The Official Tom Welling Thread

[The Sage]

No comment.

LOL

 

[Serene]

The consequences of an unknown, not that many pics to choose from. Must be what Reeve went through back in the 70's.

I keep seeing you say this, Sage, but honestly, I don't remember hearing any flack about Reeve being cast way back when. Maybe I just didn't hear about it, as you've pointed out, no internet back then (only stone tablets) but even at that age I was always pretty tuned in to popular entertainment, particularly movies.

Is there something you've read that indicated a backlash against Reeve's casting in the 70's?

 

[The Sage]

I keep seeing you say this, Sage, but honestly, I don't remember hearing any flack about Reeve being cast way back when. Maybe I just didn't hear about it, as you've pointed out, no internet back then (only stone tablets) but even at that age I was always pretty tuned in to popular entertainment, particularly movies.

Is there something you've read that indicated a backlash against Reeve's casting in the 70's?

Nothing I read, but from someone I talked to who was around when Reeve was cast. The mod C. Lee. He says there was a lot of backlash and doubt when the first pictures of Reeve in the newspaper came out. They were some horrible pictures too.

 

[jas01724]

Goofy Clark Kent!

*cough*

 

[AgentPat]

This thread is hysterical. I was wondering how long it would be before other Superman candidates were brought up for comparisons. Again! The official announcement of Routh was made weeks ago, yet the casting wars continue. Heh!

I SERIOUSLY hope Warners is paying attention.

Carry on folks; it's entertaining.

One of the best drawings of Superman I know outside the comics.
Along with Reeve, Welling is and will always be Superman to me.​

 

[The Sage]

Hey, I wasn't the one who introduced Routh or JC to the threads.

 

[The Sage]

One of the best drawings of Superman I know outside the comics.
Along with Reeve, Welling is and will always be Superman to me.​

I don't know why, but that picture really isn't convincing to me. It actually unconvinces me that Welling could be Superman. It looks...not right.

 

[triplet]

I actually see more of a Superman look in this pic

Than any of the Welling pics he posted

I totally disagree, but I think it's pointless to agrue further. You're not going to convince me and probably a lot of people on this thread.

In a way I can kinda see what you mean in regards to Routh, but for me you lose any footing you may have gained when you claim he's more suitable for the part than Welling looks wise.

It's not just 'cause I'm a TW fan, I am and I will grant that has probably biased me to some extent, but because he's just so average compared to Welling. You said so yourself, I believe, a few posts back.

Yeah, I guess he's handsome enough but he doesn't have that little extra something about him that Superman should have. A magnetism, a presence, that I feel TW has in spades.

Granted again: it could be there, since I've only seen a very few photos of Routh, but right now I don't see it.

But this is the whole reason why I'm now very lukewarm on the project: I'm not crazy about Routh for Superman. He just isn't close enough in look for me to what Superman should look like.

He looks more like Dean Cain than Chris Reeve anyway, IMO. His coloring is more like Reeve's but he lacks Reeve's sharply defined features. His nose is more rounded and his cheekbones don't have the same definition.

He's got a great chin and jawline for Supes, and that's probably the most Superman like quality he has. The cleft chin and the squareness of his jaw work well for that, but for me everything comes back to his eyes: They're just too dark.

I know that they'll use contacts or paint them blue using CG, or use some combination of both, but I just don't know how realistic that will look.

With Welling and JC, at least, even if their eyes aren't the sky blue you'd like to see with Supes, their eyes are a lot lighter and would have taken a lot less work to adjust the color to suit.

In a practical matter, having Routh wear heavy blue contacts for long periods filming an action movie will be difficult.

The color will have to be more opaque to cover up the brown in his eyes, TW and JC would have had a more transparent color in their contacts (had they even been necessary), and it would probably obscure part of his vision. That will be very hard on him and, I'm no expert on this, but I would think it might even compromise his safety.

 

[JcDc]

Goofy Clark Kent!

*cough*

Still looks like an A&F model. His look is not average enough for a distinction in the identities. With Routh he should be able to look dynamic as Supes

And back to more average as Clark

 

[jas01724]

Still looks like an A&F model. His look is not average enough for a distinction in the identities.

I forgive you for missing that I was making a joke - it wasn't supposed to be a good Clark Kent manip. I actually made that manip over a year ago because a friend and I simply wanted to see Tom in glasses. I reiterate: TOM in glasses, not Tom as Clark. My friend did sexy Tom, I did goofy Tom...

 

[The Sage]

I totally disagree, but I think it's pointless to agrue further. You're not going to convince me and probably a lot of people on this thread.

In a way I can kinda see what you mean in regards to Routh, but for me you lose any footing you may have gained when you claim he's more suitable for the part than Welling looks wise.

It's not just 'cause I'm a TW fan, I am and I will grant that has probably biased me to some extent, but because he's just so average compared to Welling. You said so yourself, I believe, a few posts back.

