The Official Lois Lane Casting & Discussion Thread - Part 2

[BH/HHH]

I just realized that I miss balehead. Because she is the barometer that could have determined whether this "non Lois Lane news" had any validity. If she popped in here and swore that there would be no Lois in the movie whatsoever, we know that Lois WOULD in fact, be in the movie, and be the female lead. And vice versa.

Her track record is flawless:

She was adamant that there was no way in hell Selina Kyle/Catwoman would appear in The Dark Knight Rises.

She was certain that Henry Cavill would never play Superman.

She's the Bizarro Nostradamus!

I just wonder where she is? haven't heard a thing from her since before Cavill was cast.

 

[Green Ghost]

I just realized that I miss balehead. Because she is the barometer that could have determined whether this "non Lois Lane news" had any validity. If she popped in here and swore that there would be no Lois in the movie whatsoever, we know that Lois WOULD in fact, be in the movie, and be the female lead. And vice versa.

Her track record is flawless:

She was adamant that there was no way in hell Selina Kyle/Catwoman would appear in The Dark Knight Rises.

She was certain that Henry Cavill would never play Superman.

She's the Bizarro Nostradamus!

 

[Rowsdower!]

Someone said she was banned. Not sure why, though. Of course, if she was, she could always come back (like, um, some people here, hahaha).

Of course, maybe she's just too distraught over the Cavill casting. Poor Daniel Clodmore. If only he could act.

 

[Doc Samson]

Why because of a rumour?

It's not exactly a new rumor, it's been around for awhile, and with the casting of Superman already, it's safe to assume the female lead will be any day now.

I believe there's some credence to this, not that it's a bad thing. Lois will be in the film regardless, in some capacity, just maybe not as the lead, hence, the importance of her casting losing some of it's relevancy

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Someone said she was banned. Not sure why, though. Of course, if she was, she could always come back (like, um, some people here, hahaha).

Of course, maybe she's just too distraught over the Cavill casting. Poor Daniel Clodmore. If only he could act.

She is?

 

[BH/HHH]

It's not exactly a new rumor, it's been around for awhile, and with the casting of Superman already, it's safe to assume the female lead will be any day now.

I believe there's some credence to this, not that it's a bad thing. Lois will be in the film regardless, in some capacity, just maybe not as the lead, hence, the importance of her casting losing some of it's relevancy

Well I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Rumours tend to be reused again and again.

 

[Micah12345]

She was also 100% positive we would see talia and ra's in TDKR.

 

[Rowsdower!]

She was also 100% positive we would see talia and ra's in TDKR.

Heh, well, I hadn't completely ruled out the possibility of Talia and Ra's showing up, but I have now.

 

[Doc Samson]

Well I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Rumours tend to be reused again and again.

True. I'm just saying if, in fact, her role were to be reduced, I wouldn't be so up in arms over the casting as I would be otherwise.

Having significant screentime and interaction with Cavill is what places so much importance on the chemistry and ability of said actress. Take some of that out of the equation, and the bulk of that pressure goes to whoever the female lead character winds up being. As we learned in SR, we aren't guaranteed a sequel for Lois to be expanded upon if things don't go right

 

[Astrodust]

I have no problem with Lois Lane getting a smaller part in the first film and building more on it in the sequels. This is a coming of age film for Superman. It's not the point to establish his relationship fully with Lois.

Things I want to see in this film.
1. Clark traveling the globe witnessing conflicts and inner turmoil.
2. Clark doing heroic things and perhaps experiencing the loss of a friend/co-worker.
3. The introduction of a Supervillain and Lex and an epic battle.
4. He decides to become Superman at the midway point.
5. Superman defeating the Supervillain, saving Lois, and getting hired at The Daily Planet.

You can see how Lois might not be the female lead or at least only one of the leads in the above example.

edit: I swapped 3 and 4 around but you get the idea.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

If you're going to ****-talk banned users, you can't get any "better" than the fat ****** who dressed up like Spider-Man.

