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I'm eager to see if the huge success of that R rated movie might open the door for other R rated CB movies in the next years.
Sure, 300 is not a franchise, though there is sequel talk going on (horrible idea btw) but it's still a comic book movie (or graphic novel) and aimes at the same audience.
And "Hellboy 2" (certainly R rated, too) has a good chance to make the same money, after the decent first movie and with the hype around Del Torro adding to it.
 
I think after the success of 300 WB is taking note of this and trying to implement some of that production philosophy into a sequel.
Not so well known actors, a lot of green screen and naked men, a lot of digital blood and severed limbs and a fascistic sub-text?
I don't know if it will work for Superman.
 
But 300 is not a franchise. You can do another movie about the ancient wars, but you can be sure of its success. Rember Troy. Alexander or King Arthur.
Superman is a franchise, and with the right budget the sequel can guarantee a good profit.
right budget never guarantee a good movie/profit. right story does. and superman is just suffering for it since the making.
 
Not so well known actors, a lot of green screen and naked men, a lot of digital blood and severed limbs and a fascistic sub-text?

I don't know if it will work for Superman.

Is that humor I see coming from you. I have to say, I am floored. :cwink:
 
bump. Singerc comment that he wants to start filming in the summer of 2008 mean this will defiently be a holiday movie, unless they wait 2 full years between release start of filming. returns waited about 16 months.
 
WTF they're not even starting on the film until next year! So they got one year to make this movie.
 
Another tidbit from Chris Lee.

From dragondynasty.com:

March 06, 2007

FROM KRYPTON TO KOWLOON: THE SUPERHEROES ARE COMING.

Recently, Hong Kong has felt like a blend between Metropolis, Gotham City and the stylized New York seen in the classic Marvel comics. A crew flew here to shoot plate shots for the new Fantastic Four film, the next Batman flick, The Dark Knight, is set to film in Kowloon and I had lunch today with Superman Returns producer Chris Lee and friends. In fact, Hong Kong film-makers have long been willing to support the men in red-white-and-blue underwear. Local action directors have been drafted in to supply Hollywood comic book movies with Hong Kong style action, with Yuen Cheung-yan working on Daredevil and Corey Yuen on the first X-Men. Though not directly inspired by a comic book series, The Matrix, choreographed by Yuen Woo-ping, reflected that aesthetic in every frame. Given the above, it seems ironic that Hong Kong cinema has yet to deliver the definitive Chinese superhero movie. If any real-life movie actors move like comic book superheroes, it’s our Hong Kong action stars, and the city itself provides a suitably high tech locale. There have been a few attempts to create a Chinese superhero flick, but I would argue that no single film fully realized the potential of the concept. Back in the glory days of Shaw Brothers, kung fu stars Lo Lieh and Shih Szu gamely dressed up in red long johns to fight crime in riotously ridiculous Italian co-production ‘Supermen Against The Orient’. Johnnie To’s Heroic Trio, starring Anita Mui, Michelle Yeoh and Maggie Cheung, tells the story of three superheroines fighting in an unremittingly bleak future. Its sequel, Executioners, is grimmer still. Tsui Hark gave the Hong Kong superhero concept his best shot when he produced the mean, moody Black Mask. This kung fu fighting former super-soldier wore a Kato mask and hat, and was played by Jet Li, in the original, and by newcomer Andy On in a weird and wonderful Tsui-directed sequel. I remember sitting with Tsui at a mutual friend’s wedding, and him telling me his concept for a Batgirl movie. It sounded awesome, but I don’t think he ever got to pitch it to Warner Bros. Though Tsui’s Batgirl never flew, Michelle Yeoh’s Silver Hawk did. Director Jingle Ma got the kinetics of on-screen superhero action right, but the film’s goofy humour provided the wrong kind of ‘comic’. Hong Kong film-makers have occasionally channeled comic book imagery unintentionally. Kirk Wong’s Crime Story (coming soon to Dragon Dynasty) features a scene on an exploding roof-top which looks like it was story-boarded by the late, great Jack ‘King’ Kirby. Kirby co-created, with writer Stan Lee, most of the Marvel characters, including The Fantastic Four, The Hulk and The X-Men. His New Gods series, published by DC Comics, was an unacknowledged influence on Star Wars. (The bad guy is named Darkseid, the hero turns out to be Darkseid’s son, the good guys channel The Source… You get the idea.) One reason Hong Kong cinema has never quite gotten costumed superheroes right is that the heroes of local comic books are so different. Where American kids thrive on Superman and Batman, Cantonese youngsters devour imported Japanese manga (which rarely features costumed heroes) and locally produced titles from creators like Tony Wong and Ma Yuk-shing. The popularity of the manga called Riki Oh led Golden Harvest to produced an extravagantly violent film version, which has since acquired cult status worldwide. You can check out the most outrageous superheroics ever committed to film when Story Of Riki comes out on Dragon Dynasty. The local heroes created by Wong and Ma tended to be supernaturally-enhanced period swordsmen or contemporary martial arts masters. Infernal Affairs director Andrew Lau brought Ma Yuk-sing’s characters to the screen with great success in Storm Riders and A Man Called Hero. Tony Wong forged an alliance with veteran producer Raymond Wong. The latter developed a film version of the hit Jademan series Sword Searchers, but put it aside to focus on Dragon Tiger Gate movie. DTG is the longest running comic book in Hong Kong publishing history. Generations of kids have grown up on it, and my eldest son enjoys it today. The Dragon Tiger Gate movie was directed by Wilson Ip and Donnie Yen (who also stars). Though its heroes are not costumed superheroes in the established sense, they do manifest super powers due to their esoteric ‘chi’ development. The film captures the energy of comic book action as well as any Asian fantasy I’ve seen, and perhaps as well as any American one. The finale is, again unwittingly, Kirby-esque. Fans of The King will find much that is familiar with the huge Cubist monoliths of the bad guys lair. The action scenes also capture the intensity of four-colour fights. Characters a thrown the length of a church, and you feel the impact as they collide with stone that shatters beneath them. Needless to say, Dragon Tiger Gate is a Dragon Dynasty release, continuing our ‘Donnie Yen’ series after Kill Zone and Seven Swords. However, it’s still not a bona fide, definitive Hong Kong costumed ‘superhero’ movie. I have no doubt that, between them, Tsui Hark, Donnie Yen and sundry other local talents could cook one up. Maybe a displaced Shaolin Monk fighting crime on the Hong Kong streets, concealing his identity because he’s breaking the Temple’s laws, channeling the specific powers of ancient Chinese deities, fighting his arch foe, a high-tech Master Of The Flying Guillotine… Hmm. Where did I put Chris Lee’s number…?
Source: http://www.dragondynasty.com/blog/show/16
 
