots on Spidey himself,the Hulk,Batman,Superman and the Fantastic Four.
It's difficult to image a time when comic book/superhero movies didn't dominate the screen.

Sure, on one hand it is depressing since 13 years have gone by. It's weird, there are a lot of memories. I was a super excited 7 year old just absorbing everything Spidey. I'd been reading the comics for a year, played the games on the Playstation, had a bunch of toys, loved the 90s cartoon... I was ready. Then the movie finally hit and my life trajectory as a comic geek was sealed.

I remember thinking when I was younger, too, how cool it would be to see a Captain America movie- like a real good one and not what had already been done- and couldn't have dreamed that we'd be getting stuff like that and beyond. Most of the time it's really well made, too. It's just crazy to think about, yeah.

Blade and X-Men were good, but they didn't have the impact and accessibility Spidey did. I think it kinda proved that you can do this in a way that appeals to the greater audience BY believing in the source material. It's pretty much what Kevin Feige said before about not understanding why studio heads were confused on how to adapt this stuff when the comics themselves were it right there.