 

[Doc Samson]

I have no problem with Lois Lane getting a smaller part in the first film and building more on it in the sequels. This is a coming of age film for Superman. It's not the point to establish his relationship fully with Lois.

Things I want to see in this film.
1. Clark traveling the globe witnessing conflicts and inner turmoil.
2. Clark doing heroic things and perhaps experiencing the loss of a friend/co-worker.
3. He decides to become Superman at the midway point.
4. The introduction of a Supervillain and Lex and an epic battle.
5. Superman defeating the Supervillain, saving Lois, and getting hired at The Daily Planet.

You can see how Lois might not be the female lead or at least only one of the leads in the above example.

Something I can't stand with Superman movies so far, is how much time he spends in Metropolis. I understand that's where he patrols, and of course the older movies had monetary issues, but this is now, and Superman can get from Metropolis to Alaska in no time flat if he wants to. He definitely needs to be around the world more, and off the planet too.

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Yeah, that's one of the things I liked in Birthright, was how he travelled the globe helping people well before he put on the suit.

 

[Zack Snyder]

I've lost trust in certain "insiders" around here. Nothing panned out. Though I do understand they didn't intentionally make up stuff, just bad sources. Thank God though, now we have Cavill a younger Superman and Snyder as the director

If it were Hamm as Superman and Jonah Nolan directing a lot of fans would have been taking anti depressants.

 

[Herolee10]

The problem with saving Lois's character to be the female lead for another film (sequel) is that no one can guarantee that there will be a sequel for this film; so Idk why they'd take the risk of not exposing what they can of her character when they have the chance. I'm not asking for them to give it all out, just asking for them to do as much as they can for the context of the story that they're trying to tell since for all we know, what happened to SR could happen to them in regards to thinking that they have a sequel in hand, only for them not to get it.

 

[Astrodust]

The problem with saving Lois's character to be the female lead for another film (sequel) is that no one can guarantee that there will be a sequel for this film; so Idk why they'd take the risk of not exposing what they can of her character when they have the chance. I'm not asking for them to give it all out, just asking for them to do as much as they can for the context of the story that they're trying to tell since for all we know, what happened to SR could happen to them in regards to thinking that they have a sequel in hand, only for them not to get it.

I'm pretty sure that Lois will share the lead at the very least. You don't want to have Superman and Lois fall in love and have too much resolution in the first movie for fear that there won't be sequels. Yes you want to create a great film that will stand on it's own but have some sort of arc that leaves us wanting more. This is the coming of age of Superman. He doesn't need to get married and have kids right away.

 

[Ursa]

Balehead is out there, we discuss a lot in a Brazilian forum. And she have changed her mind about Cavill since she saw a fan art of him.

This picture actually:

Plus, she's rooting for Rachel McAdams to be Lois Lane.

 

[Micah12345]

But...if she wants mcadams...that means it won't happen!

 

[Astrodust]

Was Balehead the one rooting for Travis Van Winkle?

 

[Micah12345]

she wanted daniel cludmore

 

[Willi Berg]

Can you explain a little bit regarding this? I just thought they would lose the rights if they don't make a movie? So they'll lose them anyway even though they are making it?

WB are open to being sued by the Siegels if they don't have a Superman movie in production by 2011.

"The Court pointedly ruled that if Warner Bros. does not start production on another Superman film by 2011, the Siegels will be able to sue to recover their damages," Toberoff added. "The Siegels look forward to the remainder of the case, which will determine how much defendants owe them for their exploitations of Superman." (VARIETY- Jul. 8, 2009)

WB/DC lose all the rights to Action Comics #1 in 2013 and will have to make a new deal with the Siegels and Shusters if they want to continue using Superman.

Article:

Superman co-creator's family given rights

Siegels now control character's Krypton origins

By MARC GRASER | VARIETY

Posted: Thurs., Aug. 13, 2009, 4:34pm PT

Warner Bros. and DC Comics have lost a little more control over the Man of Steel.

