The Official Start/Release Date & Location Thread

[bgshw44]

i just dont think singer can do action. the shockwave was pathetic as well as the natural gas line fire. they had the same scene in live free or die hard which i saw today, and that was how it is suppose to be shot.

 

[GreenKToo]

I think Lex is a very kool character, just not the version in S.R.

 

[TheShadow]

Possibly. First I want to see if he gets to do it, and then what villain(s) he has planned before I pass judgement on him. who knows it could be spectacular, but of course it could also bomb as well.

But I think thats a chance a director always has to take when making a film. From the way he handled he action in x2, to the scale he went to with superman it was a smooth transition in my opinion. Im sure it will be great. I'm not one to pass judgment either. So as you, I'am waiting to see what singer has up his sleeve.

 

[TheShadow]

I think Lex is a very kool character, just not the version in S.R.

Same, though i do thank god that they shifted his character a tad darker then pervious films

 

[nintendo nerd]

I think Lex is a very kool character, just not the version in S.R.

I hope he'll have a small role if there's a SR sequel. We need a new villian.

 

[gimmen64]

Its great to see that we have so many people that love Superman. I can see we want a film that will bring back a hero that we all have grown to love and I love it. This is what makes such great movies, there were so many people that hated Transformers but it were not for us fans it would have been a mess. Lets keep this ideas coming and lets make sure that Singer and WB that we mean business!

 

[GreenKToo]

bgshw44:....I thought it had some great action, the plane rescue, lifting the yacht (My fav), and throwing N.K. The only problem I had with it, was it needed more action. perhaps one more big action scene would have made these debates mute.

 

[buggs0268]

I believe singer can, look at the x-men films. Superman returns had no super villains at all. so I dont think there was so much action lex could cause. It had more action then the original superman and on an epic scale. Im sure when he gets the chance at handling such baddies as metalo, doomsday, etc. he will have those big action sequences we all want.

I don't know about that. STM had:

1. Krypton Exploding.
2. Baby ship crash landing on earth.
3. a helicopter crash and him saving Lois and it
4. Him standing on the side of a building and then chasing after and catching a cat theif.
5. Catching bank burglers and then picking up their boat and leaving it in the middle of a street in Metropolis.
6. Lightning taking out an engine and part of a wing and him catching it and flying it back to safety. (which was redone pretty much in SR, just expanded)
7. him drilling though the ground and walking through a hallway full of bullets, flame throwers, and a freezing room.
8. Him chasing and catching one nuclear missle and sending it off to space.
9. Another one crashing into the San Andreas Fault and causing major destruction.
10. Him flying undeground and pushing the fault line back up to it's original position.
11. Saving a bus from falling off a serverly injured Golden gate bridge
12. Him stopping a train derailment.
13. Him saving a power plant
14. Him catching Jimmy from falling off of a breaking Hoover damn.
15. Him outrunning and then using a rockslide makeshift damn to stop a town from being whiped out from flood waters from said damn.
16. Lois being killed and him pulling her car out of a crevace.
17. Him turning back time to save lois.
18 delivering Lex to prison.

SR

1. A crashing ship back to earth (already done in STM so nothing new)
2. A plane in trouble (already done in SRM so nothing new, just expanded upon with a space shuttle)
3. Him stopping a bank robbery with a gatlin gun (done in STM twice with a bank robbery and a hall filled with machine guns)
4. Him catching a person on TV (done in STM)
5. Him blowing out a house fire on TV (short scene)
6. Him stopping a guy falling off of a crane (short scene)
7. catching a hotel sign (short scene)
8. using laser vision to stop glass (short scene)
9. stopping a gas fire (short scene)
10. pulling up a boat from sinking (not so impressive as it is just the actor standing on a set being lifted out of the water)
11. picking up a plane and heading it in the rigt direction
12. picking up New krypton

Lex Luthor isnt even caught by him, and runs out of gas on a beach. And except for having more action in STM, all of the scenes in it with exception of the plane rescue are much more expanded in STM than in SR, which a lot of them are relegated to a short 10 to 20 second shot on a TV screen.

