The Positive Thread

[Dark Raven]

Hmmm I really want to see the costumes!

Anyway, I hope the movie turns out to be great! Make it happen Fox!

That's what Kate Mara says every day.

 

[JP]

http://instagram.com/p/pmTWBCR_Hk/#

http://www.justjaredjr.com/2014/06/...while-filming-with-jamie-bell-in-baton-rouge/


Bell is looking pretty big compared to his usual frame.

 

[JP]

Some images of Teller from the beginning of the month…

 

[Smilodon]

I hope that's Teller working out for FF and not Divergent or whatever the sequel for that thing is.

I know I'm in the minority but I'm pretty positive about this entire film. It's been hushed up and delayed a bit but it's getting rolling and the actors for this film are all stellar (I think Fox is gonna pull another FC again with their castings of Kebbel and Teller, esp. with Whiplash on its way out for Teller.) I have faith in Trank and I hope him and Vaughn prevent Kinberg from dishing out any crap because early drafts of the DOFP script were apparently terrible.

I think this will be another FC situation. Or at least, I hope it is. I know UFF isn't everyone's favorite by far but I think this film will be pretty interesting, for better or worse.

 

[JP]

That's from the first week of June.. he's currently filming FF… That's how he'll look in this film.

 

[justanotherguy]

Figured I'd post filming updates in here since everything in the other thread gets twisted around.

@McKenzie_Dixon: Fake "New York" for the filming of a scene in Fantastic Four tomorrow
PICS: https://***********/McKenzie_Dixon/status/480180403337052161/photo/1

they're currently filming the new #fantasticfour movie outside my hotel!

http://instagram.com/p/pgroyBmyQX/#

Turning downtown Baton Rouge into Brooklyn, NYC. #HollyRouge #FantasticFour

http://instagram.com/p/pgd1mAQRvH/#

That is the Shaw Center for the Arts building in Baton Rouge, with the PJ's coffee right in the center of it. If look at every movie filmed in Baton Rouge recently, the same square mile is used over and over again. As a resident of Baton Rouge, this will certainly take me out of the film a bit.

 

[JP]

Haha, as a resident of NYC I'm always taken out of films when they show me "NYC" that isn't the NYC I know.

 

[StarkTheProdigy]

Although the direction of this seems questionable, I'm interested in where this movie takes these characters. Who knows, could be something fresh.

 

[Krystal]

You guys win.
All the open minded folks who wanted to give this movie a chance have been vindicated.

It will be a "FOUND FOOTAGE" movie.

Boom! So cool. What pretty much everybody wanted from this franchise all along has come to pass.

A "found footage" version of the Fantastic Four

This is going to take off now.


http://www.**************.com/fansites/Edwardo2K14/news/?a=102621

 

[EssayM]

You guys win.
All the open minded folks who wanted to give this movie a chance have been vindicated.

It will be a "FOUND FOOTAGE" movie.

Boom! So cool. What pretty much everybody wanted from this franchise all along has come to pass.

A "found footage" version of the Fantastic Four

This is going to take off now.


http://www.**************.com/fansites/Edwardo2K14/news/?a=102621

Read it again. She says it will have the FEEL of a found-footage movie, not that it actually will be one. That could mean any number of things, many of them having nothing to do with the cinematography. My guess is she's either saying it will have a similar tone to Chronicle or that it will have a more raw feel to it, both of which you might recognize as the exact same things everyone else involved with this movie has been saying.

Sheesh, some people really like to get worked up over nothing.

 

[JP]

This is the positive thread, not the "look how catty I can be!" thread…

 

[EssayM]

This is the positive thread, not the "look how catty I can be!" thread…

Sorry. Didn't mean it to come off that way.

 

[Rike]

Ignoring the Krystal troll...

Fox's production president Emma Watts on "The Fantastic Four" reboot:

Are you concerned there will be superhero burnout at some point?

