Sequels The Official Mike Dougherty & Dan Harris Thread

[Showtime]

To me it doesn't seem like this sequel is happening. I do want to see a sequel and I am disappointed that there will not be one, but the reality is that WB is running a business and if there is no sequel, it is nothing but a business decision.

Either way, I enjoyed Superman Returns, I grew up on the Donner movies just like Singer. That being said, there is nothing wrong with pointing out a movies flaws. I've been talking about it's good points and bad points for months. No film is perfect, and Superman Returns is no exception.

If there is no sequel and Brandon is not Superman in another incarnation, which I think will unfortunately happen, he will be the one I feel bad for if his career doesn't pan out. It does look like he is getting some work done.

Bryan's career will go on and he will continue to direct movies that are important to him, Mike and Dan look like they are moving in other directions. Fans of Superman Returns got a movie they can appreciate, a movie that resonates with them. Now it seems that it is time for another version of Superman with JLA, and then maybe a restart or reboot later.

"Endless Possibilites."

 

[Superman_]

At this point I don't even care. I just want to a Superman movie I enjoy and can see sequels made off of it. The WB needs to stop shooting for Spider-Man numbers IMO because that will not happen right now. If they feel the need for a reboot/revamp or doing a sequel to Singers Superman then so be it just hurry up and do something already.

 

[nintendo nerd]

I still don't see anything inherently bad about sadness in a movie. The same I don't see the 'not-very-expensive' look as a movie mistake ("they look expensive therefore they're good"?)

So, what can I say? I have my opinions clear from the first time but it was expectable to see people jumping on the bandwagon when the bad times arrive. Good luck following that way.



I thought too. But well, anything goes to show off your hatred.

Never thought I would argue with "El payaso". I think my issues with SR related with the the sadness is because my first contact with Superman were the comic books and you rarely see that kind of sadness. Now, since SR is close to the Donner movies it should have the same kind of mood, it doesn't. IMO.

Don't get me wrong, I still like SR a lot. But I think there were some parts that could've been done better, and some scenes and dialogues feel a little bit rushed.

But don't worry my friend, you will never be on my ignore list. You are one of my favorite people on the hype.

 

[nintendo nerd]

Agreed, Superman being down and sad allowed us to both connect to him and feel sorry for him. Not to mention we saw him grow into something else towards the end.

It does seem like people are jumping on the bandwagon doesnt it .

God!!! Just because my perspective of SR has changed a little, doesn't mean I hate it. I don't. I still enjoy watching it. Routh for me is the best Superman ever. The cast was excellent, except for Bosworth. I still want a SR sequel as much as you do. It makes me sad when I hear bad news regarding MOS. I don't want JL. I want MOS.

Thank you.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

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Yup, that's it! Thanks.

 

[valnoren]

I for one am glad they are gone. I was really looking forward to this movie. I liked Routh as Supes but as a father and fan I sat there twinging in the theatre as my kids where watching.

Making Superman into an one night stand , illegitimate father
pissed me off to know end!

As my kids where asking "Dad, was Superman the boy's Dad? I dont get it???" I wanted to explode.

 

[teseract]

"The Origin of Superman: coming in 2010."

*Barfs*

 

[teseract]

I for one am glad they are gone. I was really looking forward to this movie. I liked Routh as Supes but as a father and fan I sat there twinging in the theatre as my kids where watching.

Making Superman into an one night stand , illegitimate father
pissed me off to know end!

As my kids where asking "Dad, was Superman the boy's Dad? I dont get it???" I wanted to explode.

Man, you must have really hated Superman 2 when he shagged Lois without being married.

 

[Super Kal]

Man, you must have really hated Superman 2 when he shagged Lois without being married.

I didn't like that scene either

 

[teseract]

I didn't like that scene either

Oh, heaven beware that morals actually adabt to times, eh? Maybe Supes should insist that Lois wears a victorian dress in case her "immodest ankels" show.

 

[Super Kal]

oh, so that makes it OK for Superman to completely give up his morals, just because the world thinks it's OK for people to have unprotected sex...

his morals is what makes him Superman. You take away his morals, then he's just a vigilante from another world.

 

[Superman_]

oh, so that makes it OK for Superman to completely give up his morals, just because the world thinks it's OK for people to have unprotected sex...

his morals is what makes him Superman. You take away his morals, then he's just a vigilante from another world.

So are your okay with him playing house with Lana on SV as well?

 

[Super Kal]

I really don't have a problem with that.

 

[Superman_]

I really don't have a problem with that.

Okay so it is wrong for him to sleep with Lois (since he iasn't married) but it is okay for him to sleep with Lana and have her staying with him while keeping in mind they are not married either.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

So are your okay with him playing house with Lana on SV as well?

He can get away with more things on Smallville because he is younger, learning, going through changes and technically not yet Superman.

 

[Super Kal]

oh... well I didn't know that.

I don't keep up with that show

 

[Superman_]

He can get away with more things on Smallville because he is younger, learning, going through changes and technically not yet Superman.

LOL I love that excuse.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

oh... well I didn't know that.

I don't keep up with that show

Yea, and in Superman: Doomsday it's insinuated that Supes and Lois are bumping uglies and he hasn't revealed himself as Clark to her yet and to my understanding they are not married.

 

[Super Kal]

haven't seen that either

 

[Showtime]

I think the best way to trigger the emotion arc in a Superman story, is to have Lois find out that Clark & Superman are one in the same by accident.

 

[blueboy]

Based off of what?



Ya know I find it ridiculous that there are people who fight an origin movie (not saying you specifically) for Superman when the last FILM was in 1978 that told his origin. It's time for a new film to bring an updated take on his origin with just minor tweaks here and there to keep it fresh and bring a new audience.

For some people with Superman Returns, they didn't quite know who he was when he was here. The new fans could use this, the older fans could use an update... Win win situation.

I made the assumption that Warner Bros. wouldn't want to do an origin story based on TV shows like Smallville and maybe Lois and Clark.... I guess you can blame it on Singer for wanting to keep Superman 78' as a vague history for the character too... But these are just my own personal asumptions... You know what they say about assuming!

I'm all for an Update. Reboot Reboot! I also think Routh will work well depending on the material he's given. But I don't see them using him for a reboot.

 

[Nightwing1977]

I'm all for an Update. Reboot Reboot! I also think Routh will work well depending on the material he's given. But I don't see them using him for a reboot.

This is why I'm against reboot. Routh done a great job, that I want him to stay. Doing a sequel will help keep him as Superman. Beside, I'm sick of reboot every time. It just as bad as doing remakes & another origin film, when we got the perfect origin in the first Supes film. We don't need another origin film. Leave the origin alone.

 

[nintendo nerd]

I think the best way to trigger the emotion arc in a Superman story, is to have Lois find out that Clark & Superman are one in the same by accident.

Was Byrne or Jurgens who revealed the identity to Lois? I don't remember. Do you know how it was revealed?

 

[Showtime]

Was Byrne or Jurgens who revealed the identity to Lois? I don't remember. Do you know how it was revealed?

I don't recall actually.

 

[nintendo nerd]

I don't recall actually.

just found this:
1990

• In Adventures of Superman #466 Hank Henshaw first appears, who later becomes known as the Cyborg.
• Clark Kent proposes to Lois Lane in Superman #50.

1991

• In Action Comics #662, Clark tells Lois he is Superman.