 

[TheShadow]

Lets hope wb and them actually listen.

 

[TheShadow]

Rofl yeah thats the one thing i hate about superman returns is lex on the beach..im like wtf....

 

[GreenKToo]

Its hard to say, rumor has it spacey wants to retire from making films, but he already signed up for the S.R. sequels. so does that mean we'll see less of him??or will he do them first before he quits as a favor to singer, and still have a large role??

I hope he'll have a small role if there's a SR sequel. We need a new villian.

 

[buggs0268]

Rofl yeah thats the one thing i hate about superman returns is lex on the beach..im like wtf....

On a pork chop shaped island no less. I will never understand what the point of that was.

 

[TheShadow]

yeah he could've been in the florida area..but thats kind of far for a helicopter

 

[Rob-el]

This thread is based on the follwing...

"That's total horse s@#t, I would say the same thing if I was producing that film but don't you realize that most of the Superman producers are working with Bryan on Valkyrie? Gil Adler and Chris Lee both are in Germany with Bryan and I can guarantee you that there is some work being done with Superman right now."
So why would Neil Meron and Craig Zadan say the contrary? "It's their job as producers to keep that movie on their front burner, but really, Bryan's deal with Warner Bros. for the Superman sequel is already done and signed and that's the priority."

"I would say the same thing if I was producing that film..."
"It's their job as producers to keep that movie on their front burner..."

Just as it is this person in Singer's camp's job to keep Singer on the frontburner of a sequel and would say these things to do so.

The bottom line is that its been a year since SR came out and WB has had plently of time to green light a sequel and they have not. Singer's "deal" probably is part of his original one for SR but there are probably clauses that WB could excerise if they chose to to replace Singer if they wanted to. The producers he refer to may very well be with Singer but they are there for another movie , not SR. I'm not slamming Singer or SR (saw it 6 times in the theater)- I'm looking at the situation objectively

Bottm line is as I said its been a year and WB has not issued statements giving a green light to the sequel and that speaks volumes. Until they do, and the longer it takes, the more I am convinced taht WB is rethinking their Superman strategies.

 

[buggs0268]

This thread is based on the follwing...

"That's total horse s@#t, I would say the same thing if I was producing that film but don't you realize that most of the Superman producers are working with Bryan on Valkyrie? Gil Adler and Chris Lee both are in Germany with Bryan and I can guarantee you that there is some work being done with Superman right now."
So why would Neil Meron and Craig Zadan say the contrary? "It's their job as producers to keep that movie on their front burner, but really, Bryan's deal with Warner Bros. for the Superman sequel is already done and signed and that's the priority."

"I would say the same thing if I was producing that film..."
"It's their job as producers to keep that movie on their front burner..."

Just as it is this person in Singer's camp to keep Singer on the frontburner of a sequel and would say these things to do so.

The bottom line is that its been a year since SR came out and WB has had plently of time to green light a sequel and they have not. Singer's "deal" probably is part of his original one for SR but there are probably clauses that WB could excerise if they chose to to replace Singer if they wanted to. The producers he refer to may very well be with Singer but they are there for another movie , not SR. I'm not slamming Singer or SR (saw it 6 times in the theater)- I'm looking at the situation objectively

Bottm line is as I said its been a year and WB has not issued statements giving a green light to the sequel and that speaks volumes. Until they do, and the longer it takes, the more I am convinced taht WB is rethinking their Superman strategies.

Exactly, we are hearing more about JLA than SR. And what that indicates to me is that they are more interested in it than SR. But, when people started specualting on the net, it appears to me that the people in the WB on an SR2 camp started fighting back. We really don't know until the WB decides and writes the check. What I am seeing now is more of a power struggle within the WB similar to the Batman VS superman or Superman solo infighting.

