The Official SAW V thread

[nocomics]

are you joking? because i dont like it, you think i havent seen it?

my wife dragged me to see it and it was ok. but compared to the original, its ****. the real..."main story"... of this franchise is so lame. im sorry, but how many apprentices does jigsaw have?

Got Milk? cause this franchise is milking all its got. other than new traps, it has no purpose.


in saw 6 its going to be jigsaws apprentices apprentice.

sorry you hate the fact that people dont like what u like, but this franchise has gotten progressively WORSE.

/shrug its costs them nothing to make,and they make double or more of their profits,so why not.

Ehh, I understand sortof of ur issue with the apprentice,think Saw6 will end the series,I hope,but I won't put it past them to leave it open...

I don't think they've gotten worse,as I think Saw3,Saw4 were decent.

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I'll admit I was disappointed that they did'nt have more interaction/flashbacks with Hoffman,and Amanda. Though I guess it was jiggs idea to keep that annoymos from her..I was also disappointed in not knowing what the note said that was written to Amanda by Hoffman? Now they are keeping it suspence about what was in the box to Jill,I'll take a wild stab that it was instructions to further his games. So,I guess this implies that shes involved some in some form..Im just a harsh critic,it was a decent movie,not great,but not terrible neither. I think also what made the movie iffy,was the type of format they used the look of the film seemed soo grainy,and lacked that 'green' that most other saws had.

I hope they tie any loose ends up,and finish the story in a huge wild twist.I was also hopen they would end the Dr.Gordon arc,besides waiting to do it in the game,as many ppl aren't gonna buy the game. Maybe we will get a blessing and they touch this on last movie,as soo many fans of movie loved Dr.Gordon(though I'd prefered Adam as being more entertaining).

 

[Sloth7d]

Didn't like this one, this is coming from someone who has liked the first four. I felt the plot didn't really go anywhere in this, and only built up to an ending that I didn't really care for, in fact, I'd say it kinda pissed me off because I saw it coming. Well, then again, there was nothing to really see coming in this one as far as big revalations go. Howbeit, you'd think these people would learn, when Jigsaw tells you to do something, he means it! Seriously! After the movie was over, the audience I viewed it with let out a big groan. I think it left everyone dissatisfied, especially since there weren't any likable characters in this one. Everyone seemed to be a jerk or loser. It's hard to cheer for anybody.
I give it a 6/10

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Didn't like this one, this is coming from someone who has liked the first four. I felt the plot didn't really go anywhere in this, and only built up to an ending that I didn't really care for, in fact, I'd say it kinda pissed me off because I saw it coming. Well, then again, there was nothing to really see coming in this one as far as big revalations go. Howbeit, you'd think these people would learn, when Jigsaw tells you to do something, he means it! Seriously! After the movie was over, the audience I viewed it with let out a big groan. I think it left everyone dissatisfied, especially since there weren't any likable characters in this one. Everyone seemed to be a jerk or loser. It's hard to cheer for anybody.
I give it a 6/10

I doubt the entire audience let out a big groan. I'm sure some did, but not all of them. The Saw films never really had likable characters except for Detective Matthews, Rigg, and Strahm. Everyone in general has some sort of shady past that makes you dislike them or they're just a jerk in general.

There is no "good" or "bad" guys in Saw. I was cheering for Strahm because anyone who

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stabs themselves in the neck to keep from drowning is a badass.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

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what do you want me to say man? that Strahm was crushed by walls? that strahm shoves hoffman into the glass box? hoffman placed the phone where the game is being played? strahm turns out to be the real one trapped? i mean wtf? i saw the ****ing movie. and it was not good. sorry.

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All of which were already said in this thread. Anyone can click on the spoilers and say they saw it.

 

[Reek]

wtf?

 

[StrainedEyes]

I doubt the entire audience let out a big groan. I'm sure some did, but not all of them. The Saw films never really had likable characters except for Detective Matthews, Rigg, and Strahm. Everyone in general has some sort of shady past that makes you dislike them or they're just a jerk in general.

There is no "good" or "bad" guys in Saw. I was cheering for Strahm because anyone who

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stabs themselves in the neck to keep from drowning is a badass.

