The Official PS4 Thread - Part 8

[X Knight]

surprisingly, I wasn't that bothered by the X1's size....lol.

I was expecting it to be this monstrous machine, but it didn't seem THAT big in reality.

but yeah, the PS4 does have a lot of little advantages, which might see minor, but they do add up.

Like, being able to save your game save data to a USB stick. The fact that you can create a local backup save for your game data is a big plus for me. especially when you're playing a game like DAI, where you're going to have many saves and many hours invested in the game.

don't fully trust the "Cloud" to be the only backup option available.

not to mention you can backup your save data on the PS4 even if the game is no longer installed. The X1 ties the save data to the game, so you have to manage the save through the game.

may seem minor, but it's a nice feature that the PS4 has.

and the X1 has nice features and advantages too over the PS4, don't get me wrong.

but, ironically, for all the harping I've done here about media playback features and a better browser ( which the X1 has ), I honestly didn't even use those much on the X1 once I started using it to play games.

and, at the end of the day, that's what these gaming consoles are for.......to play games. and it that respect, the PS4 has an advantage over the X1.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Lol, you are something else.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

hey man, potato patato... or watever they say. the dude explained himself and has owned both consoles so it's not like he doesn't know wat he's talkin about

 

[Tron Bonne]

I was mainly talking about the media features comment in his post. He spent ages talking about that stuff across multiple threads, like he probably filled up actual pages of threads talking about it, but now it's just dismissed like it doesn't really matter and he doesn't even use it that much. He can feel however he wants, of course, just can't help but chuckle at that. You don't need to jump to his aid, I think X Knight will appreciate the irony (or I hope he will).

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

By the way, did anyone notice that the Vita like... wasn't a thing this Black Friday? Not one ad.

ya I noticed, but honestly... unless they gave a deal that was $100 or less (which they never would've) I wouldn've been interested.

 

[Tron Bonne]

The PS TV was on sale at Amazon, but that was about it. I think Sony has just given up on the Vita.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

yeh I remember this meme that came out during the release of minecraft where it said something like

That awkward moment when Microsoft is supporting Vita more than Sony

 

[Havok83]

So the digital price of TLoUR keeps dropping online and can now be found for under $20. I REALLY want to jump on that price but the main thing preventing me is the 500gb HDD. If I had 2tb, it would be a no brainer but at 50gb I need to manage my space more and a download like that would take like 2 days. That wouldn't be so bad if I were to only download it once and keep it, but I'll probably want to play it every so often. Too bad the physical copy refuses to drop in price. I still hate that there was no deals on it outside of the PS4 bundle

By the way, did anyone notice that the Vita like... wasn't a thing this Black Friday? Not one ad.

there was nothing for it last year either. I roll my eyes whenever Sony comes out and says sales have improved thanks to the PS4. I always thought Id buy one eventually but my main reason for avoiding it is that Sony doesn't even seem invested in it anymore. Not having any BF promos two years in a row seems pretty blatant

yeh I remember this meme that came out during the release of minecraft where it said something like

That awkward moment when Microsoft is supporting Vita more than Sony

which is stupid bc MS isn't supporting the Vita

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

which is stupid bc MS isn't supporting the Vita

I guess you didn't get the joke... it's about how minecraft was released on the vita AFTER microsoft bought mojang. so it is basically a microsoft gaming released on the vita which actually boosted minecraft sales by like 80% when it launched.

that's microsoft making money off playstation games.

 

[Tron Bonne]

There's no way a Vita port increased the sale of Minecraft, the best selling game of all time, by 80%

 

[Havok83]

I guess you didn't get the joke... it's about how minecraft was released on the vita AFTER microsoft bought mojang. so it is basically a microsoft gaming released on the vita which actually boosted minecraft sales by like 80% when it launched.

that's microsoft making money off playstation games.

No I get it I just think its stupid bc MS has nothing to do with Minecraft coming to Vita. That was in development LONG before their recent purchase

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

There's no way a Vita port increased the sale of Minecraft, the best selling game of all time, by 80%

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ed-unity-launch-beats-black-flags-in-uk-chart
fyi tron bonne, it ain't the best selling game of ALL TIME, but it is among them.

No I get it I just think its stupid bc MS has nothing to do with Minecraft coming to Vita. That was in development LONG before their recent purchase

since it wasn't released before the acquisition, they could've halted and ceased development if they wanted to, you know. but they let it happen anyways which means they're making money off of playstation games

 

[Tron Bonne]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ed-unity-launch-beats-black-flags-in-uk-chart
fyi tron bonne, it ain't the best selling game of ALL TIME, but it is among them.

For one, this is just for the UK. The language of this also makes me think they mean 80% of PlayStation sales since they only cite the PS3/PS4, which I'm still pretty skeptical of, but it at least makes more sense, since it only debuted at number 7 on that list.

You are right, though, I was mixed up. It's the best selling PC game of all time, and second best selling game of all time.