Not so far. Certainly the audience seems to still be really enjoying it. We're making a big bet for 2015 with The Fantastic Four and director Josh Trank. To me, the key is the originality of the filmmakers and the choices they make. Josh is another really interesting example, who is using the vision he gave us in Chronicle to reinvent a franchise he's loved his whole life. It's not that you can't make original ideas -- you can, and we did it with Chronicle. The director is the key to not letting superhero movies go stale. That's the truth.

Will the Fantastic Four reboot have any of the same found-footage feel that Chronicle did?

It's Josh, so it can't not have that feel. That's his talent, that's what he does, and that's what excites him about it. It is a really interesting young cast [Michael B. Jordan, Miles Teller, Kate Mara and Jamie Bell], and he is the magnet that's brought them all together.

 

[Dasher10]

Read it again. She says it will have the FEEL of a found-footage movie, not that it actually will be one. That could mean any number of things, many of them having nothing to do with the cinematography. My guess is she's either saying it will have a similar tone to Chronicle or that it will have a more raw feel to it, both of which you might recognize as the exact same things everyone else involved with this movie has been saying.

Sheesh, some people really like to get worked up over nothing.

This. There is no way to put the FF on the big screen unless Fox does something really different with it. The Superhero genre is crowded and being generic is the surest way to fail. Look at the diminishing returns of the Spider-Man franchise. Spider-Man right now is falls into no box other than, "superhero" and as a result, it felt soulless. Looking at what Disney was doing with Captain America as a spy flick and what Fox did with a time travel X-Men film.

Wanting Fantastic Four to be a superhero film with all sorts of slapstick and cheese is what held the Tim Story films back. The difference is between thinking that you know what you want and what you actually want. For instance, knowing that Fox is doing a Fantastic Four film based on real world robotics and astrophysics is something that hasn't been done yet. More importantly, it not only grounds both Doctor Doom and the FF as something we can relate to but it also taps into the fandom for Cosmos.

Now think of all the fun that the Fantastic Four could have exploring things like String Theory, antimatter, faster than light travel, multiversal theory, etc. That's a whole new world that wouldn't feel right with any other CBM. I mean, what other franchise can have in depth explorations of the nature of reality as a CORE theme? Even in a franchise with more sci-fi series like Iron Man or Superman, these kinds of themes would feel like the filmmakers were trying too hard to be sophisticated. With the Fantastic Four, solving problems with theoretical physics is literally the entire purpose of the team.

Also, the found footage feel is something that CBMs haven't tapped into yet. The idea of the FF filming their origin and either performing experiments with cosmic rays or taking a journey into the Negative Zone only to find that they have all sorts of crazy powers. Scientists always keep records and Johnny Storm as the brother-in-law cracking jokes behind the camera while Reed explains just exactly what they're working with is fresh, it's new and it hasn't been done before. The big set pieces can be saved for the sequel once the origin is out of the way and the brand is re-established.

I mean, the Fantastic Four getting powers and then deciding to fight evil on day one would just feel rushed. I'd rather they take time to run experiments on themselves first and have Doctor Doom be built up as a villain before he changes into an anti-hero. I'd rather see a Silver Surfer spin-off before Galactus comes to Earth. I want a small, intimate origin before the Fantastic Four become established as heroes.

 

[JP]

Sorry. Didn't mean it to come off that way.

Not you.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

This. There is no way to put the FF on the big screen unless Fox does something really different with it. The Superhero genre is crowded and being generic is the surest way to fail. Look at the diminishing returns of the Spider-Man franchise. Spider-Man right now is falls into no box other than, "superhero" and as a result, it felt soulless. Looking at what Disney was doing with Captain America as a spy flick and what Fox did with a time travel X-Men film.

Wanting Fantastic Four to be a superhero film with all sorts of slapstick and cheese is what held the Tim Story films back. The difference is between thinking that you know what you want and what you actually want. For instance, knowing that Fox is doing a Fantastic Four film based on real world robotics and astrophysics is something that hasn't been done yet. More importantly, it not only grounds both Doctor Doom and the FF as something we can relate to but it also taps into the fandom for Cosmos.

