Comics The TB (X-Men style) (Spoiler Warning)

Captain Marvel #15 (#50)
The issue starts out as a bunch of Shi'ar, Skrull, and Kree are debating about what to do about Captain Marvel's insainity. When Captain Marvel comes all chaos breaks lose.
All the ships fly after him and he makes Rick Jones commit sucicide. Just as the universe is about to rip up, Marv's Mom comes and says that she will make everything better.
This was a stellar issue :D. Probably one of the best in the series and this will make a promising new story arc.
10/10
 
Originally posted by Lord Blackbolt
What happened to Kurt's girlfriend.... He had a real good thing going with his step-sister.


She is the ruler of Limbo, Blackbolt.

POST 600
 
I thought up some more questions to do with Kurt to get people thinking.

How much can weight can he actually teleport? Is there a fixed amount?

Is there any other color of fur an artist could of picked that would have made Nightcrawler look even better?

Which other X-man do you think would be a good match for Kurt (if there are any)?
 
Originally posted by doc ock rules!
I thought up some more questions to do with Kurt to get people thinking.

How much can weight can he actually teleport? Is there a fixed amount?

Is there any other color of fur an artist could of picked that would have made Nightcrawler look even better?

Which other X-man do you think would be a good match for Kurt (if there are any)?

1. They should really expand on this. There should be an issue back in the danger room which I haven't seen in a long time. Anyways he should be testing his limitations on how much he could transport and maybe something happens to him whehn he teleports too much.

2. I think blue was the best. I just took an image of him in photoshop and I don't think pink really is his color. Neither is anything else for that matter.

3. I always liked Nightcrawler single, but I think he should have a strong female friend. I always thought Storm was the one to do it, but seeing as how she's seemed to have lost her motherly attributes in X-Treme.

And I will officially join this TB.
 
Originally posted by Dwarf lord
here is my idea for a Nightcrawler story




When Nightcrawler wakes up he says "ay caramba" and finds out that everything after Husk joined the team never happend.

Of course that's what everyone want's but I really do enjoy the sub-plots of Uncanny. Not the actual story but the side-stories I enjoy reading very much. I think that they should find out that everything that happened with the whole Nightcrawler story was like a mind illusion or something for some inner meaning, I don't know what, but the whole Juggernaut and Northstar and the whole Xavier/Polaris/Xorn thing, the things should have actually happened. It only makes sense.


I think a really good Nightcrawler story would be, what if he gets stuck in his dimension which he uses to teleport? Has anyone used this story before? I've followed Nightcrawler but not much in Excalibur and his middle-early days before the Pheonix and everything.
 
What Nightcrawler do you like better?

Present Marvel (Austen)
Claremonts era
Evolution
Ultimate
Movie
 
Originally posted by usagicassidy
Of course that's what everyone want's but I really do enjoy the sub-plots of Uncanny. Not the actual story but the side-stories I enjoy reading very much. I think that they should find out that everything that happened with the whole Nightcrawler story was like a mind illusion or something for some inner meaning, I don't know what, but the whole Juggernaut and Northstar and the whole Xavier/Polaris/Xorn thing, the things should have actually happened. It only makes sense.


I think a really good Nightcrawler story would be, what if he gets stuck in his dimension which he uses to teleport? Has anyone used this story before? I've followed Nightcrawler but not much in Excalibur and his middle-early days before the Pheonix and everything.

Thats where he is at the moment, if im not mistaken. Its also the dimension that Abyss sucks everything into.
 
Art sucks, blows, spit, swallows, bites, and chews at the same time. It isn't so much Kordays Pencils, more the inks. They lins are too light and the atempt at a smooth, realistic panels come across as bland and uninspiring. They don't bear any weight, and are seem like an half-assed try at Hitch/Quietly style art. The Inks need to be heavy, and for the "modern" approach that Claremont is going with his stories, they need to incorperate more shading.

