Sequels The Official Mike Dougherty & Dan Harris Thread

[blueboy]

Yeah and its not like SR bombed but it really disappointed and failed to meet the expectations WB had for it I think that is safe to say. And while I enjoy the darkness of characters (which is probably why I love characters like Batman, The Punisher, etc. more) Superman Returns was way too gloomy IMO. The need to lighten it up a bit more not necessarily with humor or jokey Otis type moments but just moments where you don't make you feel depressed.

With that said I really can't stress how much I want to see a Singer Superman movie where he actually draws his inspiration from the comics rather than past film and television.

I'm with you on every statement! There has to be someone out there with enough balls to make their own great Superman movie while keeping the idealist/romantic nature of the donner films.

 

[blueboy]

Let me ask, have they rolled their eyes at the COUNTLESS times its been done in the comics?

I guess it depends on the person my friend. In the context of the movie, it seemed just a bit forced.

 

[Showtime]

YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank the good Lord those fools are out of here!!!

Bring on the reboot!

p.s.

Buggs....what are the lovers' saying now????

Who the hell are you?

 

[Super Kal]

because no one can get their bums out of the seventies, blueboy... it's quite sad actually, because there are so much better origin storylines than what Donner did

 

[blueboy]

kakrot069: It seems like the WB doesn't want to tell Superman's origin story again. I wouldn't mind seeing a "superman begins" of some sorts but I don't even think that's realistic now... They probably just want to dive right into the action.

As long as they maintain the sense of wonder/romance from the the first donner superman, I'll be good to go.

One of my favorite scenes is with Supes and Lois on their first interview/fly date. I'm sure there are tons of things people have yet to see superman do flying wise.

 

[Showtime]

"Can you read my mind..."

 

[charl_huntress]

Who the hell are you?

Showey!!!! Hey there!

I just read the good news over at Supermanhomepage.com and I had to come here to give my thoughts. LOL...I see the thread is active, which means it must be a lively debate.

I'll be back

 

[Showtime]

Showey!!!! Hey there!

I just read the good news over at Supermanhomepage.com and I had to come here to give my thoughts. LOL...I see the thread is active, which means it must be a lively debate.

I'll be back

Good to see you back.

Its been getting pretty active again around here, for obvious reasons.

 

[mego joe]

Let me ask, have they rolled their eyes at the COUNTLESS times its been done in the comics?

It hasn't been done countless times in comics. That is not an iconic image of Superman.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

kakrot069: It seems like the WB doesn't want to tell Superman's origin story again.

Based off of what?



Ya know I find it ridiculous that there are people who fight an origin movie (not saying you specifically) for Superman when the last FILM was in 1978 that told his origin. It's time for a new film to bring an updated take on his origin with just minor tweaks here and there to keep it fresh and bring a new audience.

For some people with Superman Returns, they didn't quite know who he was when he was here. The new fans could use this, the older fans could use an update... Win win situation.

 

[Nightwing1977]

I personally don't think so... he's stuck too much on pleasing Donner than he is the fans.

I doubt it. If he is doing the sequel, he may change it. Seeing as it his first film & a homage one on Donner, he could use his own vision for the sequel. Like I said, I want to hear him mention if the sequel will be his film instead of another Donner's homage. If it his vision & use some more action, I want him to stay.

 

[The Shredder]

That is utterly fantastic.

 

[chaoticreign]

Hmm interesting news. I wouldn't be completely opposed to a reboot. Really IMO there are only two issues with the idea. One of them is time. I know I'm not the only one who doesn't want to wait 5 or 10 years to see another superman movie. And the second is Routh. I really thought routh did an excellent job. To me he was Superman and I would really like to see him reprise the role.

Hell its a shame SR turned out the way it did. It certainly had potential. Just look at the "Up up and away" comic arc from last year. Superman was powerless for a year and returned. Lex used Kryptonian tech to build a kryptonian battle ship(instead of a stupid continent.) Epic battle ensues that leaves superman nearly powerless in a fist fight against lex that ends with him knocking him out before passing out himself. Very good story that runs in a similar vein to SR.

A decent origin could be amazing if it was done right. Personally I would go with something more modern. Perhaps something based around Birthright.

 

[Motown Marvel]

They based Superman on the story of Moses.

partially. its one of many inspirations. my favorite inspiration for the character: sexual frustration. unable to get any chicks, siegel and shuster were dumbfounded as to what it would take to bag a braud...and in a fit of sarcastic frustration figured it'd take being a muscular super powered being who is so beyond ideal he couldnt be of this earth, in order to get a chick.

 

[buggs0268]

I still like SR, but not as much as I used to. WB gave a lot of power to Singer. SR doesn't look as one of the most expensive movies of all time, it just doesn't. And Singer should at least read some comic books to see there is more than STM. And many times feels boring and depressing. I feel bad for Routh he was a great Superman.

