Sequels The Official Mike Dougherty & Dan Harris Thread

[nintendo nerd]

It is far superior. Cute sig. And when I say that I mean it is funny. Okay we will have similar but oposite intentioned sigs.

Glad you liked my new sig. And trust me, I didn't do it to be disrespectful or rude. I just thought it would be funny.

I'm trying to have a better relationship with the people here, incluiding you, my friend.

I'd love to see Donner's cut. Unfortunately it's not available here in Mexico. Amazon doesn't bring movies or video games here. Fortunately, my mom will go to the states on Christmas and it will be on my top of the thing to ask her.

 

[buggs0268]

Glad you liked my new sig. And trust me, I didn't do it to be disrespectful or rude. I just thought it would be funny.

I'm trying to have a better relationship with the people here, incluiding you, my friend.

I'd love to see Donner's cut. Unfortunately it's not available here in Mexico. Amazon doesn't bring movies or video games here. Fortunately, my mom will go to the states on Christmas and it will be on my top of the thing to ask her.

No worries. I thought it was funny. I would say to go onto you tube. they have a lot of the changes there.

 

[Angeloz]

Glad you liked my new sig. And trust me, I didn't do it to be disrespectful or rude. I just thought it would be funny.

I'm trying to have a better relationship with the people here, incluiding you, my friend.

I'd love to see Donner's cut. Unfortunately it's not available here in Mexico. Amazon doesn't bring movies or video games here. Fortunately, my mom will go to the states on Christmas and it will be on my top of the thing to ask her.

Can't you order stuff from the U.S. or Canada from shops? Too expensive? 'Cos you can in Australia and we're half a world away. It's still expensive and we're Region 4 not Region 1. I'll note I order books and TPBs.

Angeloz

 

[BloodyWolverine]

Yeah put a little Spike awe sorry aka James Marsters as Zod in the next movie.

Why don't they have Zod and Brainac join forces and Lex and Superman join forces reluctantly.
Recast Lois but keep the kid idea in that was the good Superman Returns part.
Routh was perfect to me. Better then the story.
The should maybe revamp it as another idea like Batman Begins with Returns.

 

[Nightwing1977]

I don't remember a concept with red, white, and blue hair?

Not to mention didn't Ratner's idea was to have that Kryptionite never blew up? And McG is a hack. He can't direct a good film & just go with action. Charlie's Angels, anyone?

 

[Angeloz]

Not to mention didn't Ratner's idea was to have that Kryptionite never blew up? And McG is a hack. He can't direct a good film & just go with action. Charlie's Angels, anyone?

I presume you mean Krypton.

Angeloz

 

[nintendo nerd]

Can't you order stuff from the U.S. or Canada from shops? Too expensive? 'Cos you can in Australia and we're half a world away. It's still expensive and we're Region 4 not Region 1. I'll note I order books and TPBs.

Angeloz

I think they do it, because there's a lot of piracy in Mexico. That's why you can't get those kind of products. Books, electronic stuff there's no problem.
Mexico is region 4 too.

 

[Angeloz]

I think they do it, because there's a lot of piracy in Mexico. That's why you can't get those kind of products. Books, electronic stuff there's no problem.
Mexico is region 4 too.

I see. Do you have the same electricity voltage as the U.S. so you can get Region 1 DVD players to work? Too expensive? Or do you convert the players to play Region 1 as well? Or are multi-region players easy to get? I don't know much on these things I'll admit.

Angeloz

 

[Super Kal]

Not to mention didn't Ratner's idea was to have that Kryptionite never blew up? And McG is a hack. He can't direct a good film & just go with action. Charlie's Angels, anyone?

that was only his FIRST draft... the later drafts that he wrote no longer had Krypton not exploding or Jimmy being gay. the man who reviewed it said it was brilliantly done

 

[Angeloz]

that was only his FIRST draft... the later drafts that he wrote no longer had Krypton not exploding or Jimmy being gay. the man who reviewed it said it was brilliantly done

Was he a fan? 'Cos we tend to love things or hate things. But rarely in the middle. So they might be slightly exaggerating. Or just plain wrong.

