The Story.

[_Kal-El_]

Has there been any news on to what extend Smallville would be featured?
Even if this isn't considered a sequel, and Jor-El and Lara will be used all over again,
I can safely say Kal-El's arrival in Smallville has been done to death by now.
A 15-min recap would be agreeable, but after that, off to Metropolis!

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Has there been any news on to what extend Smallville would be featured?
Even if this isn't considered a sequel, and Jor-El and Lara will be used all over again,
I can safely say Kal-El's arrival in Smallville has been done to death by now.
A 15-min recap would be agreeable, but after that, off to Metropolis!

This is a complete reboot. There not gonna hire russel crowe for 10 mins. The fact we have the great kevin costner makes me hope there is allot of time in smallville.

 

[Motown Marvel]

This is a complete reboot. There not gonna hire russel crowe for 10 mins. The fact we have the great kevin costner makes me hope there is allot of time in smallville.

marlon brando probably had less than 10 minutes screen time....and thats MARLON BRANDO!

 

[Rust]

Well, Russell Crowe or not, I think it's safe to assume there'll be a healthy amount of origin/Smallville-sequences. It wont be just 15 minutes and they wont just do the typical chronological narrative either. It'll be fresh and exiting, I'm sure. They'll do a completely new origin for the new generation with a modern approach.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

marlon brando probably had less than 10 minutes screen time....and thats MARLON BRANDO!

Marlon brando. Indeed. Without him the film wouldn't have been green lit. He asked for 2 million to do it. Back then. would you have turned that down.

 

[X Knight]

has there been any concrete proof that Smallville is still in Kansas for the movie reboot?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I would imagine it would be. Why change it?

 

[hopefuldreamer]

We know that the movie is a complete reinvention, not taking from the Donner/Lester films at all.

But when did we get specific confirmation that we are having a chilhood to superman origin story?

I don't remember that...

For all we know, Crowe is going to be seen in Zod's flashbacks and holograms, Costner is going to be seen in Birthright style scenes when Clark decides to become Superman.

The casting doesn't tell me that we are definitely going to see the whole origin.

And heck, for all we know, those disaster looking sets in Smallville, are from a fight that Zod and Superman have in the town he grew up in... or from a tornado that rips through Smallville and is the first big disaster he averts as Superman...

I'm not saying that is what will happen... just that we don't KNOW anything right now. We are all just assuming.

What do I hope?

I hope that they don't have the whole movie in linear order, and spend half of it showing baby clark picking up a sofa, goofy teenage Clark getting picked on, Clark and Lana romance etc. We've seen it. We've seen it on Smallville, we've seen it in the old movies.

In fact, it might sound awful, but I kind of hope they use the same model as BB.

Start with a flashback memory, have him wake up in the middle of a place where he is learning about the world he wants to change, enter the catalyst who forms and nurtures the idea of becoming a hero etc etc.

You don't ignore the childhood, you don't ignore the 'younger' years, but you pull it all together in a seemless way that allows for regular 'hits' of action.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

We know that the movie is a complete reinvention, not taking from the Donner/Lester films at all.

But when did we get specific confirmation that we are having a chilhood to superman origin story?

I don't remember that...

For all we know, Crowe is going to be seen in Zod's flashbacks and holograms, Costner is going to be seen in Birthright style scenes when Clark decides to become Superman.

The casting doesn't tell me that we are definitely going to see the whole origin.

And heck, for all we know, those disaster looking sets in Smallville, are from a fight that Zod and Superman have in the town he grew up in... or from a tornado that rips through Smallville and is the first big disaster he averts as Superman...

I'm not saying that is what will happen... just that we don't KNOW anything right now. We are all just assuming.

What do I hope?

I hope that they don't have the whole movie in linear order, and spend half of it showing baby clark picking up a sofa, goofy teenage Clark getting picked on, Clark and Lana romance etc. We've seen it. We've seen it on Smallville, we've seen it in the old movies.

In fact, it might sound awful, but I kind of hope they use the same model as BB.

Start with a flashback memory, have him wake up in the middle of a place where he is learning about the world he wants to change, enter the catalyst who forms and nurtures the idea of becoming a hero etc etc.

You don't ignore the childhood, you don't ignore the 'younger' years, but you pull it all together in a seemless way that allows for regular 'hits' of action.

Jon peters is that you?

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Jon peters is that you?

Seriously, what a weird thing to say...

EDIT: no wait, I just got it... cause of the actions beats

Well in fairness, it's the only thing that he said that actually made sense. You do need to have a bit of action consistently throughout the film, not just a huge clump piled into the end.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Seriously, what a weird thing to say...