Ah, Retroman with those great article's I've never seen until he posts them. The things I've missed at this place. This sounds quite interesting. I think this would help keep Superman with a bright look. Didn't realize those films had used Honk Kong as well to film. A great Metropolis could be born out if it.
 
LOL, its sad but it seems like I know just about every word to the movie by now. I watch it at least 3-4 times a week. Not only for the movie but just because it looks so damn good on HD DVD and the sound is incredible too.
 
Now when the movie comes out and it's called Superman Stays, people will be complaining that they changed the name.
 
Earlier this month, it was reported that The Mayor of Castro Street producers Neil Meron and Craig Zadan said their Bryan Singer-directed film on gay rights activist Harvey Milk would be shot after Singer finishes filming Valkyrie. Not so fast, say the folks working on the Superman Returns sequel.

"That's total horse *****," said a source within Singer's camp for IESB.net. "I would say the same thing if I was producing that film but don't you realize that most of the 'Superman' producers are working with Bryan on 'Valkyrie'? Gil Adler and Chris Lee both are in Germany with Bryan and I can guarantee you that there is some work being done with 'Superman' right now."

The current plan is to start shooting the Superman Returns sequel by the summer of 2008.

:woot:
 
Hey all! :)

I can already see the pro-Singer fans embracing this news and the rest of us waiting to hear an official announcement from Warner Bros. rather than some Singer cronies.

Personally, although I think Superman Returns is atrocious, I am not totally averse to Singer returning IF he makes a good movie this time, because we know he can make a good movie.

But the questions remain:

1. Does Singer acknowledge there are a lot of people (including many Superman fans) who dislike Superman Returns?

2. Does Singer understand why so many dislike it?

3. Can he do anything about it...does Singer have it in him to make a Superman film the majority of people want to see?

4. Does Singer want to do anything about it...or plod on with the same tired formula?

5. Will Warner Bros. trust him a second time?

Hes already given Superman fans the 'bird' with Superman Returns, doing the sequel in the same manner is tantamount to flicking them the 'Vee's'!
 
1. Does Singer acknowledge there are a lot of people (including many Superman fans) who dislike Superman Returns?

Not really, he blames the marketing for SR not being a bigger hit.

2. Does Singer understand why so many dislike it?

Yeah, not enough action. Singer, Routh and Warner Bros have all promised more for the sequel.


3. Can he do anything about it...does Singer have it in him to make a Superman film the majority of people want to see?

He'll never be Michael Bay or Sam Raimi. He's really not a populist director. He's not an action director either.

Does Singer want to do anything about it...or plod on with the same tired formula?

Superman has always had the same formula. Except when Burton came in.

5. Will Warner Bros. trust him a second time?

Yes.
 
I just love it when people go around spouting opinion as fact. I for one, overall, liked Superman Returns. As with any movie there were a few things I had to take with a grain of salt, but overall, I enjoyed it and I for one do NOT feel as if Bryan gave me the finger. On the contrary, I feel as if I still owe him thanks for finally bringing Superman to the big screen in a way that was traditional and paid homage to the old movies and the comics, instead of all the tripe that was going around in the 90's and early 00's regarding a Superman movie.

THANK YOU BRYAN SINGER!

I look forward to his next installment.:supes:
 
I just love it when people go around spouting opinion as fact. I for one, overall, liked Superman Returns. As with any movie there were a few things I had to take with a grain of salt, but overall, I enjoyed it and I for one do NOT feel as if Bryan gave me the finger. On the contrary, I feel as if I still owe him thanks for finally bringing Superman to the big screen in a way that was traditional and paid homage to the old movies and the comics, instead of all the tripe that was going around in the 90's and early 00's regarding a Superman movie.

THANK YOU BRYAN SINGER!

I look forward to his next installment.:supes:

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