The Story.

[Herolee10]

Well MOS does have the duty of establishing as to why Superman is TOP DOG in the Hero world, and why he's been given the title of "Greatest Superhero".

Superman is a hero that approaches just about every threat imaginable. He patrols the streets all over the world for domestic violence; he battles out with any alien trying to invade Earth, and he goes toe to toe with super villains.

He has the famous "No kill" policy, he isn't a arrogant jerk, he knows how to treat his romantic leads properly (a lot of female characters like him for that reason, since most male heroes don't know how to properly treat women), and he has a very compassionate heart.

While he's not perfect by any means, he's still the type of person to aspire towards being more like.

 

[sf2]

Well MOS does have the duty of establishing as to why Superman is TOP DOG in the Hero world, and why he's been given the title of "Greatest Superhero".

Superman is a hero that approaches just about every threat imaginable. He patrols the streets all over the world for domestic violence; he battles out with any alien trying to invade Earth, and he goes toe to toe with super villains.

He has the famous "No kill" policy, he isn't a arrogant jerk, he knows how to treat his romantic leads properly (a lot of female characters like him for that reason, since most male heroes don't know how to properly treat women), and he has a very compassionate heart.

While he's not perfect by any means, he's still the type of person to aspire towards being more like.

you refer to the female characters in comics?
i thought girls like bad boys. with the evil looking the better.

 

[Herolee10]

you refer to the female characters in comics?
i thought girls like bad boys. with the evil looking the better.

Yeah, the ones in the comics I meant.lol

Though I've heard the saying that while some girls prefer going out with Batman, it's Superman that they want to come back home to.lol


In any case, I hope this film better characterizes Superman's personality than past films.

In my opinion, past films only briefly touched the human side of Clark's personality during his superman period. I want to see more of that; the film should really establish as to who the man behind the cape is, and gain the support of the audiences as well.

 

[sf2]

Yeah, the ones in the comics I meant.lol

Though I've heard the saying that while some girls prefer going out with Batman, it's Superman that they want to come back home to.lol


In any case, I hope this film better characterizes Superman's personality than past films.

In my opinion, past films only briefly touched the human side of Clark's personality during his superman period. I want to see more of that; the film should really establish as to who the man behind the cape is, and gain the support of the audiences as well.

lol. excellent analogy. ya, we should see more his personality and character.

 

[Herolee10]

Man; given the sightings of a motion capture crew fighting with Superman, that does raise both my excitement and curiosity for the film.

I mean, imagine if we saw Superman fighting not only Zod and Faora, but aliens who don't have any humanoid appearances, but are also from the PZ as well?

That would be such a first for any Superman film, since all of Superman's film villains have had human appearances. He's never really had any monsters or whatnot to face in films.

I would have never thought that such a thing was even a possibility to take place in this film.

It would be exciting to see Superman take on a whole armada of Alien Prisoners from the PZ since that would make his victory in the end feel that much more bigger.

Though I'm hoping that this still leaves room for seeing Superman take on domestic and Real life Earth Villains/criminals as well.

 

[sf2]

like the ps4 game?

i would prefer to see fighting robots & machines than monsters.

yap, taking on normal criminals and thugs are his duty too.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Well MOS does have the duty of establishing as to why Superman is TOP DOG in the Hero world, and why he's been given the title of "Greatest Superhero".

Superman is a hero that approaches just about every threat imaginable. He patrols the streets all over the world for domestic violence; he battles out with any alien trying to invade Earth, and he goes toe to toe with super villains.

He has the famous "No kill" policy, he isn't a arrogant jerk, he knows how to treat his romantic leads properly (a lot of female characters like him for that reason, since most male heroes don't know how to properly treat women), and he has a very compassionate heart.

While he's not perfect by any means, he's still the type of person to aspire towards being more like.

Agree completely.

If you fail to capture what it is that makes him top dog, then any future JLA movie is not going to work as well.

you refer to the female characters in comics?
i thought girls like bad boys. with the evil looking the better.

I think LnC had the portrayal down perfectly in terms of Clark being this polite, stand up, moral, straight, kind guy without him being the kind of guy that every girl would turn down for being 'too nice'.

Because he's not wet. He's not a total wimp. Because he could banter/argue with her. Sometimes he'd even tease her a little bit.

That's kind of the most important thing with Lois. You have to give as good as you get. Or she wouldn't even give you the time of day.

 

[Willi Berg]

I personally would welcome it, as it could provide for an unexpected and intriguing twist on the mythos. I've always been in love with science-fiction worlds. To actually see and go through Krypton, not an abridged cameo as it usually is, would be an awesome inclusion to the franchise. It opens up a whole new world of possibilities.

The problem with Krypton surviving is that it would take away from the reason why Superman was sent to Earth in the first place and that whole aspect at the core of Superman. That's where his character starts changing, much more so than tweaks to his costume.

There have been plenty of stories about life on Krypton before its destruction. There are quite a few "world of Krypton" type of stories. And even New Krypton explored what life was like on their old home world and their system of government.

If he theory is true that we'll get a better in depth look at Krypton, I hope they go for a parallel type of situation, where we see Krypton as a example of where Earth's future could lead into (War, Domestic Violence), and how Superman's actions leads to changing that.

That sounds good. Zod's ideas and behaviour on Earth can be an example of the strife caused on Krypton, whereas Superman would have a different approach to humans and the Earth and how things should be run etc.

Check!