I like Strahm for the same reason I liked Det. Matthews. This series twists and turns and has so many unsavory people, it's easy to cling to anyone with a heroic stance, no matter how small. Who wouldn't have liked Eric to make it out alive and try to get revenge?

 

[Steyin]

Saw it and enjoyed it, but it was kind of lackluster in a few areas.

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I was expecting to see Jeff's daughter involved in something bigger, but oh well, the whole idea of that being planned out for Hoffman to look like the hero made sense.

As for the 5 victims, I didn't really see how they contribute anything to the main story, unless successfully going through with their tests was Hoffman's test. Which makes me wonder, what exactly was his test? To frame Straham?To successfully carry on Jigsaw's legacy? It's not entirely clear to me.

I'm curious to what was in Jill's box, but I think she was the one who left the note on Hoffman's desk saying "I know who you are". Erickson came off a little weird, like you know he is involved on a bigger level, or is the last person that needs to be tested. Also that chick who did the cell phone tracking seems a bit weird...

As for the end, I wouldn't really call it a twist in any way. Hoffman lives, Straham dies, nothing surprising there.

I did like tying the films together more with the flashbacks and sets, especiallly what seemed to be the blood trail Gordon may have left while crawling away, unless that was from Matthews.

Overall it was solid, probably the 3rd best of the series IMO. I think I enjoyed 4 more, but the fact that this one relied on story/plot more than gore and the traps was very reminiscent of the first film, and helped it.

 

[Sloth7d]

I doubt the entire audience let out a big groan. I'm sure some did, but not all of them. The Saw films never really had likable characters except for Detective Matthews, Rigg, and Strahm. Everyone in general has some sort of shady past that makes you dislike them or they're just a jerk in general.

There is no "good" or "bad" guys in Saw. I was cheering for Strahm because anyone who

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stabs themselves in the neck to keep from drowning is a badass.

I disagree. The last Saw films had characters who, while they may have shady pasts, at least had redeeming qualities.

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Strahm almost had me with the pen manuever, though it never made sense to me how Hoffman figured he would do that, survive, and thus need to set up that last tid bit in the end. I digress though, the pen scene almost had me until I remembered he killed the father of that girl (too many names to remember). If Strahm had just have announced he was the police it might not have happened that way. Megan Good's character was trash the instant she killed the only one in the room who seemed to have a grip on the situation for no reason, and only degenerated from there. The one chick became unlikable the instant she killed Megan Good without hesitating or reasoning with her. The junky was a junky. Hoffman, I expected to die because of the recording at the end of Saw IV, which now, I'm not sure what it was all about. And the others, I won't get into, because this post is starting to become a wall of text

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I disagree. The last Saw films had characters who, while they may have shady pasts, at least had redeeming qualities.

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Strahm almost had me with the pen manuever, though it never made sense to me how Hoffman figured he would do that, survive, and thus need to set up that last tid bit in the end. I digress though, the pen scene almost had me until I remembered he killed the father of that girl (too many names to remember). If Strahm had just have announced he was the police it might not have happened that way. Megan Good's character was trash the instant she killed the only one in the room who seemed to have a grip on the situation for no reason, and only degenerated from there. The one chick became unlikable the instant she killed Megan Good without hesitating or reasoning with her. The junky was a junky. Hoffman, I expected to die because of the recording at the end of Saw IV, which now, I'm not sure what it was all about. And the others, I won't get into, because this post is starting to become a wall of text

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You mean when Strahm killed Jeff? Well in his case it was understandable. Jeff pointed a gun at him and Strahm reacted the best way he knew how. But I do agree he could've announced he was an FBI agent before killing him.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Saw it and enjoyed it, but it was kind of lackluster in a few areas.

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I was expecting to see Jeff's daughter involved in something bigger, but oh well, the whole idea of that being planned out for Hoffman to look like the hero made sense.

As for the 5 victims, I didn't really see how they contribute anything to the main story, unless successfully going through with their tests was Hoffman's test. Which makes me wonder, what exactly was his test? To frame Straham?To successfully carry on Jigsaw's legacy? It's not entirely clear to me.