Now think of all the fun that the Fantastic Four could have exploring things like String Theory, antimatter, faster than light travel, multiversal theory, etc. That's a whole new world that wouldn't feel right with any other CBM. I mean, what other franchise can have in depth explorations of the nature of reality as a CORE theme? Even in a franchise with more sci-fi series like Iron Man or Superman, these kinds of themes would feel like the filmmakers were trying too hard to be sophisticated. With the Fantastic Four, solving problems with theoretical physics is literally the entire purpose of the team.

Also, the found footage feel is something that CBMs haven't tapped into yet. The idea of the FF filming their origin and either performing experiments with cosmic rays or taking a journey into the Negative Zone only to find that they have all sorts of crazy powers. Scientists always keep records and Johnny Storm as the brother-in-law cracking jokes behind the camera while Reed explains just exactly what they're working with is fresh, it's new and it hasn't been done before. The big set pieces can be saved for the sequel once the origin is out of the way and the brand is re-established.

I mean, the Fantastic Four getting powers and then deciding to fight evil on day one would just feel rushed. I'd rather they take time to run experiments on themselves first and have Doctor Doom be built up as a villain before he changes into an anti-hero. I'd rather see a Silver Surfer spin-off before Galactus comes to Earth. I want a small, intimate origin before the Fantastic Four become established as heroes.

I like and agree with some of what you're saying but the Tim Story films failed because they were bad films. I don't like people using that as an example of how the FF in their true incarnation could not succeed.

This film runs just as much risk as falling into the generic tropes you reference because it's another origin film. "Coming of age", yada yada. It's all been done before.

Until the film is released this is all conjecture anyway. Fox has a stigma here and justifiably so. I understand the enthusiasm some have expressed for Fox's commitment to quality films after First Class and DOFP but not only have they not demonstrated the same level of commitment to this franchise they've yet to prove they can deliver a good CBM not named X-Men.

 

[Joe Rockhead]

That's it. I'm convinced, the Fantastic Four needs a re-imagining, shot in the arm. Trank, Kinberg and Fox are just the people to get the job done.

FF fans are just stubborn old fools who are either unwilling or unable to embrace the new dynamic story telling style.

 

[Krystal]

That's it. I'm convinced, the Fantastic Four needs a re-imagining, shot in the arm. Trank, Kinberg and Fox are just the people to get the job done.

FF fans are just stubborn old fools who are either unwilling or unable to embrace the new dynamic story telling style.

Don't forget how comic book movies are becoming "stale" and need new gimmicks to make them viable in the future.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

It's not gimmicks it's sub-genres. Having just a superhero movie appeals to just superhero movie fans, having a superhero movie that is also a period piece, space opera, spy thriller ect... Expands the audience.

 

[CaptainWagner]

I'm remaining optimistic about this film. The only questionable decision they've made so far in my opinion is the whole Johnny Storm race change, so I guess I don't really get why so many people are upset about the whole movie. Hopefully they'll fully embrace the scientific-adventurers side to the FF to keep it from being generic.

 

[Kelly]

It's not gimmicks it's sub-genres. Having just a superhero movie appeals to just superhero movie fans, having a superhero movie that is also a period piece, space opera, spy thriller ect... Expands the audience.

Wow...ya know, had they gone with a 616 F4, they would have gotten all of those things. Hmmmmmmm....

 

[Link]

All we have so far is rumors and small details. I'm waiting for pictures of the costumes and trailers before saying anything definite about it. Surprised so many people are throwing around comments like "i wont be seeing this movie" at this point, kinda hilarious actually.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

All we have so far is rumors and small details. I'm waiting for pictures of the costumes and trailers before saying anything definite about it. Surprised so many people are throwing around comments like "i wont be seeing this movie" at this point, kinda hilarious actually.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

So.. it's now "A coming of age highschool super powers movie, with a found footage feel and starring Michael B Jordan"?

I actually really enjoyed Chronicle, so as this is sounding more and more like the EXACT SAME film, it should be pretty enjoyable!

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

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