The Strongest In The Marvel Universe?

[CBG]

As the HULK was weakend from the portal and also had the disc on.

Indeed. Though, Hulk's powers all around was weakened -- Sufer's main power was blocked, leaving him with his physical capabilities.

And I thought Chuck Xavier was the strongest X-Man.

Rachel Summers probably holds that title, with the Phoenix Fragment and that bit she absorbed from that Phoenix Sword.

He took on the heavy hitters as if they were nothing. Wolverine, Cyclopes, Collossus, Beast, Chuck.

Indeed.

You can try and down play the fact the HULK took down the Sentry (the once "most powerful" Marvel character ever)

I disagree, considering the reality warpers.

Black Bolt, Strange, and the entire Fantastic Four, but all it does is make you look like a "FANBOY!"

I suppose it depends on how you post.

 

[DoomRulz]

HULK beat the piss out of that bone head (even though he was depowered as Blaze, I get it). And his hell fire wasn't enough for the HULK anyway. Even with the Rider in control.

That's b/c when The Rider was in control he rode off coz he saw no point in fighting Ghost Rider didn't want to fight in the first place, Blaze did.

 

[Spade]

I'm seeing the Red X of Doom.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

If you count natural psionic abilities and exclude the Phoenix Force then Xavier probably ranks 4th in overall psi strength.

1. Rachel
2. Jean
3. Karma
4. Xavier
5. Emma
6. Psylocke

Danielle Moonstar at full power probably ranks above Xavier as well but she seems to be currently depowered.

 

[bkhedr]

When they try to use King Thor, I can use the Ultimate HULK.

You mean the King Thor who existed as part of current continuity for a year?

That's the same as an alternate version of the Hulk's animated adaptation?

Man, you should be ashamed of yourself

 

[bkhedr]

I fricken hated him too. I wanted to see a classic HULK vs Thor fight instead for WWH 5. The fact Thor has such an ego makes me love it when a mortal puts him in his place though.

And I route because I know he's the strongest one there is. That's what makes me love him. WWH was just one story amoung many that prove it.

If Thor's current series is any indication he would have beat the Hulk silly (for all we know he still posseses the Odin Power)

 

[shapeshifter]

You mean the King Thor who existed as part of current continuity for a year?

That's the same as an alternate version of the Hulk's animated adaptation?

Man, you should be ashamed of yourself

that being the operative word.

 

[Fading]

I disagree. The Hulk's stamina increases along with his strength. He could go on forever as well.

Hulk's stamina may increase, but I'm sure he needs to eat and drink eventually, she's right as Juggs does not. Juggs doesn't need to breathe, eat, sleep, or drink. Hulk may be able to push his stamina further and further, but eventually he's going to either run out of energy or whatever like he just did against Sentry, or he's going to need to atleast get some liquids in his system. His rage may be infinite and he may be able to adapt, but he's still bound by a body that needs nourishment to replenish what was lost, whereas Juggernaut doesn't and can probably never stop fighting.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Heh, better living through magic.

 

[Fading]

the fact the HULK took down the Sentry

Once again, Hulk didn't take down Sentry, I really am starting to think you didn't read it. Sentry and Hulk unleashed so much power both reverted to their non super powered forms. It ended as a draw, Sentry and Hulk disappeared from the battle field, and Bruce Banner and Robert Reynolds finished the fight. They may be the same person at their core, but they are not power wise.

The fight inbetween the two, once again, was not finished by Hulk or Sentry as both of them expended their powers and apparently found their limits causing them BOTH to revert to normal humans. This implies Hulk found his limit against Sentry, and Sentry found his limit against Hulk, and neither lost that fight.

Bruce Banner (same guy, but had un-Hulked from the strain) did however deck Robert Reynolds.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I agree Sentry SUCKS BA!!$!!! I have been NEVER a fan of the OVERATED Sentry!!!!

If it wasn't for your ANNOYING ranting I would have been happy with Banner KO'ing Roger!!!!! You Hulk Fanboys make it IMPOSSIBLE to rout for Hulk!!!!

Overrated? I'm like one of the five people who like him

 

[Fading]

Overrated? I'm like one of the five people who like him

Personally I like Sentry too, atleast the concept, how writers carry him out however can leave a bad taste in my mouth.

I like the idea of a Marvel Superman, however one with a weakness that isn't a rock, and is his own worst enemy. I however don't like how they make him unable to take a step without doubting himself. I understand they have to do this since they made Sentry so powerful that he could end the fights in no time with the teams he's been paired with, so to make it an interesting read they have to hold him back. However they've went more and more extreme with it that his fear of void has almost become a broken record that has cornered Sentry into a one dimensional character IMO.

He's fine on Earth, and he's fine being that powerful, but they need to explore the character a bit more. I liked in...believe it's the last or one of the last issues of the Silent War where Sentry narrates and you get to see his thought process. Where normally you'd see him standing still and think he's just being useless staring off into space, but then you get to see where he's actually analzying and tracking the inhumans movements inside, and taking the path with the least casualties by not fighting Blackbolt and making things worse. IMO Sentry needs to take a step out of the Avengers and get his own book where they can explore the char more and give him a better personality, then once he's decently fleshed out he can return to a team book.

 

[CBG]

What FadingCB said. Sentry is interesting, but writers haven't done much with him.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Like I said before. Strange Syndrome.

 

[JackRembrandt]

The difference between Strange and Sentry is that good stories involving Sentry are extremely limited. It's not hard to do a good Strange story, even if many writers have failed.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

If many writers have failed, then it stands to reason it's not THAT easy to do a good Strange story.

 

[JackRembrandt]

No, it doesn't. The last great Strange story was obviously The Oath. It was a simple premise that allowed for great characterization with little bits of continuity here and there. That's a pretty simple formula to duplicate.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Yeah, until it's repetitive.

It's not easy. If it WERE, he wouldn't have cancelled titles.

 

[JackRembrandt]

You logic is extremely flawed. You're saying that because his past stories have sucked, he must be nearly impossible to write. If that were true, then Spider-Man would be impossible to write; based on your logic, that is.

And don't forget that formulas are not inherently bad. Done correctly, formuliac stories can be as enjoyable as any other.

 

[Whirlysplat]

The difference between Strange and Sentry is that good stories involving Sentry are extremely limited. It's not hard to do a good Strange story, even if many writers have failed.

I'm going to disagree here and say when Sentry has been used outside of his second mini series, then the stories, for the most part, have been poor.

 

[JackRembrandt]

That doesn't really disagree with what I said, at all.

 

[shapeshifter]

from an insider to an outsider. what exactly has sentry done?

 

[Whirlysplat]

That doesn't really disagree with what I said, at all.

Actually Jack it doesn't as far as the construction of your post went. However, as apart from team appearances, individual Sentry stories are almost non existant bar one or two. So you are merely playing semantics.
Wait till more individual stories are written. It may be the MAX route is the only way to go for him. With a Miracleman type approach.

 

[JackRembrandt]

Actually Jack it doesn't as far as the construction of your post went. However, as apart from team appearances, individual Sentry stories are almost non existant bar one or two. So you are merely playing semantics.
Wait till more individual stories are written. It may be the MAX route is the only way to go for him. With a Miracleman type approach.

You said that the Sentry's stories outside of his last miniseries have been poor. I said that the Sentry is limited in the amount of good stories a writer can tell about him. See how the two statements are unrelated, and thus cannot agree or disagree?

 

[DoomRulz]

I thought the Marvel equivalent of Superman was Gladiator