The panels don't work. Better put, they don't flow. One page will have four consecutive panels with Rogue (anna:rolleyes: ) doing the same thing from different angles, then the next will have her doing a million and one things whilst talking to everyone on earth over the space of 3 or 4 panels. I don't think this is so much the fault of Korday, as Claremont. I can't be certain, because I haven't read the script, but Korday's panel-to-panel skills where up to par on NXM, even though his drawings were rushed.

Which brings me to Claremont. Claremont hasn't wrote an truely interesting issue since "Schism", this is of course my opinion, and others will differ, some think GLMK2 was intruiging (not me), some think that everything with "Xtreme" somewhere in the title is inherently bad (not me either). To Me, Claremont seems tio have good ideas, but much like Austen on Uncanny, or Millar when he was on UXM, doesn't know how to put them onto the page, then fatten or thin them to 6 issue arcs. With that out, I can say that I find myself compelled to read Xtreme, but I don't enjoy it. It almost feels like a chore, I can't explain it. I like the idea of reverse racism, and the idea that X-copr are bending Xaviers dream, but we already saw the full blooded versin of X-men Vs Xavier in Shism, which, In my humble opinion, was much more interesting that a few friends discovering that a former ally has done the dirty.

To this issue. As said, the flow is reall off,it doesn't seem natural, like a movie. It almost feels like Claremont is recycling situations to fill the pages. The dialog is medioicre, which is out of place on a mainstream title. And the characterazation is sub-par. It's not as bad as Austens rendition of Nightcrawler, Havok, or Iceman, but it's not on. The strange thing about this is that these are the characters that Claremont created! Rogue is a fiesty minsx because Claremont made her one, Storm is a sturdy leader, with godlike abilitys because that's a character Claremont needed to drive one of his early stories. These are Claremonts children, and it seems that he's lost touch. The only characters with any form of solid foundation are Sam and Sage.

4/10
 
Thank You, Jugsy. and by the way how is my Avatar coming.

P.S are you joining us Mightiest Mortal?
 
Originally posted by Dwarf lord
What Nightcrawler do you like better?

Present Marvel (Austen)
Claremonts era
Evolution
Ultimate
Movie

Chris Claremont's version of Nightcrawler, when I first started to read x-men books claremont was drawing it, so claremont rules!!
 
Originally posted by Dwarf lord
What Nightcrawler do you like better?

Present Marvel (Austen)
Claremonts era
Evolution
Ultimate
Movie

Movie! :D :p
 
X-Men Unlimited #4 birth, Mystique sacrifices the boy to save herself

UXM Annual #4 pact with Stefan, who later goes insane, Kurt accidentally kills him

Giant Size X-Men #1 first appearance

CXM #4 begins using the image inducer, dared by Wolverine to walk through Salem Center without disguise

UXM #98 meets “Amanda Sefton”

UXM #102-103 discovers his shadow-melting talent

UXM Annual #4 placed in a simulacrum of Dante’s hell until Margali learns the truth and forgives him, learns Amanda and Jimaine are the same

UXM #141-142 first encounters Mystique

UXM #159 uses religious faith against Dracula

UXM #192 becomes temporary leader of the X-Men

UXM #196 questions his faith in God because of the Beyonder

UXM #204 breaks up with Amanda

UXM #209 teleportation power scrambled by Nimrod

UXM #211 lacerated by Riptide

UXM #215 transferred to Muir Island for medical treatment

UXM #227 awakens from coma

EXC #1 The Sword is drawn displays ability to teleport only once a day, helps to found Excalibur

EXC #4 attraction to Meggan

EXC #37 regains full teleportation powers

EXC #43 breaks his leg fighting jealous Captain Britain

EXC #45 forms the Technet into his N-Men

EXC #55 starts relationship with Cerise

EXC #63 abilities tested and explained by Cloud Nine

EXC #70 Cerise convicted to serve Shi’Ar Empire

EXC #75 Amanda returns as Day Tripper

X-Men Unlimited #4 learns Mystique is his mother

EXC #97 new look and costume

X-Men Unlimited #19 learns that Margali has been captured by Belasco and switched consciousness with Amanda, travels to Limbo, helps defeat Belasco and mother and sister get restored, Amanda remains behind as Limbo’s new guardian