 

[KaptainKrypton]

I hope to high heaven that Singer's camp gets the go-ahead and that the JLA movie is either shelved or done at least five years down the line. I'd take more stock in terms of Superman's status from any info thrown from Singer's camp as opposed to other producers comments who aren't even involved in that production. Even if it is just "insider information" from one of "Singer's close sources." Like I've been hearing Buggs comment on: It's very reminiscent of the Petersen/Ratner/McG days when it was almost a case of Batman and Superman having one film together. But, if the history of those events tells us anything, WB will see much more in terms of end-of-the-day profit if they stick with separate franchises (at least for the time being). Why have one franchise try to carry the load when you can have a handful of separate ones that still make you money? Besides, I've already beat it to death here and at a couple of other forums, but I still think someone should have their nuts kicked in for hiring the mental wizards who brought us Mr. and Mrs. Smith to script a JLA film. Then again, who knows? Maybe this JLA script is amazing. I doubt it, though.

 

[buggs0268]

I hope to high heaven that Singer's camp gets the go-ahead and that the JLA movie is either shelved or done at least five years down the line. I'd take more stock in terms of Superman's status from any info thrown from Singer's camp as opposed to other producers comments who aren't even involved in that production. Even if it is just "insider information" from one of "Singer's close sources." Like I've been hearing Buggs comment on: It's very reminiscent of the Petersen/Ratner/McG days when it was almost a case of Batman and Superman having one film together. But, if the history of those events tells us anything, WB will see much more in terms of end-of-the-day profit if they stick with separate franchises (at least for the time being). Why have one franchise try to carry the load when you can have a handful of separate ones that still make you money? Besides, I've already beat it to death here and at a couple of other forums, but I still think someone should have their nuts kicked in for hiring the mental wizards who brought us Mr. and Mrs. Smith to script a JLA film. Then again, who knows? Maybe this JLA script is amazing. I doubt it, though.

Because you have to spend the money on development and production of all those seperate franchises for heroes that might not catch in a solo effort. Look at how much money they have spent on failed The Flash and Wonder Woman projects. The time for superhero films is now. This could all turn around, expecially with so much Marvel property movies coming out. And Marvel can still partner with other studios if they want. Warner's cant. A JLA movie is the shortest distance to a few franchises. And SR didn't make the money they were looking for. And with Spiderman 3, it really looks bad.

 

[TheShadow]

JLA i think is just something to through around as a what if to the company i highly doubt it will ever get made

 

[buggs0268]

JLA i think is just something to through around as a what if to the company i highly doubt it will ever get made

They are looking for a director now. Some people think they have one and it is Peterson. That may be a rumor, but not the fact that they are looking for a director.

 

[Sebastos]

Great news, now lets hear some stuff of what's going on!

 

[Showtime]

I love Hollywood.

 

[buggs0268]

Superman has a way of screwing with the WB the way no other hero does. Batman doesn't have this problem.

 

[Eros]

Superman has a way of screwing with the WB the way no other hero does. Batman doesn't have this problem

ofcourse he does, its called Batman and Robin.

 

[buggs0268]

ofcourse he does, its called Batman and Robin.

I mean not causing any infighting or regime changes. Although he did stop Superman Lives, which was a good thing.

 

[Showtime]

and he lost all the magic and charm and wit and excitement of those films and went on only one thing "that Superman and Lois would have had a child from their sex in Suprman 2" Like I said, it was either on Entertainment Tonight, or Access Hollywood, but before Spacey was cast and there were rumors of him in talks for Lex, said (paraphrasing)-

"I am glad he is getting a chance to do Superman. I know that ever since I have known him, he would grab anyone on the set that would listen to him and tell them his idea for a sequel to Superman 2"

That was truly his only interest was to give Superman a son.

Where in the quote that you are paraphrasing does Spacey mention that Singer's idea all along was to give Superman a kid? You are providing misinformation, Singer's idea was to create a Returns story, he wanted to send Superman away somewhere for a number of years and then have him return to a world that has moved on without him. That was the idea he was passing around to Donner and others. The original idea then developed further when talking with Mike and Dan was to have Lois married with a child and through that idea it developed into Lois being unmarried with a child and then actually having the son be Superman's. Those are facts, not speculation.