The Official Superman Casting Thread

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I'm not sure why you'd think he'd go with previous actors. He really hasn't done it that much, and hadn't at all for the female side.

I'm not saying he would do that for every role (lol), but I do think we will see some of these actors. So to figure out at least some of the cast, I looked into actors he has worked with.

E.G.

Ken Watanabe (Inception-Batman Begins)
Michael Caine (Inception-The Prestige-Batman Begins-TDK)
Cillian Murphy (Inception-BB-TDK)
Christian Bale (Prestige-BB-TDK)

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Obviously these actors were in the Batman films, so I would leave them out from being in Man of Steel. So then I listed other actors he has worked with and what potential role may suit them. That's all.

 

[Daybreak_st]

I think he must have more range than his roles have shown to get the role. I see his natural personality as Jonny Storm, and he pretty much plays that character in all of his roles. So either they're going in a very different direction with the characterization for Cap or Evans can do more dramatic roles than we all realized.

 

[ChickenScratch]

The casts for BB and TDK were stacked. Everyone was a huge talent. Plus Nolan said he was going in a direction similar to how Donner casted Superman, which was also a stacked cast as well, Brando, Hackman, Beatty, Glen Ford, all big stars.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Heh heh, funny thing is that in the first manip thread on the hype, I actually opened it with a joke manip of "Zack" as Superman Though as I wrote in my Superman-v article (for those that remember that site) he could actually be an interesting choice. He never dropped the Zack stigma though.

 

[The ?ion]

I think he must have more range than his roles have shown to get the role. I see his natural personality as Jonny Storm, and he pretty much plays that character in all of his roles. So either they're going in a very different direction with the characterization for Cap or Evans can do more dramatic roles than we all realized.

But is that his actual character? That is just what we, as the audience, project on to him because of years and years of him playing Zack Morris. It is like trying to think of Mario Lopez as AC Slater, when in fact he has shown that he has little in common with that character.

 

[GreenKToo]

I'm confident and hopeful that the rebooted Supes film will be loaded with some serious talent. That's the least of my concerns.

 

[kalelkilla]

If Zack is cast as Superman I might leave the country.

What about Aiden Turner? Can he act with an American accent?

I don't know anything about his acting but he has the looks I would like for Superman.

 

[The ?ion]

Aiden Turner doesn't quite look like Clark, but he doesn't look so different that it wouldn't be impossible for him to look the part. But I can't say I have seen him in anything before.

 

[Daybreak_st]

But is that his actual character? That is just what we, as the audience, project on to him because of years and years of him playing Zack Morris. It is like trying to think of Mario Lopez as AC Slater, when in fact he has shown that he has little in common with that character.

I was talking about Chris Evans being cast as Captain America. I actually think Mark Paul Gosslarr could do a good job with Superman, that's why i suggested him

 

[Daybreak_st]

The casts for BB and TDK were stacked. Everyone was a huge talent. Plus Nolan said he was going in a direction similar to how Donner casted Superman, which was also a stacked cast as well, Brando, Hackman, Beatty, Glen Ford, all big stars.

i think it's funny everyone keeps talking about the great cast. DAredevil also had a all-star cast for the time period: Ben Affleck, Jennifer Garner, Collin Ferrel, Michael Clark Duncan, and look at how that turned out.

 

[Alonsovich]

instead of Farrell it was Gyhnenhall or however you spell is name

Gyllenhaal was for BB... not for BvS... the final three for the BB casting were Bale, Gyllenhaal and Eion Bailey, he was under consideration by Nolan and was Goyer's favorite. Farrell was pretty much locked as Bats for Petersen.

 

[The ?ion]

I was talking about Chris Evans being cast as Captain America. I actually think Mark Paul Gosslarr could do a good job with Superman, that's why i suggested him

I see now. You were responding to Kalekilla even though your post appeared right after mine.

 

[Alonsovich]

Ken Watanabe as Brainiac?

