The Story.

[sf2]

I don't change tune. If I like it, I'll gladly admit it. It's safe to assume Jor-El investigated Earth in every conceivable version of Superman's origin. How else could he know about the powers its yellow sun would give his son? Planet Krypton should explode. Period. And Zod also came to Earth to enslave Kal-El. That was his original plan in Superman II.

"You will bow down before me, Jor-El. Both you, and then one day, your heir!".
Sounds pretty clear to me. Forcing planet Earth and its inhabitants into submission was just a nice bonus, since they had no other place to go (as far as the film's plot details).

no, he didn't know about kal-el at all when he arrived at earth. his original plan was to conquer and rule. only when the people told him superman would get him, he realised the son of jor-el was here.

that's a big different.

i don't want superman is the reason for zod to come to earth and the cause of the destruction.

 

[sf2]

Where are you getting this information?

Seriously, I see absolutely no evidence whatsoever that they are taking anything from the flyby script. Even the suit, is obviously very very different... They have a similar circular design at his middle, and both designs have a darker blue... but the 's', the cape, and the newly revealed silver designs on the side seperate it completely.

So far, we know nothing much about the plot. So where your seeing these flyby similarities is beyond me.

wow. there are tons of posts here. i can't retrieve the posts / sources. but i remember reading something.

anyway, i believe the story for krypton will not be as simple as just a doomed planet. the origin will be modified.

 

[Willi Berg]

I have never read the "Krypton will survive" rumour for this movie so would be really interested in seeing a source article before I believe it.

Here are some of the main old rumours from this movie:

Earlier today we posted that Diane Lane briefly spoke with E! Online stating that she has in fact read the script for the new Superman movie titled "Man of Steel," which Zack Snyder is directing and Christopher Nolan producing.

Lane of course is playing Martha Kent, the adoptive mother of the titled hero played by Henry Cavill.

She gave hints at the film's structure by saying:

"It does cover the entire range of years, from infancy on."

So because she said that you have all these bloggers and film sites saying that we will see a young Clark Kent once more.* Well if it’s a reboot then of course you'll see a young Clark, its only obvious.

After this story broke online I got to speak with my reliable source about the project once again. For you readers who have doubts about the validity of this source's info, this is the same individual that revealed to us Kevin Costner was cast as 'Pa' Kent, Lois Lane would appear in the film and Zod would be the villain, a major scoop that was finally proven valid with the news of Michael Shannon's casting a few days ago.* This source also revealed that along with Zod there will be a Kryptonian villainess. I know that this source has no reason to lie to be about anything.

Being that the "Man of Steel" is a reboot/origin story or whatever you want to call it, they will show you the whole story all over again. Well not the way Richard Donner showed you but it will have some sort of similarities to "Batman Begins."

Here is what my source told me:

• You will see JOR-EL and his wife, Lara.
• Daniel Day-Lewis was looked at for JOR-EL and not the villain.
• Krypton will not be a crystal planet like the Donner film; this Krypton will PROBABLY look like the Coruscant skyline from Star Wars.
• The Kryptonian villainess is not URSA...Well sort of.* The villainess is FAORA.

In the movies Superman and Superman II, the female Kryptonian villainess URSA is based on Faora.*

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-man-of-steel-will-reveal-a-new-krypton-more-13234

Along with Zod and Faora, the Kryptonian scientist Jax-Ur will be in the movie. (In the comics, Jax-Ur is responsible for the destruction of the Kryptonian moon which causes Braniac to take notice of Krypton - which fits in with what I was told about setting up Braniac as the potential villain in the sequel, if one is made).

The three are trapped inside the Phantom Zone and work their way out. They home in on Kal-El's craft that landed in Smallville and make their way to Earth.

The three Kryptonians integrate themselves into human society where Zod grows a deep hatred for the humans as he feels they are destroying the planet. With this view of the humans "wasting their perfect planet," the Kryptonians then begin to formulate a plan to make a better Krypton.

Zod wants to make Earth the New Krypton, using Faora to start the new Kryptonian bloodline and using Jax-Ur to accelerate human technology though LexCorp, which is the most advanced company on the planet, run by Lex Luthor.

Enter General Samuel Lane.

Earlier it was reported that Alberta, Canada lost the filming location due to not having the right military equipment. Aircraft Carriers and things of that nature were cited, with Chicago reportedly having the necessary vehicles.