 

[Havok83]

since it wasn't released before the acquisition, they could've halted and ceased development if they wanted to, you know. but they let it happen anyways which means they're making money off of playstation games

No they couldn't bc MS had nothing to do with the game's development. SONY published the game and 4J Studios developed it. This was a deal that was in place long before the acquisition and MS couldn't just end the contract between Sony and Mojang bc they purchased the company. Sony poured money into the project and you'd be looking at a class action lawsuit if MS tried to can it. The game was practically done by this point but issues with certification led to its delay, so yeah I stand by my statement that MS did not support the game by it being released

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

For one, this is just for the UK. The language of this also makes me think they mean 80% of PlayStation sales since they only cite the PS3/PS4, which I'm still pretty skeptical of, but it at least makes more sense, since it only debuted at number 7 on that list.

You are right, though, I was mixed up. It's the best selling PC game of all time, and second best selling game of all time.

word. i dunno if it was accounting just for the U.K but I just wanted to show you that I wasn't pulling those numbers outta my nostrils

if we count tetris, it is apparently the 4th best selling game ever, and i thought wow was the best selling PC game?

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

No they couldn't bc MS had nothing to do with the game's development. SONY published the game and 4J Studios developed it. This was a deal that was in place long before the acquisition and MS couldn't just end the contract between Sony and Mojang bc they purchased the company. Sony poured money into the project and you'd be looking at a class action lawsuit if MS tried to can it. The game was practically done by this point but issues with certification led to its delay, so yeah I stand by my statement that MS did not support the game by it being released

why would sony spend money on another developer's port to their platform? that doesn't make sense to me. this is a 3rd party title all around, same as cod and gta.

 

[Tron Bonne]

word. i dunno if it was accounting just for the U.K but I just wanted to show you that I wasn't pulling those numbers outta my nostrils

Uh, literally everything in that article is talking about the UK charts

if we count tetris, it is apparently the 4th best selling game ever, and i thought wow was the best selling PC game?

I'm reading different things, but it doesn't matter. My point was that a port to a more or less dead in the water system has no chance of increasing the sales of such a hugely selling game by 80%. There's more copies of Minecraft sold on the 360 than there will probably ever be Vitas sold lol.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Uh, literally everything in that article is talking about the UK charts

that doesn't necessarily mean it is talking only about minecraft sales in the UK though. they could be talking about its sales worldwide although yeah it's likely that they're talking about the UK but even then, if it is JUST the UK, we can expect similar numbers elsewhere, you know.

I'm reading different things, but it doesn't matter. My point was that a port to a more or less dead in the water system has no chance of increasing the sales of such a hugely selling game by 80%. There's more copies of Minecraft sold on the 360 than there will probably ever be Vitas sold lol.

you right... but maybe minecraft was just what the vita needed. although yeah the system is pretty much a failure. btw i was looking at wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

 

[Havok83]

why would sony spend money on another developer's port to their platform? that doesn't make sense to me. this is a 3rd party title all around, same as cod and gta.

Um.....

Sony has a history of paying for ports on its handhelds. Why? Bc developers are either too busy with other projects or don't feel the handhelds are profitable enough to purse. So one way in order for Sony to get acclaimed franchises on the Vita (and PSP before it), is to publish the games themselves and that includes funding part or all of its development in addition to promotion and fees associated with distribution and release. Go look up up the Vita version of MC. You will see that SCEA published it, not Mojang.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Um.....

Sony has a history of paying for ports on its handhelds. Why? Bc developers are either too busy with other projects or don't feel the handhelds are profitable enough to purse. So one way in order for Sony to get acclaimed franchises on the Vita (and PSP before it), is to publish the games themselves and that includes funding part or all of its development in addition to promotion and fees associated with distribution and release. Go look up up the Vita version of MC. You will see that SCEA published it, not Mojang.

sony published ALL the playstation versions of minecraft, just like microsoft published all the xbox versions of it, so that doesn't mean anything to me

 

[Tron Bonne]

that doesn't necessarily mean it is talking only about minecraft sales in the UK though. they could be talking about its sales worldwide although yeah it's likely that they're talking about the UK but even then, if it is JUST the UK, we can expect similar numbers elsewhere, you know.

I don't think it's a question, just read through that whole article. It's obviously just talking about the UK. And I'm fairly certain they are only talking about PlayStation related sales. I mean, use logic; the Vita Minecraft port debuted at 7. How would a port that increased the sales of one of the best selling games ever by 80% is only going to be at number 7 haha?

I could maybe believe it increasing sales of the Vita by 80%, but that's not particularly impressive.

you right... but maybe minecraft was just what the vita needed. although yeah the system is pretty much a failure. btw i was looking at wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

Ah.

 

[Havok83]

sony published ALL the playstation versions of minecraft, just like microsoft published all the xbox versions of it, so that doesn't mean anything to me

That doesn't disprove my point. You know publishing a game requires pouring money into it right?

 

[Thundercrack85]

That's one thing I have to give Nintendo, they know how to do handheld titles.

Though I do pray for the day Twilight Princess gets ported to the New 3DS. Among other Gamecube titles.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

That doesn't disprove my point. You know publishing a game requires pouring money into it right?

NO. You got me

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

also I want to say that the playstation app is garbage. it never works properly 99.9% of the time.