Angeloz

 

[Super Kal]

I think he is

 

[nintendo nerd]

I see. Do you have the same electricity voltage as the U.S. so you can get Region 1 DVD players to work? Too expensive? Or do you convert the players to play Region 1 as well? Or are multi-region players easy to get? I don't know much on these things I'll admit.

Angeloz

Yes, we do have the same voltage as the US. I have a playstation which is region 1 and it works quite well. In fact, my SR DVD is region 1 and I got it at the states last Christmas. Multi - region players are really easy too get. But most of the movies that you rent or buy in Mexico are region 4. You can get region 1 but they are twice as expensive. But I haven't found Donner's cut anywhere.

 

[Hypestyle]

anybody have a link to ratner or mcG's drafts?

 

[Super Kal]

they're floating on the net... but you won't find Ratner's later drafts. They were never leaked.

 

[GhostPoet]

What is it with people obsessing over how Luthor "needs" to have Lexcorp? The character did just fine for 40 years before Byrne needed to throw that it, and all it really does is make Lex DC's analog to the Kingpin.

Probably because it's most peoples favorite version of Lex And he's far, FAR more deadly than Kingpin. With Lexcorp he has more freedom to get into the alien stuff a lot more.

 

[Lightning54SC]

they're floating on the net... but you won't find Ratner's later drafts. They were never leaked.

i believe therss no finding it cuz they took parts from it and used them in SR

 

[The Guard]

Not to mention didn't Ratner's idea was to have that Kryptionite never blew up? And McG is a hack. He can't direct a good film & just go with action. Charlie's Angels, anyone?

No. That was JJ Abrams idea, not Ratner or McG's. And the idea was that Krypton would be embroiled in Civil War, and Kal-El's people enslaved. Kal-El was rocketed to freedom so as to avoid his planet's fate.

However, it's not like Krypton was going to hang around. The franchise was conceived as a trilogy. Superman was going to leave Earth for the enslaved Krypton at the end of the first film, go back to rescue his people in SUPERMAN 2, and Krypton WOULD blow up at the end of the second film, with Superman now old enough to understand it's significance in his life.

 

[fabman]

He did a good job directing (the first) Charlie's Angels. I mean, it's over the top, it has no logic... it's just pure fun. But the directing is very good.

 

[Nightwing1977]

I presume you mean Krypton.

Angeloz

Yeah. I was just a little sleepy last night. My spelling tend to look like I was typing while being drunk late at night.

 

[El Payaso]

He did a good job directing (the first) Charlie's Angels. I mean, it's over the top, it has no logic... it's just pure fun. But the directing is very good.

Oh man. I can't be able of so much indulgence myself. Kudos to that. But the movie was as bad as it gets.

 

[DavidTyler]

kararot,

The high lights of the origin, no matter who did it, would've still been exactly like Donner's, exactly like it is in the comic.

The origin can't and won't change because there's no need to do it. The basics never change, no matter what "original" elements you put in.

Strongly disagree. Bryne's origin in MOS made Jor-el a young man of action. He made Krypton a place of unearthly beauty but the victim of a society that had become so advanced that it was repressive. His Kryptonian culture was now devoid of family ... a thing that Jor-el was also rebelling against. His birthing matrix makes so much more sense than strapping a baby into a space going 'chandelier' and hoping he survives. On reaching Earth, his handling of young Clarks discovery of his abilities is the basis for Smallville. How Clark becomes Superman is so much more interesting. His first appearance in public sans costume and then arriving at costume.

It could be very interesting if it isn't glossed over. And much deeper than Donner's. Without taking anything away from Donner, it was OK for it's time, we have more sophisticated audiences for superhero films these days. They don't have to write them specifically for the younger crowd. That would allow them to redo the origin and make it better.