General Lane will be leading Earth's defense against Zod, Faora and Jax-Ur -- and also Superman. Just as Zod's hatred for humans grows, Lane's hatred for aliens does, as well, - and this applies to Superman.

I've been told Jeff Bridges and Ed Harris are being looked at for the role of General Lane.

I've also been hearing different things back and forth as the script is getting rewritten. Earlier I statedthat Braniac destroys Kandor, but that doesn't seem to be the case (which fits in more with Jax-Ur, actually) with the latest script. However, Braniac is still set to be involved with Krypton's destruction.

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/man-steel-script-spoilers-plot-revealed-superman-2012

General Sam Lane, the father of Lois Lane, is a central figure in director Zack Snyder’s Superman reboot. This really is as Zack described in several interviews about the film, a “real world” Superman. I’m told that when Superman arrives on the scene; people don’t know what to think. He’s an alien from another planet. What are his real intentions? He’s not human and that scares a lot of people. Here’s a guy who can fly, see through walls, is bullet proof and can lift a tank. The military views him as a potential threat to national security. They find kryptonite, pieces of his home planet, and discover its radioactive elements can be harnessed as a near unlimited source of power, both literally and figuratively. It’s a brand new form of energy that is secretly developed by the government. The military, under the direction of General Sam Lane, uses kryptonite to power an experimental cyborg super solider named Metallo. He’s ultimately exploited as a weapon against Superman.

http://www.movienewz.com/superman-reboot-plot-details-revealed/

 

[manofsteel4life]

I wonder what's gonna be his big save as supes when he steps on the scene

 

[Willi Berg]

I wonder what's gonna be his big save as supes when he steps on the scene

We may get more of an idea when they move filming to Chicago.

 

[manofsteel4life]

We may get more of an idea when they move filming to Chicago.

Wait you mean vancover right?

 

[Willi Berg]

Wait you mean vancover right?

I'm not sure I was just going to say "Metropolis"! But stuff is being filmed in Chicago because the production is using the US military but I don't know what is being filmed in Chicago or Vancouver.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Thanks Willi, it's good to see all of that together, haven't read some of it for a while

But what part of any of that is like flyby exactly?

 

[Willi Berg]

Thanks Willi, it's good to see all of that together, haven't read some of it for a while

But what part of any of that is like flyby exactly?

I don't think it's like any! I just don't recall reading that Krypton won't explode, and so I looked at some of the old rumours.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I don't think it's like any! I just don't recall reading that Krypton won't explode, and so I looked at some of the old rumours.

Sorry i'm referring to sf2's point, and just hoping you'd confirm my point. Which you have, cheers

 

[Willi Berg]

Here are other old rumours (not saying they're true! but some potential *SPOILERS* if any are):

Spoiler

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/superman-man-steel-2012-movie-rumors-recap-and-more-lex-luthor


• Braniac destroys Krypton and may be set-up to be the villain in the sequel (if there is one).

• Krypton will not be the crystalline version like in the Donner films, but will incorporate technology, which is now considered "definite Kryptonian technology" with a more alien contemporary feel.

• The Krytonians featured will be Jor-El, Zod, Faora and Jax-Ur. Lara Lor-Van was mentioned in earlier drafts, but not a sure thing as the scripts are changing. [Update: Antje Traue is Faora.]

• Zack Snyder would like Jon Hamm to portray Jor-El. [Update: Russel Crowe is Jor-El.]

• There are flashback scenes related to General Zod and WILL feature Krypton -- despite the lawsuit stuff.

• Faora hates all men and is working with Zod and Jax-Ur to get out of the Phantom Zone.

• Jax-Ur was a close friend to Jor-El, who was exiled to the Phantom Zone, and is now working with Zod to free themselves (which they do).

• Zod and the Phantom Zone criminals escape and find Smallville by locking onto Kal-El's ship, which is buried in a field.

• Zod, Faora and Jax-Ur don't just go all out and start attacking and invading Earth. They initially try to blend in and get a custom to their surroundings, but think the Earth is dirty and smells, that the humans are wasting a "perfect" planet. They then start to formulate a plan to make a "better" Krypton.

• Zod's main goal is to make a new Krypton, using Earth, with him as leader. He plans to use Faora to start a new perfect Kryptonian bloodline and Jax-Ur to use his vast scientific knowledge to accelerate technology on Earth.