I'm hoping for a utopian Aldaraan-like Krypton as well. Which would explain the deep motivations of the "big blue boy scout" better. And why Zod and co are ultimately banished/imprisoned.
Then I reckon the possible destruction of Krypton comes from an outside threat rather than from the hand of Zod.
I'm crossing my fingers for that hint at Brainiac in the origin.

Yes, Superman would have more peaceful methods, just as Jor-El did. Zod wouldn't. I don't think Zod should have anything to do with Krypton's destruction either. Though, like in the comics, his behaviour (or his cohorts') could affect Jor-El's plans for saving his people or being heard by the Council.

 

[KRIM]

The problem with Krypton surviving is that it would take away from the reason why Superman was sent to Earth in the first place and that whole aspect at the core of Superman. That's where his character starts changing, much more so than tweaks to his costume.

The reason you're referring to would be Jo-El and Lara trying to save their son? What does Krypton blowing up immediately after Kal-El's sent off, have anything to do with that?

There have been plenty of stories about life on Krypton before its destruction. There are quite a few "world of Krypton" type of stories. And even New Krypton explored what life was like on their old home world and their system of government.

These largely exist in the comics and have little chance of making a cinematic appearance. I'd like for Krypton to be integrated into this franchise. Preferably, a flashback setup that pertains to the each narrative (i.e. Lost & Godfather Part II). I would love to see subplots involving The House of El, giving the audiences insight into an alien culture. It would be very ambitious to take that route and would serve to truly separate itself from all the other superhero properties.

But a scenario in which Krypton survives could work. There would obviously be tweaks to the lore to accommodate it, but simultaneously it opens up new doors that prior artists had no access to.

 

[hulk24]

what if they worked into the story that zod was going to kill the house of el so jorel sent his son to earth to save him then zod just destroyed krypton after or not at all Id be fine with that

 

[Willi Berg]

The reason you're referring to would be Jo-El and Lara trying to save their son? What does Krypton blowing up immediately after Kal-El's sent off, have anything to do with that?

I mean Superman being an orphan, finding a new home on Earth, being raised by adoptive parents ETC.

 

[manofsteel4life]

what if they worked into the story that zod was going to kill the house of el so jorel sent his son to earth to save him then zod just destroyed krypton after or not at all Id be fine with that

He'd have to have a reason why he would want to kill Kal-el and not jor-el

 

[sf2]

how about 'the one'/ 'the prophecy' idea? something like matrix... that kal-el will be 'the one' to back to krypton and save them.

 

[_Kal-El_]

No such thing as a prophecy. That would be plain wrong. Even more so if you're referencing The Matrix. Plus, I'm still convinced Krypton will be destroyed. That's a fundamental part of Superman's history. You can't just erase that like they did his trunks.

 

[Willi Berg]

A prophecy really alters the tone of a story and also the character of the supposed "chosen one". It's been overused lately. I mean, we suddenly learned that Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker was the "Chosen One" and Harry Potter was part of a prophecy too.

Superman in a way is a regular man who chooses to do what he does. If he was on Krypton then he would be one of the citizens going about his life. And on Earth he is superpowered so he uses that to his advantage to help others. It comes more from circumstance.

 

[Sabaoth]

how about 'the one'/ 'the prophecy' idea? something like matrix... that kal-el will be 'the one' to back to krypton and save them.

Well, we already have Morpheus on board, so I guess that could be a possibility. Perry White would have Clark choose between the Red pill and the Blue pill.

 

[X Knight]

I don't want anymore prophecy/chosen one nonsense.........

Let Clark be Superman because that's what he chooses to do......

 

[_Kal-El_]

Knowing Superman, he'd probably choose the green pill, and end up in the hospital with Kryptonite blood poisoning...

 

[hopefuldreamer]

how about 'the one'/ 'the prophecy' idea? something like matrix... that kal-el will be 'the one' to back to krypton and save them.

How about Clark ends up in Metropolis after after a tornado picks up the Kent farmhouse and wisks him away from Kansas?

I mean, we know there is a tornado!

 

[sf2]

No such thing as a prophecy. That would be plain wrong. Even more so if you're referencing The Matrix. Plus, I'm still convinced Krypton will be destroyed. That's a fundamental part of Superman's history. You can't just erase that like they did his trunks.

well, they just did. i mean... removing the trunks. so if they like the prophecy idea n think it sells, they will do it 2.

n a lot of 'us' will suddenly say it's cool. 'in the name of modernising'

 

[Superman_200]

I don't really know why that is an issue though. I don't see what would be so different about him being the "chosen one" or if he does it because he can. Either one of the two would most likely work just as well. Clark's personality would still be the same, and the action would still be there. I don't think that changes the character very much, or would sell anymore or any less.

 

[Wheels]

Well I would say it's a horrible idea, modern or not.

 

[Wheels]

I don't really know why that is an issue though. I don't see what would be so different about him being the "chosen one" or if he does it because he can. Either one of the two would most likely work just as well. Clark's personality would still be the same, and the action would still be there. I don't think that changes the character very much, or would sell anymore or any less.

We got enough of that destiny stuff in the Donner films.

 

[Superman_200]

We got enough of that destiny stuff in the Donner films.

True, but I don't see how it really alters the character very much. I don't see the harm in it. I don't see how it helps him either. I don't think either way it does any harm/good to the character. I don't really care if they use it or not, I'd like to understand though how it changes the character one way or another.

 

[Willi Berg]

I don't really know why that is an issue though. I don't see what would be so different about him being the "chosen one" or if he does it because he can. Either one of the two would most likely work just as well. Clark's personality would still be the same, and the action would still be there. I don't think that changes the character very much, or would sell anymore or any less.

So then it's unnecessary.