 

[Comics N' Toons]

yeah... i can't really see a skirt-chasing, wisecracking party dude Captain America working on film or in the comics

 

[SuperMike335!!]

SINCE WE SEEM TO BE TALKING ABOUT CAPTAIN AMERICA IN A SUPERMAN THREAD... don't you guys think that Chris Evans is a bit too short or scrawny. Yeah okay he's ripped but he needs serious muscle.

Maybe he could do what Chris Reeve did and put on like 30 pounds of muscle.

I do not think he needs to gain 30 pounds, that is a LOT of muscle. Sure it weighs more than fat per volume, but only by about 12.7% more. One pound of muscle is about as large as a 16 oz steak.

That being said 10 pounds of muscle would do, and he may be able to do that in 3 months before filming, IF he is not near his bodies upper limit for muscle growth already.

For a natural bodybuilder who is already developed, for example, it can take 2 years to gain 10 pounds, and that is if they are doing GOOD.

These days 30 pounds of muscle does not happen in 3 months for an actor, unless the cross a legal line.

It did back in the 1980's, before the ASCA of 1989.

I know everyone wants to think Bale gaining 80 pounds from the Machinist to BB, and even post pictures to demonstrate the difference. They never think to consider that this may not just be eggs, chicken breast, oats and hard work in the gym. Sure he would have to do all that too, but those things alone will not give you or anyone 80 pounds of lean body mass in that short a time. Not unless Androgenic Anabolic Steroids are involved.

Yeah, he gained 80 pounds over night. With puffy skin, bachne, and there could even be some eveidence that he gained a hot temper too.

Not saying Bale did not gain 80 pounds. Only that in the UK steroids are not treated like they are in the USA. Sure they are not legal, but they are easier to get there than in the USA, and many of the Authorities look the other way so long as nobody is dealing to kids.

Sort of a "yes they are illegal, but if its for personal use and your not dealing to kids we are not going to waste time keeping your nuts from shrinking. Don't break the law, but if you do use at your own risk."

So, is it possible to gain 30 pounds of muscle in under 3 months? Yes, but ONLY with Androgenic Anabolic Steroids, of which I believe Christian Bale HAS used.

While I would not suggest anyone break the law, I do admire Bale's dedication to a role. Even if that means he has to push the limits of his health. I mean, if a guy is willing to starve himself near to death is it really that unreasonable to think he may also take another health risk to look a different way for another role?

 

[ChickenScratch]

i think it's funny everyone keeps talking about the great cast. DAredevil also had a all-star cast for the time period: Ben Affleck, Jennifer Garner, Collin Ferrel, Michael Clark Duncan, and look at how that turned out.

Yes, DD did have a great cast. But Nolan referenced Superman's cast, not DD's, plus he is working on Superman. In this case DD is a whole other issue that I'm sure didn't even pop into Nolan's mind ... or mine for that matter till you brought it up.

 

[Lightning54SC]

Steve

if this guy can act im gonna say its should come down to him or the guy who played Colossus in Singers Xmen

 

[The ?ion]

This is a SUPERMAN casting thread. Can we please stop talking about Chris Evan and Captain America (unless somebody is actually suggesting Chris Evan for a role in the upcoming Superman film)? Seriously. I don't mind side tracked conversations that go a bit off topic. That is normal. But there is an entire forum WITH threads, specifically for Captain America and the Captain America film. Keep the conversation on the topic folks.

 

[SuperMike335!!]

if this guy can act im gonna say its should come down to him or the guy who played Colossus in Singers Xmen

Like...This guy t::

I still think they should take a wide range of Auditions. Cudmore is my favorite right now, but if someone better comes a long, then so be it.

 

[The ?ion]

Perhaps it is that particular haircut and all the scruff, and the fact that he isn't that built, but I am not convinced of Cudmore's ability to fill the role.

 

[Immortalfire]

We have a forum and thread for Captain America casting (even a specific Chris Evans thread)..if you want to discuss that, then please go to that thread.

