Comics The SUPERIOR Spider-Man - Part 2

[Fanged-Hunter]

Has Slott ever talked about how many issues he plans to go with Superior?

What's the current issue? 17, I think?

I'm guessing 30-35 issues of Superior Spider-Man. I still expect Peter to return with Amazing Spider-Man around April 2014. Call it a hunch.

 

[Hobgoblin]

FYI... in the Shocker's early appearances, he had shown some insecurities that he managed to overcome later in his career... so mid-life crisis maybe? In recent events, he had been poisoned and survived a bombing by the Punisher & turned into a Spider during Spider-Island... I can see how that might get into someone's head...

Post traumatic stress, maybe. Then again, he has likely experienced PTSD previously in his life, meaning that he is guarded against experiencing it again with any great severity. He may be suffering from some underlying insecurity that has been unexplored.

*smokes a pipe, ponders*

 

[Spiderhog]

I would say either 50 or 70 or 100.

 

[The Infernal]

FYI... in the Shocker's early appearances, he had shown some insecurities that he managed to overcome later in his career... so mid-life crisis maybe? In recent events, he had been poisoned and survived a bombing by the Punisher & turned into a Spider during Spider-Island... I can see how that might get into someone's head...

It might, but the progression just hasn't been shown or even alluded to and I'm not convinced that any of that is actually a factor in Shocker's current portrayal.

 

[KaineMorrison]

hey, I just realized. StllANerd hasn't been around for awhile. He also has some great ideas about how this might play out. Hope that he's ok.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Nope... unlike the Clone Saga, which felt like no one knew what direction they wanted in the books with all the back'n forths, this story is reading very much like it has a beginning, middle and end. So even if this goes beyond 2 years, so far, it's reading very well... unlike all the frustrations and obvious indecisions brought forth by Marvel during the Clone Saga.

Keep in mind, the clone saga was going through 5 titles (Spider-Man, Amazing, Spectacular, Web of, and Unlimited). I'm not sure where the Superior Spider-Man storyline is with Superior Spider-Man Team-up, but as far as the main title theoretically ending around issue 30, that'd only be just prior to Smoke and Mirrors story line of the Clone Saga. It was still good by then. Back then it was supposed to go only a tad longer until Amazing Spider-Man 400, but because of its popularity editorial kept dragging it out longer and longer and longer and kept changing the plot and twists.

Superior might be doing great right now, but with the sales its getting and with how much of a money-****e Marvel is, I could EASILY see editorial forcing Slott to keep it going and going and going until it's the next Clone Saga.

That's what I was saying. Not that Superior is currently bad, but that it's very successful and Marvel will run that into the ground. I mean, they're already taking a successful direction and rebranding mutliple titles after it... even if they have next to no connections (Superior Carnage, Superior Team-Up, Superior Foes of Spider-Man). If those don't work, and especially if the DO work, then Marvel isn't going to let Dan just end this direction. The question is whether Dan can take what can ONLY be a limited direction and keep it going and still feel fresh. Being that people on here are already starting to complain that it's starting to feel a little dragged out, I doubt it.

 

[The Infernal]

Despite what issues I have with Sp-Ock I think it would take a lot to turn Superior into the Clone Saga Redux. Hopefully Slott will at least have an idea on when to bow out and Marvel will have something else to follow it up and not merely milk it.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I hope you're right, but I just don't put that much faith in Marvel.

 

[Themanofbat]

The beauty part about letting Superior run it's natural course is the simple fact that there is a HUGE cash cow for Marvel at the end... the Return of Peter Parker.

So I don't think editorial will mess with Slott's story... imo.

 

[Donald Thomas]

The beauty part about letting Superior run it's natural course is the simple fact that there is a HUGE cash cow for Marvel at the end... the Return of Peter Parker.

So I don't think editorial will mess with Slott's story... imo.

Aloha,
I would agree. Like I said before, Sony is going to put millions of dollars into marketing the next movie with a character called Peter Parker.No way Marvel is going to miss out on all of that free publicity.
Spidey rules

 

[KaineMorrison]

Aloha,
I would agree. Like I said before, Sony is going to put millions of dollars into marketing the next movie with a character called Peter Parker.No way Marvel is going to miss out on all of that free publicity.
Spidey rules

But the thing is.... They ALWAYS do...
Sure the Movies might bring in a few new readers for the short term, but let's face it, it's keeping those new readers that is the major obstacle they face, and not just Marvel, but Distinguished Competition as well.

There needs to be some sort/form of advertisement/marketing ploy to keep people reading...