In an ongoing Federal court battle over Superman, Judge Stephen Larson ruled Wednesday that the family of the superhero's co-creator, Jerry Siegel, has "successfully recaptured" rights to additional works, including the first two weeks of the daily Superman newspaper comic-strips, as well as portions of early Action Comics and Superman comic-books.

The ruling is based on the court's finding that these were not "works-made-for-hire" under the Copyright Act.

This means the Siegels -- repped by Marc Toberoff of Toberoff & Associates -- now control depictions of Superman's origins from the planet Krypton, his parents Jor-El and Lora, Superman as the infant Kal-El, the launching of the infant Superman into space by his parents as Krypton explodes and his landing on Earth in a fiery crash.

The first Superman story was published in 1938 in Action Comics No. 1. For $130, Jerry Siegel and co-creator Joel Shuster signed a release in favor of DC's predecessor, Detective Comics, and a 1974 court decision ruled they signed away their copyrights forever.

In 2008, the same court order ruled on summary judgment that the Siegels had successfully recaptured (as of 1999) Siegel's copyright in Action Comics No. 1, giving them rights to the Superman character, including his costume, his alter-ego as reporter Clark Kent, the feisty reporter Lois Lane, their jobs at the Daily Planet newspaper working for a gruff editor, and the love triangle among Clark/Superman and Lois.

While ownership of the Man of Steel is one point of all this legal activity, the real issue is money and how much Warner Bros. and DC owe the Siegels from profits they collected from Superman since 1999, when the heirs' recapture of Siegel's copyright became effective.

DC owns other elements like Superman's ability to fly, the term kryptonite, the Lex Luthor and Jimmy Olsen characters, Superman's powers and expanded origins.

In a statement, Warner Bros. and DC said, "Warner and DC Comics are pleased that the court has affirmed that the vast majority of key elements associated with the Superman character that were developed after Action Comics No. 1 are not part of the copyrights that the plaintiffs have recaptured and therefore remain solely owned by DC Comics."

The Shuster estate originally did not participate with the Siegels' case because Shuster has no spouse or children. But his estate later won a ruling of a recapture identical to the Siegels, which will be effective in 2013. At that point, the Siegels and Shusters will own the entire copyright to Action Comics No. 1. That will give them the chance to set up Superman pics, TV shows and other projects at another studio.

If they want to get a new "Superman" or even "Justice League" pic featuring the superhero, Warner Bros. and DC will be forced to go into production by 2011.

 

[Herolee10]

I'm pretty sure that Lois will share the lead at the very least. You don't want to have Superman and Lois fall in love and have too much resolution in the first movie for fear that there won't be sequels. Yes you want to create a great film that will stand on it's own but have some sort of arc that leaves us wanting more. This is the coming of age of Superman. He doesn't need to get married and have kids right away.

No doubt about that; I just want to see these things in the first film featuring Lois:

1. Lois getting rescued by Superman personally.

2. Lois giving the exclusive interview to the world about Superman

3. Some..but not TOO much romance between her and Clark/Superman

Of course i wouldn't want kids and marriage for the first film..hell I'd save telling her the secret for the second film altogether.

In any case, I just want her character to be given the proper respect that a character of her level deserves.

 

[Micah12345]

Stupid greedy family. They better not f*** up my DC universe.

 

[Zack Snyder]

With Hathaway out, a lot of people will feel McAdams is a pretty likely choice. Dunno what happened with Portman. Apparently a poster is stating Lilly is pregnant and won't be able to do it. Kunis would be interesting but a little more of a long shot imo. Biel seems more of a WB choice, but I think Snyder would opt for Rachel.

Just my guess at this point.

 

[Zack Snyder]

Of course if you think about it McAdams was in Sherlock Holmes, and has affiliation with the WB. I think Snyder would take her over Biel's sex appeal. I'm gonna stick with that as my guess for now.