EXC #125 Excalibur disbands

UXM #360, XM #80 rejoins the X-Men

XM #87 Astra hints to have some connection to his past

six month gap leaves the X-Men to become a priest

X-Men: Magik #1-4 helps Amanda to defend Limbo

XM #100-102 nearly killed by the Neo

XM #103 rejoins the X-Men

X-Men Unlimited #30 takes a leave of absence as he needs some time for himself to deal with Colossus‘ death

UXM #395 returned to the X-Men as full priest, part of the “Away Team”

UXM #400 encounters the Supreme Pontiff

UXM #408-409 falls back to his devil-may-care attitude, pretends that everything is alright



UXM= Uncanny X-Men
XM= X-Men (2nd series)
EXC= Excalibur
 
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First Appearence

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Originally posted by [Agent Smith]
Hmmm... haven't read too much Uncanny but I'm a bigger spidey fan than I am of X-men. I still like Nightcrawler.

My favorite X-men character has to be either Iceman or Archangel. What are your favorite characters and why??? Damn, I feel like my English teacher. lol :D

P.S.- This is doc ock rules!, so you don't have to add me to the list again.

Come on guys ansewer the question.
 
this crap with his father being Satan (not Satin) is ridiculous and appalling and destroys the character.
 
This arc starts off at a fairly good pace, the opening of the issue is intruiging, and you do generally want to know what is going on. The way Spidey is brought into the picture is believeable, and the first issue keeps an all round consistancy.

Then we move to the next issue which gets even better, dialog is top notch, flow, characterazations, but then, the lame ass, stupid, and utterly useless ending, from here things get real bad, real quick.

The Next 3 issue consists of bendis warming his gloves with Ultimate daredevil because Mack stole the MU counterpart for 5 issues (ohh, poor Bendis). The story becomes pointless, and decends into bendis using clishe dialog, and stupid plots just so Wolverine, Daredevil, and Spidey can tussle with a bunch of Weapon X people.

Then the Xmen come in, er, no, they don't. #38 starts off cool, with weapon X mojo, then gets real bad, real qui.....so fast that it's unreal. if there's one thing that piss's me off it's overusing a character and making them bland. Now the only thing that rivals Logan as far as the X-universe is concerned for overuse, it's jean/pheonix. jean is *****y, and it's just too bad to discribe. And the last issue, while not as bad as the ones with daredevil in, is pretty bad. There's a cool badass SHIELD agent intoduced, but that's about it.

The art and covers are superb all the way through, but this is the Ultimate (AKA "Focus all talent on...") line.

#34 = 7/10
#35 = 8/10
#36 = 2/10
#37 = 2/10
#38 = 5/10
#39 = 4/10

basically, if you want to read a good UXM story, get "Tommorow People", or "Return of the King":)
 
Can I get in?

Anyway, on Captain Marvel 15, I gave it a lowly 8.5/10 because the artist had trouble apperently adjusting to the discint (sp?) Marv feel... That's just IMO.... Chriscross was leagues better, and even the Ryan guy from the issue before was Damned good... The only thing I don't like in Chriscross style is Marv's hair, but that's because I used to the Carlos Pacheco, Ryan kind of feel of a version...
 
yeah, can you expect us to turn you out? hey, i was wonderin' whaddaya think about nightcrawler's dad bein' satan? really gay, huh- well, then how is his mom mistique/ how can they have been 2gether?
 
Originally posted by RPG swordmaster
yeah, can you expect us to turn you out? hey, i was wonderin' whaddaya think about nightcrawler's dad bein' satan? really gay, huh- well, then how is his mom mistique/ how can they have been 2gether?