Maybe Marvel/DC can offer an incentive when, like Disney Movie Rewards, You go see the film in the Cinema, you get Points, maybe a system where if you see that movie you get a few month discount on the books...

 

[Will Nolte]

hey, I just realized. StllANerd hasn't been around for awhile. He also has some great ideas about how this might play out. Hope that he's ok.

Maybe Slott got him banned cause he kept giving away his story ideas and causing Slott to rewrite them.

On a similar note, I love how Marvel is using my Spidercide/Ben story idea I mentioned a while back...(Yeah sorry, I had to pat myself on the back with that one)

If the Marvel execs are reading this, I'm going to school for a BA in Graphic Design with a minor in Illustration, I also love to write. Feel free to contact me if you ever want any future help with your storylines. sus

 

[Will Nolte]

And I guess I was wrong about Spidercide/Ben. I still think my idea was better than what they are doing...

 

[Shockdingo]

Huh. So Slott talked about Darkest Hour, Venom's cancellation and stated there will be no Venom ongoing after that. Well crap, there goes my hope for a Marvel Now2 relaunch. I just hope Spock doesn't job and kill Flash...

 

[cloverfan98]

I have to ask this out of curiosity is there any one here who honestly prefers Ock as Spidey to Peter? Yes I hate this current run of comics but I honestly am curious to see what people see in it that I don't.

 

[runawayboulder]

I have to ask this out of curiosity is there any one here who honestly prefers Ock as Spidey to Peter? Yes I hate this current run of comics but I honestly am curious to see what people see in it that I don't.

This is pretty much being discussed a few threads down:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=464219

Do I prefer Ock as Spidey? No but that doesn't mean that I'm not enjoying the hell out of this "era". It's flat out, great storytelling with elements of big action, drama and mystery.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Huh. So Slott talked about Darkest Hour, Venom's cancellation and stated there will be no Venom ongoing after that. Well crap, there goes my hope for a Marvel Now2 relaunch. I just hope Spock doesn't job and kill Flash...

Flash is a Spidey mainstay. He won't be killed. And even if he was, he'd "get better" before too long. It's a shame Venom is ending, but to be honest I thought it never hit the heights of its first couple arcs.

 

[Shockdingo]

Flash is a Spidey mainstay. He won't be killed. And even if he was, he'd "get better" before too long. It's a shame Venom is ending, but to be honest I thought it never hit the heights of its first couple arcs.

Yeah, I hope you're right. I've just learned not to hold my breath these days with general shock-value moments in all of media with unexpected turns and all hah. It is a shame Venom is going out. Even though there were some shifts in quality, I still had a mighty fun ride through all of it. The move to Phili was really starting to take off for Flash, and he's grown a lot. I just wish we were getting a relaunch instead of limbo. Well, not limbo, but Thunderbolts is all I'll have to get Flash and I'm still so-so on the book, even with the new team.

 

[runawayboulder]

Good god this book is truly Superior.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Spidey 2099 was too much to pass up. I'm caving for this arc. SpOck is the weak spot of the story and overly annoying, but the Spidey 2099 stuff was good. I don't see how this could be from the main 2099 universe unless Spidey 2099 goes back in the end, and I have a feeling he won't. In the main 2099, everything but the Savage Land was underwater by the end, so this has to take place prior to that event happening. But then, as soon as Marvel people said that this was the REAL Spidey 2099, I rolled my eyes. I could be proven wrong by him going back at the end of this story but doubt it.

Nonetheless, I thought Dan did a good job with him. Though I'm pretty sure he added to the 2099 "shock" vocabulary. It was a little distracting, but not bad. I remember when I was reading Slott's Big Time run, the first time I saw Tiberius Stone I thought "that's a wink at Tyler Stone from Spider-Man 2099". Glad to see I was correct.

 

[Naked Shia]

People were saying shock a lot in the 2099 series, I remember in the Spiderman meets spiderman 2099 story, Peter was annoyed by it.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Oh, I know Shock was in the vocabulary. But Dan added quite a few other words in there to go with it.

 

[Naked Shia]

sorry, I misunderstood you!

 

[Spidey_62]

Oh, I know Shock was in the vocabulary. But Dan added quite a few other words in there to go with it.

He might have added a few, I'm not sure. I dug it, though. He asked fans on Twitter a few months back for all of the 2099 slang terms.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Usually I like Spidey2099 stories, but latest issue just bored me. Wasn't bad, just didn't interest me. Maybe it's lacking Peter David's voice.