EDIT: no wait, I just got it... cause of the actions beats

Well in fairness, it's the only thing that he said that actually made sense. You do need to have a bit of action consistently throughout the film, not just a huge clump piled into the end.

I was hoping you would get that.

These days we need action with story. Not just action. You maybe right though.

 

[hulk24]

What if they show young Clark wanting to volunteer for the local police force or fire department etc. but his parents don't want him being discovered so they tell him there's other ways to help people and that's what sparks his interest to become an investigative journelist and after awhile of doing that his longing to help people and only being able to watch and report the horrors in the world, it effects him so much that he starts helping people and then just becomes superman because he feels the people he helps need to believe there is hope for others and that's what makes the greater good. He could even tell his parents that "there are those that sit and watch and tell stories and there are those that stop it and say enough is enough" and that's who I want to be. Then when zod comes to earth his image is put to the test and the people believe in superman but need a reason to trust him and once he defeats zod people realise he's there to help

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I'm still hoping that its the kents that make him realise he is here for a reason. Costner will make that so beautiful to watch. Its the kents who make him who he is. Its his upbringing.

 

[Rodrigo90]

I'm still hoping that its the kents that make him realise he is here for a reason. Costner will make that so beautiful to watch. Its the kents who make him who he is. Its his upbringing.

Thats more like the original movie.

It should be Clark having an apithany, and the Kent's being supportive. But at the same time, they should also have concerns over Clark's decision to become Superman.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Thats more like the original movie.

It should be Clark having an apithany, and the Kent's being supportive. But at the same time, they should also have concerns over Clark's decision to become Superman.

I just think its more natural, our parents set the example. I know where you are coming from but I'm unsure if certain traits are already with us. Just because the original film did that. Doesn't mean its wrong to do it.

 

[SuperDaniel]

Its pretty clear by the set pics and cast that this movie IS A FULL BLOWN ORIGIN STORY with lots of it spent on Smallville and Krypton. Count on it. We are going to see a lot of Smallville scenes, especially Clark as a kid, his first rescue, etc etc.

 

[X Knight]

Its pretty clear by the set pics and cast that this movie IS A FULL BLOWN ORIGIN STORY with lots of it spent on Smallville and Krypton. Count on it. We are going to see a lot of Smallville scenes, especially Clark as a kid, his first rescue, etc etc.

which is all fine by me.......

I can't wait to see what the new Krypton will look like. And Metropolis. And the costume.........

 

[DrCosmic]

One of the strengths of the Batman Begins story was starting the hero out in an unrecognizable form. No one could have guessed our first shot of Bruce Wayne would be in a cambodian prison camp. The same with Superman, that's why the african journalist angle from Birthright has so much promise, in that it immediately communicates, this is not your father's superman.

From there, there can, and should be, scenes with a young Clark Kent and his father, but it simply cannot be this chronological thing where we spend 15-20 minutes with a different actor than our star. It just doesn't connect the same way as something non-chronological would. And the point of Smallville, narratively isn't the community. The point is the Kents, and how they affect who Clark is, and where his morality comes from.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

One of the strengths of the Batman Begins story was starting the hero out in an unrecognizable form. No one could have guessed our first shot of Bruce Wayne would be in a cambodian prison camp. The same with Superman, that's why the african journalist angle from Birthright has so much promise, in that it immediately communicates, this is not your father's superman.

From there, there can, and should be, scenes with a young Clark Kent and his father, but it simply cannot be this chronological thing where we spend 15-20 minutes with a different actor than our star. It just doesn't connect the same way as something non-chronological would. And the point of Smallville, narratively isn't the community. The point is the Kents, and how they affect who Clark is, and where his morality comes from.

Very very right.

 

[Billy the Poet]

One of the strengths of the Batman Begins story was starting the hero out in an unrecognizable form. No one could have guessed our first shot of Bruce Wayne would be in a cambodian prison camp. The same with Superman, that's why the african journalist angle from Birthright has so much promise, in that it immediately communicates, this is not your father's superman.

From there, there can, and should be, scenes with a young Clark Kent and his father, but it simply cannot be this chronological thing where we spend 15-20 minutes with a different actor than our star. It just doesn't connect the same way as something non-chronological would. And the point of Smallville, narratively isn't the community. The point is the Kents, and how they affect who Clark is, and where his morality comes from.

Wasn't it Bhutan? The place had huge mountains and snow as well.

 

[Rodrigo90]

I just think its more natural, our parents set the example. I know where you are coming from but I'm unsure if certain traits are already with us. Just because the original film did that. Doesn't mean its wrong to do it.