• Zod and Lex Luthor do have interactions. With LexCorp being the most advanced company on the planet, Zod plans to use LexCorp technology and advance it to Kryptonian levels, as it's the most "compatible."

• In the first draft there was no Fortress of Solitude.

• A key role in the film will be that of Gen. Samuel Lane, father of Lois Lane. Ed Harris and Jeff Bridges are being looked at for this role. Gen. Sam Lane is leading Earth's defense against Zod, Faora and Jax-Ur. He grows a hatred to all Aliens -- including Superman. [Update: Christopher Meloni is Colonel Hardy and Harry Lennix is General Swanick.]

• Lindsay Lohan is up for the role of Lana Lang. She isn't Clark's High School sweetheart, just a girl he likes. Lana isn't interested in him because she is one of the popular girls, while Clark is geeky character who can't really show what he is like -- a "Superman." Lana does find out though when the school bus crashes and Clark saves the day -- as she sees him.

• CGI test shots of a Metropolis skyline were done, mixing the Vancouver and Chicago skylines for plate shots and exterior shots during the film. Identifiable buildings were replaced by key buildings from the script such as LexCorp Tower and the Daily Planet Building.

• In the first draft of the script, [BLACKOUT]Lex Luthor forces the Kryptonian trio through a Phantom Zone portal using Kryptonite in the final battle. At the end of the movie, Lex considers forcing Superman through as well, but relents.[/BLACKOUT] Note: It may end differently as that was the first draft.

 

[Willi Berg]

Sorry i'm referring to sf2's point, and just hoping you'd confirm my point. Which you have, cheers

I know. No worries!

 

[manofsteel4life]

I'm not sure I was just going to say "Metropolis"! But stuff is being filmed in Chicago because the production is using the US military but I don't know what is being filmed in Chicago or Vancouver.

Oh alright, I guess I'm just going by some of the posters saying that vancover was metropolis, they could film in chicago as well. I guess it makes sense

 

[Superman_200]

Wait you mean vancover right?

I thought they were combining scenes from Chicago as well, with the 2 cities standing in as Metropolis?

 

[manofsteel4life]

I thought they were combining scenes from Chicago as well, with the 2 cities standing in as Metropolis?

Lol your guess is as good as mine.... Probably won't find out for sure till we see a suit and glasses on him

 

[sf2]

I don't think it's like any! I just don't recall reading that Krypton won't explode, and so I looked at some of the old rumours.

it's just an assumption. if kyrpton didn't explode and played a large part in this movie and possibly the sequel was about krypton... can you guy accept the changes... you know... by the name of 'modernising' as some love it use it to justify all the changes...

 

[KRIM]

Has nothing to do with modernizing. It would apply the concept has a time period associated with it, which of course it doesn't.

I personally would welcome it, as it could provide for an unexpected and intriguing twist on the mythos. I've always been in love with science-fiction worlds. To actually see and go through Krypton, not an abridged cameo as it usually is, would be an awesome inclusion to the franchise. It opens up a whole new world of possibilities.

 

[Herolee10]

The BIGGEST thing that I hope that they're able to accomplish and successfully execute in this film is the point, where when you see something disastrous happening towards a bunch of innocent civilians, and you can see from their faces, along with the tone and music accompanying the scene, that all hope seems to be loss, and right at the last second, you see Superman appear to rescue everyone and bring back that sense of hope again.

I may be bias when I say that, but I don't think there's any other hero in the comic books that can match on how incredible it appears whenever Superman arrives onto the scene to save the day.

And given that this is most likely a origin story, where the world has NEVER encountered a being like Superman, I want to see the moment where everyone in the film that looks like they're about to die or lose a loved one from a tragic accident, to suddenly be awestruck when Superman arrives onto the scene for the first time and save them from despair.

I've seen this factor only touched upon slightly in other films. Like the moment where Richard White thinks he, Lois, and Jason are left to die in the sinking ship; you see his despair, but then suddenly, Superman shows up and saves the day.

 

[Rust]

The BIGGEST thing that I hope that they're able to accomplish and successfully execute in this film is the point, where when you see something disastrous happening towards a bunch of innocent civilians, and you can see from their faces, along with the tone and music accompanying the scene, that all hope seems to be loss, and right at the last second, you see Superman appear to rescue everyone and bring back that sense of hope again.

I may be bias when I say that, but I don't think there's any other hero in the comic books that can match on how incredible it appears whenever Superman arrives onto the scene to save the day.