Otherwise, in here..stick with the Man of Steel.

'fire

 

[db85usa]

I get the point of the thread but, it's obvious it's turned into another casting thread. Other than Michael Caine and Christian Bale, Christopher Nolan hasn't used the same actors again and again so I don't know where people get their information? Another note, if Christopher Nolan is a "Godfather" for the film, i.e. a producer, then it easily leads me to believe that his brother Jonathan will make his directorial debut with this project. It makes perfect sense.

As a producer, Christopher Nolan may or may not have some control in the direction in terms of casting. The man does have Hollywood contacts and can throw in some suggestions, that's a given. Inevitably, it will be up to who is the director (Jonathan Nolan.) The idea of working with people you've worked with before is good and all and makes things less tiresome -- that may work on any other film but this is Superman and Christopher Nolan wants to cast the way they did in 1978. We will see familiar faces (actors) in unfamiliar roles. Whether or not these actors will have ties to Christopher Nolan is anyone's guess.

 

[SuperMike335!!]

Perhaps it is that particular haircut and all the scruff, and the fact that he isn't that built, but I am not convinced of Cudmore's ability to fill the role.

Ability to fill the role is why they do screen tests. His stunt acting experience is a huge plus as well. I think he would do well there, and he is looking for more challenging roles. I think he mentions that in one of these interviews:

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But Cudmore isn't that built? He is the most built of any of the suggestions, well besides bodybuilders, but he is not a bodybuilder. Here is the original pic:

http://hotink.theorem.ca/system/cord/images/000/008/352/DanielCudmore_large.jpg

I did not enhance the musculature of his arms, and used another shirtless picture of him for reference of the chest and abbs. He is pretty jacked. He just has the kind of structure that makes his muscles disappear in clothing that is not skin tight.

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8513/danielcudmorepremier.jpg

Here is a manip with:

The scruff removed and a different haircut. Body this time was Reeve, used for the suit, and haircut. Face, Jawline, ears are all Cudmore's. I added more eyebrows as he has very thin eyebrows, and that is something a makeup team would also do.

I think what is difficult is that we all imagine Superman looking differently, but he looks a lot like what I imagine him to look like, and what I imagine he would look like the way guys like John Byrne and Curt Swan drew Superman looking like.

 

[db85usa]

Ability to fill the role is why they do screen tests. His stunt acting experience is a huge plus as well. I think he would do well there, and he is looking for more challenging roles. I think he mentions that in one of these interviews:


But Cudmore isn't that built? He is the most built of any of the suggestions, well besides bodybuilders, but he is not a bodybuilder. Here is the original pic:


I did not enhance the musculature of his arms, and used another shirtless picture of him for reference of the chest and abbs. He is pretty jacked. He just has the kind of structure that makes his muscles disappear in clothing that is not skin tight.


Here is a manip with:

The scruff removed and a different haircut. Body this time was Reeve, used for the suit, and haircut. Face, Jawline, ears are all Cudmore's. I added more eyebrows as he has very thin eyebrows, and that is something a makeup team would also do.


I think what is difficult is that we all imagine Superman looking differently, but he looks a lot like what I imagine him to look like, and what I imagine he would look like the way guys like John Byrne and Curt Swan drew Superman looking like.

I think people get the point that you want to see Daniel Cudmore get a screen test. I do too. I think the search for the actor to play the Man of Steel needs to be broad and have lots of depth (a big list of actors to audition for the role.) I think Cudmore looks pretty good for his size but that's about it. The face, I have difficulty seeing it for some reason as do other people. IF it comes down these three factors: acting, look, size -- then I'd give Armie Hammer an edge over Cudmore when it comes to fan suggestions.

Overall, I'd still go with Harmon Walsh though because I'm bias and he is more of a 'complete unknown'

 

[Alonsovich]

And at the end it will be none of the ones mentioned often in this thread... I still say... look at the leftovers of Cap plus a pair of other TV series' actors and pick the one you like the most... that's the list WB is looking at.