I'm curious to what was in Jill's box, but I think she was the one who left the note on Hoffman's desk saying "I know who you are". Erickson came off a little weird, like you know he is involved on a bigger level, or is the last person that needs to be tested. Also that chick who did the cell phone tracking seems a bit weird...

As for the end, I wouldn't really call it a twist in any way. Hoffman lives, Straham dies, nothing surprising there.

I did like tying the films together more with the flashbacks and sets, especiallly what seemed to be the blood trail Gordon may have left while crawling away, unless that was from Matthews.

Overall it was solid, probably the 3rd best of the series IMO. I think I enjoyed 4 more, but the fact that this one relied on story/plot more than gore and the traps was very reminiscent of the first film, and helped it.

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There's no way that blood trail could've came from Matthews. His crushed foot couldn't have generated that much blood loss. Yeah he was dragging his foot but that was A LOT of blood for it to be a crushed foot.

 

[Sloth7d]

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You mean when Strahm killed Jeff? Well in his case it was understandable. Jeff pointed a gun at him and Strahm reacted the best way he knew how. But I do agree he could've announced he was an FBI agent before killing him.

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True, but yeah, it was careless of him not to think of the possibilty of there being any hostile survivors that may not know who he is when he entered.
All in all, I can forgive this film if there's a big pay off in Saw VI. There are too many unanswered questions from this one and Saw IV. Though I really wanted to know what that recording Hoffman got at the end of IV was all about. Oh well, guess I'll have to wait... again.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

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True, but yeah, it was careless of him not to think of the possibilty of there being any hostile survivors that may not know who he is when he entered.
All in all, I can forgive this film if there's a big pay off in Saw VI. There are too many unanswered questions from this one and Saw IV. Though I really wanted to know what that recording Hoffman got at the end of IV was all about. Oh well, guess I'll have to wait... again.

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That is a good question Sloth. Let's face it, Hoffman hasn't been tested honestly and I can't see this franchise ending with him as the lone survivor.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Hey everyone I have a very, very weird theory. I may need you to be patient with me because I'm not sure how to explain this.

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What if the recording for Hoffman is the real opener for SAW 6? What I'm trying to say is, what if the fifth film is more like a prequel and not so much of a sequel again? I imagine certain things happened within a particular timeframe and could it be possible that while SAW III and SAW IV were happening at the same time. Could it be possible that SAW V happened immediately after SAW IV, and yet, Hoffman was able to get rid of all leads pointing to him and making it to the morgue to the autopsy? Because I can't see them just completely ignoring the recording John left for him.

 

[CrypticOne]

Hey everyone I have a very, very weird theory. I may need you to be patient with me because I'm not sure how to explain this.

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What if the recording for Hoffman is the real opener for SAW 6? What I'm trying to say is, what if the fifth film is more like a prequel and not so much of a sequel again? I imagine certain things happened within a particular timeframe and could it be possible that while SAW III and SAW IV were happening at the same time. Could it be possible that SAW V happened immediately after SAW IV, and yet, Hoffman was able to get rid of all leads pointing to him and making it to the morgue to the autopsy? Because I can't see them just completely ignoring the recording John left for him.

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Yeah, I feel the same way. I think John's autopsy is the beginning of SAW VI. It has to be. The events in this one, V, happened way quick. Plus, it would've shown when Hoffman went to the autopsy.

 

[Bunker]

Did they leave it open for a Saw VI?

 

[Symbiotic]

@Cryptic and Symbiote.

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Do you have any Gordon theories? I'm definitely thinking he's alive. His face wasn't shown in the flashback and I have a hard time believing that they can't show what happened to him despite the lawsuit. They can easily show a decomposed body in Jigsaw's lair or something. But I am starting to believe he's an apprentice or someone who is in hiding. Did you see the trail of blood in the basement? That definitely looked like a lot of blood and as far as I know, Detective Matthew's crushed foot couldn't have generated that much blood loss and Tapp was the only dead person in the hallway.

