The Wolverine The Stealth Express of Doom News & Discussion Thread: - Part 4

[danoyse]

Maybe it's a similar situation to X2 in that they can get away with some stuff as long as they don't dwell on it. Though saying that I don't think every showed any actual blood in X2.

The Weapon X flashblack...

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Well thats good that its rated pg 13 at least with some gore and...other. lol.

Man...I hope my expectations for this movie don't get plundered down the toilet when X3 came out. Otherwise, im keeping them really low.

 

[The Infernal]

They showed a good amount during the final Weapon X flashback, but not much besides that.

Good point. Though that was still pretty obscured if I recall correctly.

Pretty funny when considered next to Origins version of that scene. Was there any blood there?

 

[Snikt]

Do you know how hard it was to take World War Z seriously, as a Walking Dead fan?

. I too LOVE the Walking Dead, WWZ got around the gore...just by not showing it . I still enjoyed it, but I gave a review and said I still enjoy tons of gore in my zombie movies.

 

[Snikt]

Good point. Though that was still pretty obscured if I recall correctly.

Pretty funny when considered next to Origins version of that scene. Was there any blood there?

No...because producer Lauren Shuler Donner said they didn't want to have blood in XMO: Wolverine because they wanted to keep it PG-13...almost like ANY blood whatsoever would be and automatic R-rating...I hated hearing her say that in the commentary.

 

[The Infernal]

Never actually listened to the commentary on that film. That makes it even more funny given the Wolverine Origins movie game which is probably the bloodiest thing still associated with the x-movies.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

This new?

Access Hollywood - Rila Fukushima, Hiroyuki Sanada & Tao Okamoto Discuss The Wolverine

 

[Snikt]

This new?

Access Hollywood - Rila Fukushima, Hiroyuki Sanada & Tao Okamoto Discuss The Wolverine

I haven't seen it... I think it's new.

 

[The Infernal]

New to me also.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Maybe it's a similar situation to X2 in that they can get away with some stuff as long as they don't dwell on it.

No.

 

[Dead Man Dann]

Good point. Though that was still pretty obscured if I recall correctly.

Pretty funny when considered next to Origins version of that scene. Was there any blood there?

Don't even get me started on that... NO blood whatsoever. Hardly violent or intense. I've always said that the entire film should have been a Weapon X adaptation, but instead we got a watered-down 5 min. version of the damn thing. The X1-X2 flashbacks were so much better.

 

[Snikt]

No.

LMAO!!! Just another tidbit that gets me pumped for the film .

Any news on when you get to post your review

 

[Snikt]

Don't even get me started on that... NO blood whatsoever. Hardly violent or intense. I've always said that the entire film should have been a Weapon X adaptation, but instead we got a watered-down 5 min. version of the damn thing. The X1-X2 flashbacks were so much better.

Agreed. Origins would've been better if his emergence from the Weapon X tank was the finale...rather than midpoint in the movie. I think it's still the coolest scene in the film.

Seeing Wolverine emerge from the tank just seemed like a comic panel brought to life. He was screaming, claws popped out and had tons of needles sticking out of him.

 

[Dead Man Dann]

No.

Goddammit, I can't wait to see this thing.

 

[The Infernal]

No.

That should prove interesting.

Don't even get me started on that... NO blood whatsoever. Hardly violent or intense. I've always said that the entire film should have been a Weapon X adaptation, but instead we got a watered-down 5 min. version of the damn thing. The X1-X2 flashbacks were so much better.

Agreed. There was so much of the Weapon X elements that were mishandled.

 

[Dead Man Dann]

Seeing Wolverine emerge from the tank just seemed like a comic panel brought to life. He was screaming, claws popped out and had tons of needles sticking out of him.

I would have preferred that shot if it weren't just anger. In the original comic and the other previous films' flashbacks, it's rage mixed with horror, agony, confusion.. I would have preferred it like that, personally.

 

[Snikt]

I would have preferred that shot if it weren't just anger. In the original comic and the other previous films' flashbacks, it's rage mixed with horror, agony, confusion.. I would have preferred it like that, personally.

. Of course...forgot the looks of "holy crap!" And "this freaking hurts like a mother!"

That would've been cool.

 

[Dead Man Dann]

Agreed. There was so much of the Weapon X elements that were mishandled.

Not to get too off-track regarding the thread's topic, but every time I think about this, it bugs me. The entire point of the original story was thrown outta the window. Seriously, it lasts a few minutes, then he goes for a swim. In the comics, it's about trying to hold onto his humanity as it's being being violently stripped from him. His eventual "victory" is supposed to feel earned, hard-won. In Origins, they gloss over it all. I also preferred how he's introduced as an ex-agent who's hit rock bottom, drinking heavily to block out his nightmares, getting into bar fights, etc. Dark stuff.

 

[Dead Man Dann]

Poni, I know you can't say much, but if you could put my mind at ease for ONE thing-- there's a moment in a featurette where it seems as though Yashida is speaking to Shingen in English. I have a feeling that won't be the case in the film itself, but I'd still like to be 100% sure.

 

[danoyse]

Not to get too off-track regarding the thread's topic, but every time I think about this, it bugs me. The entire point of the original story was thrown outta the window. Seriously, it lasts a few minutes, then he goes for a swim. In the comics, it's about trying to hold onto his humanity as it's being being violently stripped from him. His eventual "victory" is supposed to feel earned, hard-won. In Origins, they gloss over it all. I also preferred how he's introduced as an ex-agent who's hit rock bottom, drinking heavily to block out his nightmares, getting into bar fights, etc. Dark stuff.

Agreed.

I remember after my sister saw it, the first thing she asked was, "Why do they call him Logan??" And it's true...there's no explanation to why he changed his name, which was a cool moment in the Origin comic.

 

[Snikt]

I just re-read my Wolverine: Origins collection...such a good storyline...Guess I should actually read the Japanese saga before seeing the movie .

I know the basic elements and overall plot of that saga; just never read it front to back.

 

[Dead Man Dann]

Agreed.

I remember after my sister saw it, the first thing she asked was, "Why do they call him Logan??" And it's true...there's no explanation to why he changed his name, which was a cool moment in the Origin comic.

Yeah, it's true. When did that even happen in the context of the story? Stupid. On top of the bigger issues, lotsa small ones like that bugged me too. The dog tags, also. Was it really impossible to keep the Canadian tags from X1-X2? Unnecessary change.

 

[danoyse]

I re-read the Japanese saga at the pool a few weeks ago.

 

[The Infernal]

Came across this elsewhere. Watch the end for the Origins DVD.

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[Snikt]

Yeah, it's true. When did that even happen in the context of the story? Stupid. On top of the bigger issues, lotsa small ones like that bugged me too. The dog tags, also. Was it really impossible to keep the Canadian tags from X1-X2? Unnecessary change.

And I remember he only had the one dog tag in X1 & X2...I kept waiting for him to lose his one dog tag or give it to somebody.