 

[Eros]

Strongly disagree. Bryne's origin in MOS made Jor-el a young man of action. He made Krypton a place of unearthly beauty but the victim of a society that had become so advanced that it was repressive. His Kryptonian culture was now devoid of family ... a thing that Jor-el was also rebelling against. His birthing matrix makes so much more sense than strapping a baby into a space going 'chandelier' and hoping he survives. On reaching Earth, his handling of young Clarks discovery of his abilities is the basis for Smallville. How Clark becomes Superman is so much more interesting. His first appearance in public sans costume and then arriving at costume.

It could be very interesting if it isn't glossed over. And much deeper than Donner's. Without taking anything away from Donner, it was OK for it's time, we have more sophisticated audiences for superhero films these days. They don't have to write them specifically for the younger crowd. That would allow them to redo the origin and make it better.

The birthing matrix was a bad idea, that thankfully nobody uses, and most people ignore. Bryne reboot okay for its time, but really getting rid of so much history, was just a bad idea.

 

[Spider-Bat]

They need to get a decent faithful story. I am so tired of Superman stories that are no where near Super.
WB and DC needs to take a look at the Spider-man movies.
In this day and age and with all the technology, they can do wonders with Superman. Instead all Superman gets is a boring lazy Donner rip off from stupid Singer.

They need to revamp Superman, get an avtual MAN to play the Man of Steel. They don't have to redo the origin again, maybe a quick recap abit more modern as a prologue. Something leading into the credits.

Get a Super Villian already. Superman's rogues gallery is not bad at all, Brainiac, Parasite, Bizarro, all could give as good as a Spider-man movie quality villian, I vote for Brainiac.

Luthor's been done to death, but they could still have him as the bad business man in the back ground, maybe have him progress through the films, have him emerge as the main villian in the third movie.
Just as he evolved in the modern comics.

Only thing I'd love to see return is Spacey as Lex, he was wonderful, not some bafoon like Hackman, his name sure fits, he is a hack.

I don't care about any of his other movies, I never thought he was all that special.

But Spacey, now there's a man who gave the character the respect he deserved, it is just a darn shame they went for the same old motives, land.

All because of stupid Singer, a total ignorant moron, doesn't care about the comics or the fans.

But if you do it respectfully to both you have a hit. The fact is, the faithful ones are the good successful ones.
It shouldn't even be a question, there should be no question of how can we change this, no you idiots, just look at the comic book and bring it to life, it has been popular for a reason, people like that character, they want to see that come to life, not some idiots idea of it that just ruins it and takes it away so far from what it is that it isn't any more.

NO MORE GENERIC SUPERMAN MOVIES. Just make a Superman movie.

 

[Super Kal]

Strongly disagree. Bryne's origin in MOS made Jor-el a young man of action. He made Krypton a place of unearthly beauty but the victim of a society that had become so advanced that it was repressive. His Kryptonian culture was now devoid of family ... a thing that Jor-el was also rebelling against. His birthing matrix makes so much more sense than strapping a baby into a space going 'chandelier' and hoping he survives. On reaching Earth, his handling of young Clarks discovery of his abilities is the basis for Smallville. How Clark becomes Superman is so much more interesting. His first appearance in public sans costume and then arriving at costume.

It could be very interesting if it isn't glossed over. And much deeper than Donner's. Without taking anything away from Donner, it was OK for it's time, we have more sophisticated audiences for superhero films these days. They don't have to write them specifically for the younger crowd. That would allow them to redo the origin and make it better.

completely agree

 

[buggs0268]

The guy as IESB made a good point. Singer is under a pay or play contract unless he walks away, then they don't have to pay him. And it is confirmed that Dan Lin and another top guy at the WB was pissed at Superman Returns. I believe this is to get Singer to walk away on his own. If he doesn't, they will just keep pushing a green light back till he does.