Heres how you can give the Kent's a decent arc of their own.

They find Kal-El in the field. Decide to leave him in an orphange, but they have become attached to him, and legally adopt him.

Years later. The Kent's have raised Clark as the best kid they could. This could evolve into a nice debate between Jonathan and Martha about wether or not they raised Clark to always say and do the right thing, out of fear. That he only cares so much because thats what the Kent's raised him to be like, in case he ever thinks of himself to be superior. Of course we know that even if the Kent's had a son of their own, he would still be like Clark, because they raised him out of love, not fear. I know thats never been in the comics, but its a realistic question they would ask themselves. Just doubting themselves as decent parents

Then when Clark starts prepairing to become Superman, they initially support him, but express their fears and concerns of wether the world will accept or fear him, and if things dont work out, he could come back to the Farm. Then Clark reminds them that they shouldn't doubt themselves in any way, because they adopted and raised him out of love, not fear. If they cant accept him, then he will try to make the world understand

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Heres how you can give the Kent's a decent arc of their own.

They find Kal-El in the field. Decide to leave him in an orphange, but they have become attached to him, and legally adopt him.

Years later. The Kent's have raised Clark as the best kid they could. This could evolve into a nice debate between Jonathan and Martha about wether or not they raised Clark to always say and do the right thing, out of fear. That he only cares so much because thats what the Kent's raised him to be like, in case he ever thinks of himself to be superior. Of course we know that even if the Kent's had a son of their own, he would still be like Clark, because they raised him out of love, not fear. I know thats never been in the comics, but its a realistic question they would ask themselves. Just doubting themselves as decent parents

Then when Clark starts prepairing to become Superman, they initially support him, but express their fears and concerns of wether the world will accept or fear him, and if things dont work out, he could come back to the Farm. Then Clark reminds them that they shouldn't doubt themselves in any way, because they adopted and raised him out of love, not fear. If they cant accept him, then he will try to make the world understand

Its an interesting take rod. I could see that working. But there is only so much you can change. It is superman.

 

[Herolee10]

Heres how you can give the Kent's a decent arc of their own.

They find Kal-El in the field. Decide to leave him in an orphange, but they have become attached to him, and legally adopt him.

Years later. The Kent's have raised Clark as the best kid they could. This could evolve into a nice debate between Jonathan and Martha about wether or not they raised Clark to always say and do the right thing, out of fear. That he only cares so much because thats what the Kent's raised him to be like, in case he ever thinks of himself to be superior. Of course we know that even if the Kent's had a son of their own, he would still be like Clark, because they raised him out of love, not fear. I know thats never been in the comics, but its a realistic question they would ask themselves. Just doubting themselves as decent parents

Then when Clark starts prepairing to become Superman, they initially support him, but express their fears and concerns of wether the world will accept or fear him, and if things dont work out, he could come back to the Farm. Then Clark reminds them that they shouldn't doubt themselves in any way, because they adopted and raised him out of love, not fear. If they cant accept him, then he will try to make the world understand

I like that take/interpretation of the Kent Family Dynamics. It's definitely realistic, and it's not like you would be adding a MAJOR change to the Kents that would harm the integrity of their characters. It's just adding more layers to the characters.

Honestly, one of the things that I didn't like so much about the Donner films is that they placed more emphasis on Jor-el's teachings to Clark than his Earth Parents, let alone placing more credit to him than them when it came to who influenced him more towards becoming Superman.

I want the Kents to have a IMPORTANT place in Clark's life, but in the same time, I want the decision to come out of the shadows and become Superman to be Clark's decision with his parents supporting him.

 

[redrover]

I don't mind, and would like a non-linear story. I also would like to see both Clark and Lois, as older adults, have seperate lives, moments, leading up to their first meeting in Smallville, with all that may be going on in the town at the time, Clark has to be on his toes to be one step ahead of Lois.

I certainly don't want to see the antagonistic approach that was done so badly on "Smallville", tney don't have to like each other, or think too much of the other, at first, but the hate thing is way over done.

It might also be interesting if Clark learns from Lois while she is in SVLL, that being a journalist can help people, and how she does it, not openly, but by who she is.

 

[_Kal-El_]

I'd prefer Clark spending some time in Africa (as Cavill, not a younger actor), and returning to Smallville to spend some time with his parents. Throw in some Jor-El/Lara flashbacks, and have Zod (partially) fight him in Smallville, like the photos suggest.
Somehow move the fight to Metropolis in the third act, throw in a natural disaster to create a visual feast, and I'm sure Snyder can pull off what Singer couldn't.
The story sounds ace, and there's no illegitimate offspring involved, so that couldn't be it.