Thank for reminding me about my sig. I'm thinking about changing it. I thought you have watched Underdog.

Nope. Didn't watch it. Just thought the effects that matched those in SR in the trailer were executed better in Underdog. Also, I thought the posters were more epic than the dower SR posters.

 

[buggs0268]

YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank the good Lord those fools are out of here!!!

Bring on the reboot!

p.s.

Buggs....what are the lovers' saying now????

GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK GIRL! I decided not to gloat over this at all. There are some pretty upset people that wanted to see a Singer helmed SR2, so they are pretty upset. But you can scroll back and see in this thread and the JLA before SR 2 thread.

 

[buggs0268]

The writing is on the wall.

Yep. What I have been saying for a long time. I am sure they will do the "Singer has moved on to other things." route. But you and I had talks about how this would most likely go, and it seems to be following that route.

 

[teseract]

This news is very very good news. I seen this on other sites.

If that's what awaits us I'm not interested at all anymore. The books blow, they have blown hard since pretty much the Crisis.

 

[teseract]

its not dead, unless people don't give the next incarnation a chance, but I understand where you are coming from, I was the same way when I heard that angs hulk wasn't getting a sequel and then hensleys punisher wasn't, but both of the new movies for each character has some potential so I can't help but think the next incarnation of superman might have the same potential.

I personaly won't give it a chance. The only Superman that ever resonated with me was Donner's and the Fleischer Superman every other incarnation of the character was ****. So, no connection to Donner= ****ty Post-Crisis Whinerman, don't care about that.

 

[FVD]

I'm glad Dougherty and Harris are out too actually. As for Singer well I don't really care. I would actually prefer if he move on also. I do remember him saying he wasn't aware of Lexcorp. That's sad. Very sad.

Give the reigns to Mark Millar to write. It's really about that time we get an updated take on Superman. A reboot would be nice too even though we've already seen most of it. Need the battles with Metallo too.

 

[Retroman]

I am assuming you are saying you find it hard to believe that Mike and Dan walked, not that Younis said it.

Yes.

I want Alex Proyas to direct this. Apparently he was the runner-up in case Singer didn't do it originally.

He posted this on his official message board when asked 3 years ago...

Posted - 10/03/2004 : 17:58:54
Actually for a moment it looked like I might do SUPERMAN but things didn't work out. I would definitely have cast an unknown.

Source:http://mysteryclock.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=990

I like how a scene costs more money than Routh's actual paycheck...lol.

Yeah i think that's scandolous actually. He was the star of the movie plus his image/voice used for the game and god knows how much SR merchandise. I don't care if he was an unknown he should have been paid more money than that.

Routh had actually finished shooting I believe, and Singer brought him back to add the bullet to the eye scene, which cost 2.3 million. This was Singer's answer to lack of action.

and it was filmed with brandon on the set. then on the other hand some people are saying that it is 100% CGI. retroman posted the footage with greenscreen.

i am confused.

answer to lack of action.........hahahhahahahahahah singer stop it hahhahahahhhaha t:

Yup, Brandon was def there. I remember the pic WB used to submit to the Academy Awards "For your consideration". It was Brandon sitting, with Singer standing behind him filming that scene.

Spoiler

Pics courtesy of vfxworld and oscarwatch.com

 

[El Payaso]

I still like SR, but not as much as I used to. WB gave a lot of power to Singer. SR doesn't look as one of the most expensive movies of all time, it just doesn't. And Singer should at least read some comic books to see there is more than STM. And many times feels boring and depressing. I feel bad for Routh he was a great Superman.

I still don't see anything inherently bad about sadness in a movie. The same I don't see the 'not-very-expensive' look as a movie mistake ("they look expensive therefore they're good"?)

So, what can I say? I have my opinions clear from the first time but it was expectable to see people jumping on the bandwagon when the bad times arrive. Good luck following that way.

Thank for reminding me about my sig. I'm thinking about changing it. I thought you have watched Underdog.

I thought too. But well, anything goes to show off your hatred.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

It hasn't been done countless times in comics. That is not an iconic image of Superman.

Of the 22 Superman Graphic Novels i have read, i would say 80-90% of them had religious undertones/symbology in them.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I still don't see anything inherently bad about sadness in a movie. The same I don't see the 'not-very-expensive' look as a movie mistake ("they look expensive therefore they're good"?)

So, what can I say? I have my opinions clear from the first time but it was expectable to see people jumping on the bandwagon when the bad times arrive. Good luck following that way.

Agreed, Superman being down and sad allowed us to both connect to him and feel sorry for him. Not to mention we saw him grow into something else towards the end.

It does seem like people are jumping on the bandwagon doesnt it .

 

[Superman_]

If you read what Millar had to say it looks like they are still going off a sequel to Singers movie. Just with another writer.