I am thinking Gordon dragged himself to an unknown location and hasn't been seen or heard from again. Either Jigsaw, Hoffman, or Amanda helped him or he actually escaped and got help for himself. We know EVERYONE in the house from the second film is dead, we know Eric, Rigg, Kerry, Amanda, Jeff, Lynn, and Jigsaw are dead, we know Tapp and obviously Sing is dead. Adam is dead, Strahm is dead, Perez is dead. So there's only Hoffman, Erickson, Jill, and Dr. Gordon left.

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Interesting thoery. I believe as well that Gordon could very well be alive. Where he's at is anyone's guess, but I wouldn't rule out that he took an apprentice position like you said.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Did they leave it open for a Saw VI?

Of course. It has been confirmed that they were going to do a sixth film when SAW V was in production.

 

[enterthemadness]

Hmmm..I've seen the first 3 in theaters. Is 4 and 5 as disturbing violent/bloody like 3 was? I probably buy a box set with all 6 films in it.

So, just to be clear....

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No clue on if Dr. Gordon is dead or not? I know Adam is dead, remember that from 3's flashback?

Anyhow, this is like the new Halloween/F13/Nightmare films....u get a new one almost every year.

 

[AMDodson]

I liked Saw V more than III and it was on the same level as IV.

III was my least favorite. II is my favorite because of Matthews/Jigsaw interaction. That was some awesome acting there.

And of course, SAW kicks all sorts of ass. I liked its simplicity. I hope VI is the final film and it all goes back to the beginning.

 

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

Is it just me, or did the actual games seem to be just filler for real story?

 

[Matt]

@Cryptic and Symbiote.

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Do you have any Gordon theories? I'm definitely thinking he's alive. His face wasn't shown in the flashback and I have a hard time believing that they can't show what happened to him despite the lawsuit. They can easily show a decomposed body in Jigsaw's lair or something. But I am starting to believe he's an apprentice or someone who is in hiding. Did you see the trail of blood in the basement? That definitely looked like a lot of blood and as far as I know, Detective Matthew's crushed foot couldn't have generated that much blood loss and Tapp was the only dead person in the hallway.

I am thinking Gordon dragged himself to an unknown location and hasn't been seen or heard from again. Either Jigsaw, Hoffman, or Amanda helped him or he actually escaped and got help for himself. We know EVERYONE in the house from the second film is dead, we know Eric, Rigg, Kerry, Amanda, Jeff, Lynn, and Jigsaw are dead, we know Tapp and obviously Sing is dead. Adam is dead, Strahm is dead, Perez is dead. So there's only Hoffman, Erickson, Jill, and Dr. Gordon left.

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What about Daniel? He is still alive. I'm not sure how he'd fit into the plot, but the same could be said about Doc Gordon.

 

[AMDodson]

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So, is Julie Benz alive or dead?

What do you think? I am incredibly sure their game has everything to do with the story, but will be fleshed out in SAW VI

 

[The Chris]

So, who liked this movie?

Me. Third fav in the series after 1 and 3.

 

[nocomics]

Is it just me, or did the actual games seem to be just filler for real story?

yes,and no. It just seemed like they were just filler stories,but like Saw II they served a purpose.
My personal opinion is SawV was like SawII in ways, group of ppl who had somethng in common who had to work together to survive,but they all did their own things,until the last two were alive.
I think Saw V,was a filler movie,it was about Hoffmans rise,him trying to keep his secrets,while testing those 5 individuals. I do think Jill has something yet to play in this,she does give off that 'evil vibe' at times.
I was just disappointed that it didn't have that big twist or that big 'shocking' moments.
Did anyone else notice the film looked grainy? I don't know if that was intentional or not?

 

[Matt]

yes,and no. It just seemed like they were just filler stories,but like Saw II they served a purpose.
My personal opinion is SawV was like SawII in ways, group of ppl who had somethng in common who had to work together to survive,but they all did their own things,until the last two were alive.
I think Saw V,was a filler movie,it was about Hoffmans rise,him trying to keep his secrets,while testing those 5 individuals. I do think Jill has something yet to play in this,she does give off that 'evil vibe' at times.
I was just disappointed that it didn't have that big twist or that big 'shocking' moments.
Did anyone else notice the film looked grainy? I don't know if that was intentional or not?

If Jill turns out to be evil and the true Jigsaw or whatever, I will be supremely disappointed. It will just be lazy writing.