Yeah, I guess he's handsome enough but he doesn't have that little extra something about him that Superman should have. A magnetism, a presence, that I feel TW has in spades.

Granted again: it could be there, since I've only seen a very few photos of Routh, but right now I don't see it.

But this is the whole reason why I'm now very lukewarm on the project: I'm not crazy about Routh for Superman. He just isn't close enough in look for me to what Superman should look like.

He looks more like Dean Cain than Chris Reeve anyway, IMO. His coloring is more like Reeve's but he lacks Reeve's sharply defined features. His nose is more rounded and his cheekbones don't have the same definition.

He's got a great chin and jawline for Supes, and that's probably the most Superman like quality he has. The cleft chin and the squareness of his jaw work well for that, but for me everything comes back to his eyes: They're just too dark.

I know that they'll use contacts or paint them blue using CG, or use some combination of both, but I just don't know how realistic that will look.

With Welling and JC, at least, even if their eyes aren't the sky blue you'd like to see with Supes, their eyes are a lot lighter and would have taken a lot less work to adjust the color to suit.

In a practical matter, having Routh wear heavy blue contacts for long periods filming an action movie will be difficult.

The color will have to be more opaque to cover up the brown in his eyes, TW and JC would have had a more transparent color in their contacts (had they even been necessary), and it would probably obscure part of his vision. That will be very hard on him and, I'm no expert on this, but I would think it might even compromise his safety.

You're right...you're no expert.

Just kidding.

We'll see, they could use CGI. Have you seen Titanic? The way the blue eyes of the girl and old woman who played Rose matched? That was CGI I believe.

 

[triplet]

You're right...you're no expert.

Just kidding.

We'll see, they could use CGI. Have you seen Titanic? The way the blue eyes of the girl and old woman who played Rose matched? That was CGI I believe.

Really? I guess we'll see but CGI might not be any better than contacts.

Daniel Radcliffe has brilliant blue eyes and TPTB originally tried contacts to turn his eyes Harry Potter green, but he couldn't tolerate contacts for some reason. Then they tried to CG his eyes green and it didn't look realistic so they gave up.

That's how we got a blue-eyed Harry Potter.

Will those same kinds of problems give us a brown eyed Superman? I hope not.

 

[The Sage]

Really? I guess we'll see but CGI might not be any better than contacts.

Daniel Radcliffe has brilliant blue eyes and TPTB originally tried contacts to turn his eyes Harry Potter green, but he couldn't tolerate contacts for some reason. Then they tried to CG his eyes green and it didn't look realistic so they gave up.

That's how we got a blue-eyed Harry Potter.

Will those same kinds of problems give us a brown eyed Superman? I hope not.

Let's hope not. We've already had one brown eyed Supes, I think. What color were George Reeves's eyes?

 

[jas01724]

Have you seen Titanic? The way the blue eyes of the girl and old woman who played Rose matched? That was CGI I believe.

Nope, they deliberately cast Gloria Stewart because her eyes were so close to Kate's.

 

[The Sage]

Nope, they deliberately cast Gloria Stewart because her eyes were so close to Kate's.

Really? I heard something different. Oh well, there goes that theory. LOL

What about Mystique's eyes in X-Men?

 

[JcDc]

Let's hope not. We've already had one brown eyed Supes, I think. What color were George Reeves's eyes?

most of the time black and white, of course when the show went to color you noticed his stomach being bigger more than his eye color

 

[Serene]

Goofy Clark Kent!

*cough*

His "goofy" is still pretty hot.

 

[JcDc]

The belt got higher and higher

 

[MJZ]

Hey, I wasn't the one who introduced Routh or JC to the threads.

Oh really?

Not only Schneider, but JC as well.

Naturally I took it from there .

 

[jas01724]

Really? I heard something different. Oh well, there goes that theory. LOL

I'm sure they did a little post-prod touching up, but they matched the eyes as best they could when they were casting. Very distinctive eyes.

What about Mystique's eyes in X-Men?

No idea, I was never *cough*obsessed*cough* with X-Men.

 

[The Sage]

Oh really?



Naturally I took it from there .

Hey I said JC, that could mean a lot of things.

 

[The Sage]

I'm sure they did a little post-prod touching up, but they matched the eyes as best they could when they were casting. Very distinctive eyes.

Ahh, ok.

No idea, I was never *cough*obsessed*cough* with X-Men.

Crap, I wish I had the X-Men DVD. Oh well.

 

[jas01724]

Hey I said JC, that could mean a lot of things.

Yup, I thought you were talking about the late and revered John Candy...

 

[JcDc]

What happened to his suit here ?????

LOL

Sorry I'll stop with Reeves pics

 

[The Sage]

Yup, I thought you were talking about the late and revered John Candy...

Or maybe even Jimmy Carson himself...