The Official Thread For: Harry Potter & The Order Of The Phoenix

[SapphirePrima]

At least they showed Kreacher. I can't wait for the house-elf invasion.

Yes that should be pretty funny. Yet epic at the same time.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I was under the impression Rowling had everything planned out since she started writing the series. So, yes, I would say it would have been important then.

umm dude she had hardly any clue how she was gonna tie things up in deathly hallows... she had a very hard time writing it. so main story lay out .. possibly.. but depth? and everything ? no

 

[spideyboy_1111]

And my impression was right.

spccbflo asks: Everything that happens has a meaning, sometimes in a later book. Do you have everything planned out in your head, or do you tie things in as you go?
jkrowling_bn: Yes, it's all planned out, but I still give myself room to have some fun if a good idea
jkrowling_bn: arrives while I'm writing

http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2000/1000-livechat-barnesnoble.html

AND another:

Fry: Is it really true that you've got it [the end of the story] all planned out?

Rowling: Yes, I do know what's going to happen in the end. And occasionally I get cold shivers when someone guesses at something that's very close, and then I panic and I think "Oh, is it very obvious?" and then someone says something that's so off the wall that I think "No, it's clearly not that obvious!"

http://www.hpana.com/news.19160.html

that was also 2005 ....

 

[Da Docta]

Are you Rowling? No. I have given you cold hard evidence. You're just spouting what you think she did.

Honestly, read the books before you start this...

 

[Da Docta]

that was also 2005 ....

Uh...so? She says it's ALL PLANNED OUT. Snapes loyalty, everything. It doesn't matter what date it is. She could have said it in 1997 for all I care.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

your bi+(hing this much over green eyes.........................................

seriously....

 

[SapphirePrima]

your bi+(hing this much over green eyes.........................................

seriously....

There's no reason to insult him.

 

[Da Docta]

No I'm *****ing about your continual insistence that you know what you're talking about. And, quite frankly, you don't. I couldn't care less about the eyes. Also, way to abandon our argument.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

i didnt call him anything...

 

[spideyboy_1111]

No I'm *****ing about your continual insistence that you know what you're talking about. I couldn't care less about the eyes. And, quite frankly, you don't. Also, way to abandon out argument.

are you rowling? because you seem to know all... just because she said she has all planned out in 2005 doesnt mean she didn't add some and take away some either... it'd be moronic to think that

 

[Da Docta]

I never denied that and never will. However, what's there is there. I would rather go by what she says than what YOU think she has done.

 

[Da Docta]

umm dude she had hardly any clue how she was gonna tie things up in deathly hallows... she had a very hard time writing it. so main story lay out .. possibly.. but depth? and everything ?no

What do you have to support this? Your inherent connection with J.K. Rowling?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

well ive been reading news for a while on yahoo, and she's stated she's had a hard time writting the final book.. and wrapping it up soo its most likely a lil bit of both.. im sure she had the general idea of story.. but coming from a creative mind myself, the means of which the story progressed would not be all planned out

 

[Da Docta]

"Hard time writing" could mean that it was tedious.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

and tedious would mean she had to think and come up with things so ya im sure the story was planned out, but a little thing like green eyes meaning something.. most likely not.


plus when writting the first book she never could have imagined the success... and the first movie was not made in 2005... so movie harry hasn't had green eyes for a long time

 

[Da Docta]

and tedious would mean she had to think and come up with things so ya im sure the story was planned out, but a little thing like green eyes meaning something.. most likely not.

Or, you know, tedious meaning tedious? As in writing 600 pages tedious?

And do you even know the significance of the green eyes? I bet not.

plus when writting the first book she never could have imagined the success... and the first movie was not made in 2005... so movie harry hasn't had green eyes for a long time

Success has nothing to do with it. The story was ALL PLANNED OUT!!!! Four books have passed since the 1st movie was made.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

either way man... she has say of what she deems important for the movies... so if she doesnt deem it important, whether you think it is or not, it's her call

 

[chaseter]

either way man... she has say of what she deems important for the movies... so if she doesnt deem it important, whether you think it is or not, it's her call

He speaks the truth...whoever disagrees is smoking the whacky tobaccy

Rowling knows and allows or denys what goes into these movies. She is a big contributor.
She specifically made Kreacher be in this for his importance in book 7.

 

[BloodyWolverine]

Yeah Rawling lets some things go but things she wants most in the movies i imagine they take her advise. They don't want Rawling pissed teh perosn who own teh rights to Potter pissed.

As for any book series. An auther has and idea or a begining and an end. The rest in between is changible in order to get to the very end. No author has a whole book series figured out before the even write another book to the series. The have general ideas but no actual event by event telling.

 

[danoyse]

Rowling knows and allows or denys what goes into these movies. She is a big contributor.
She specifically made Kreacher be in this for his importance in book 7.

She also convinced Helena Bonham Carter to take the Bellatrix LeStrange role in OotP because she promised Bellatrix would have more to do in the later stories. And she does.

 

[Grievous]

I give it a 6, I thought it was not one of there best.

 

[PowersOfMind]

either way man... she has say of what she deems important for the movies... so if she doesnt deem it important, whether you think it is or not, it's her call

This is the truth. I remember her saying that part of thedeal was that she be able to have input on what was in the films and so forth. That was part of the contract she signed with WB.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

your bi+(hing this much over green eyes.........................................

seriously....

And rightly so, since hes read the final book, hed know that harrys eye colour turned out to be very important.

You should stop.

 

[PowersOfMind]

Well in the films they made Harry's eyes blue. So the significance of his eye color can still be done. They never stressed the fact of his eyes color in the previous films. I know it the previous books each character would say he had eyes just like his mother but none of theat was ever brought up in the films.

 

[Da Docta]

either way man... she has say of what she deems important for the movies... so if she doesnt deem it important, whether you think it is or not, it's her call

I find it cute for you to be pointing this out after you have hurled speculation after speculation on what you think the woman is going through. For instance:

she had hardly any clue how she was gonna tie things up in deathly hallows... she had a very hard time writing it. so main story lay out .. possibly.. but depth? and everything ? no

As for any book series. An auther has and idea or a begining and an end. The rest in between is changible in order to get to the very end. No author has a whole book series figured out before the even write another book to the series. The have general ideas but no actual event by event telling.

EXACTLY! She had the underlying story grasped through her head. This means it's pointless to doubt whether she knew the significance of the eyes would play a part by the time she made the fourth book. She knew she would eventually have to kill or give Snape a reprieve. So by the time the first movie was made she knew that the eyes would have to play a part in the movie (IF she was going to kill Snape). Did the eyes play a part in the movies? No. Did she know it would have been important? Yes, if she had decided to kill off Snape. This is what I'm trying to get through this boy's head. He thinks Rowling realized the eyes would have been important AFTER the first movie:

duh, im talking about continuity... when the first movie was made it prob wasnt a big deal if he had green eyes or not... plus you dont want him looking like jessica alba did in F4:ROTSS

He speaks the truth...whoever disagrees is smoking the whacky tobaccy

Rowling knows and allows or denys what goes into these movies. She is a big contributor.
She specifically made Kreacher be in this for his importance in book 7.

This is the truth. I remember her saying that part of thedeal was that she be able to have input on what was in the films and so forth. That was part of the contract she signed with WB.

Look back through the posts, NOBODY ever denied what you're saying.

I'm done; this argument is pointless.