I agree and I thank mostly Donner, Reeve and Williams for making me clap my small hands at a superhero for the first time decades ago.

In MOS, if Superman really is being viewed as the villain by the military and the public at first, then the scene were he turns it around should be such a scene.

 

[Herolee10]

I agree and I thank mostly Donner, Reeve and Williams for making me clap my small hands at a superhero for the first time decades ago.

In MOS, if Superman really is being viewed as the villain by the military and the public at first, then the scene were he turns it around should be such a scene.

My mother told me that when she went to watch S:TM in theaters for the first time, EVERYONE in the room had clapped wildly for the moment where Superman saved Lois and the plane from falling onto the ground, so needless to say, yeah, the trio listed above are definitely responsible for having created something very special.

And yeah, i don't think it'd be as natural or realistic for Superman to suddenly show up and everyone to be clapping ans singing praises for his arrival. There should be a division at first imho about what people are thinking when it comes to him as a person.

I would save the whole "clapping and hero's cheer" type of scene at the end of the climax, where everyone on Earth accepts Superman as not only one of their own, but as their true hero, thus also serving to one of Clark's potential arcs of having feared that humanity would never accept him for the way he is.

 

[Rust]

I have a feeling Snyder might play up the whole "he's an alien", "can we trust him?", "he's a freak, but I envy him"-angle. Not that I want the humans to be depicted as the hopeless, scared, envious little cowards that we sometimes are, but I definitely see Snyder and co slightly playing up the fear-of-the-gods aspect here.
Which is why having Superman ultimately coming out as the hero in the end will feel that much bigger. He has to really fight to win over the humans.

 

[Wheels]

Has nothing to do with modernizing. It would apply the concept has a time period associated with it, which of course it doesn't.

I personally would welcome it, as it could provide for an unexpected and intriguing twist on the mythos. I've always been in love with science-fiction worlds. To actually see and go through Krypton, not an abridged cameo as it usually is, would be an awesome inclusion to the franchise. It opens up a whole new world of possibilities.

I don't think I would be comfortable with something like that. Not to say I couldn't still enjoy Man of Steel as a film, but I doubt the movie would satisfy me as a Superman fan.

 

[Herolee10]

I have a feeling Snyder might play up the whole "he's an alien", "can we trust him?", "he's a freak, but I envy him"-angle. Not that I want the humans to be depicted as the hopeless, scared, envious little cowards that we sometimes are, but I definitely see Snyder and co slightly playing up the fear-of-the-gods aspect here.
Which is why having Superman ultimately coming out as the hero in the end will feel that much bigger. He has to really fight to win over the humans.

That would definitely make the moment where Superman receives a standing/universal ovation from people feel that much more special to both Superman and to us audience.

If he theory is true that we'll get a better in depth look at Krypton, I hope they go for a parallel type of situation, where we see Krypton as a example of where Earth's future could lead into (War, Domestic Violence), and how Superman's actions leads to changing that.

 

[Rust]

If he theory is true that we'll get a better in depth look at Krypton, I hope they go for a parallel type of situation, where we see Krypton as a example of where Earth's future could lead into (War, Domestic Violence), and how Superman's actions leads to changing that.

Check!

I'm hoping for a utopian Aldaraan-like Krypton as well. Which would explain the deep motivations of the "big blue boy scout" better. And why Zod and co are ultimately banished/imprisoned.
Then I reckon the possible destruction of Krypton comes from an outside threat rather than from the hand of Zod.
I'm crossing my fingers for that hint at Brainiac in the origin.

 

[sf2]

My mother told me that when she went to watch S:TM in theaters for the first time, EVERYONE in the room had clapped wildly for the moment where Superman saved Lois and the plane from falling onto the ground, so needless to say, yeah, the trio listed above are definitely responsible for having created something very special.

And yeah, i don't think it'd be as natural or realistic for Superman to suddenly show up and everyone to be clapping ans singing praises for his arrival. There should be a division at first imho about what people are thinking when it comes to him as a person.

I would save the whole "clapping and hero's cheer" type of scene at the end of the climax, where everyone on Earth accepts Superman as not only one of their own, but as their true hero, thus also serving to one of Clark's potential arcs of having feared that humanity would never accept him for the way he is.

wish MOS can achieve that.
and i'm so ready to cheer together with the crowd and the audience in the cinema at the end of the movie!!!