I think that his dad being Satan is a pretty stupid idea since Nightcrawler isn't that evil... but having his mom being Mystique is cool. :up:
 
ya, same here- what i mena is, how do SATAN & MISTIQUE GET TOGETHER (if ya know what i mean.....)
 
Me and RPG Swordmaster are writing a comic and we wanted the TB to help us with some stories. Below are the new characters and a breif history of what has happend.

Channel (Christopher James Braddock): Enormous mental strength gives him alpha-level telepathic abilities, allowing him to read minds, project his thoughts at others, release his astral form to travel great distances in reality or enter the psychic plane, stun others into paralysis or unconsciousness, and manipulate perceptions, memories and thought processes. can be activated to teleport him through his extra-dimensional access while accompanied by a burst of flame, a stench of brimstone, and a “bamf“ noise. Can turn negative energy in to psy beams he shoots from his hands. His psionic power gives him superhuman strength and intellect. The ability to arrange and re rearrange the molecular structure of an object changing its shape. London, England. Son of Archangel and Psylocke.

Sprint (Hallie Parker): Accelerated metabolism and leg strength allow her to move and react at superhuman speeds, perceive her environment at high velocities, recuperate in a fraction of the regular time, and resist the debilitating effects of air friction and high-speed impact upon the soles of her feet. The Pheonix Force gave her the ability to stimulate individual molecules to create heat, and generate concussive bursts and protective shields. Napa, California. Daughter of Flint and Maddie Parker. (no relation to Spider-Man)

Gargoyle (Beaufort Alexander Seyvil): Turn him self in to stone, leathery wings cause flight. Enhanced strength, instincs, senses, endurance, and slight invunerablity, also has super ariel and ground speed. Double hinged joints. alter his body at a sub-molecular level to morph to stone. Paris, France. Unknown parents.

Spark (Jeb Guthrie): generate bio-electrical charges from his hands that burn or cause paralysis. psionically emits an electromagnetic wave-pulse that can scan and perceive existing energy fields, or scramble the human brain's neural chemistry. absorb and amplify electrical energy, using it to supercharge his body and increase his size, strength, and durability. able to create electrical interference to disable machinery. vaporized chest cavity is filled with a fluctuating energy field that he manipulates through psionic biokinesis; he communicates telepathically through broad or personal thought projection and projects bionuclear energy discharges. Cumberland, Kentucky. Same parents as Cannonball and Husk.

Ox (James Isaac Thunderchild): superhuman size, strength, speed, agility, stamina, endurance, reflexes, dexterity, intelligence, reflexes, and acrobatic prowess, enhanced senses, healing abilities Ox like adamantium horns that can be pulled out to use as daggers and then they rebuild them selves. Rapid City, Iowa. Unknown parents.

Arachnia (Brianna Lynn Cassidy): possesses superhuman strength, reflexes and equilibrium; the ability to cling to most surfaces; and a sixth sense that warns her of impending danger. Arachnia's wrist-mounted web-shooters discharge thin strands of web-fluid at high pressure. On contact with air, the long-chain polymer knits and forms an extremely tough, flexible fiber with extraordinary adhesive qualities. 8 limbs s. Belfast, Ireland. Daughter of Mary Jane and Spider-Man. Adopted by Siryn.

Barracuda (Keoni Gerald Okowaga): amphibian, and breaths water and air with equal facility. He can lift about 85 tons at peak capacity. Abel to fly for several hours at speeds of up to 60 mph before tiring, and he possesses limited invulnerability. Aquatic mutation gives him facial fins, deep-sea vision, and allows him to breathe underwater, leg and arm fins, Fish like appearance. Water manipulation. And water cannons. Maui, Hawaii. Unknown Parents.

Quake (Geoffrey Eugene Braddock): Psionically creates earthquakes. Rock manipulation. Generates seismic energy to affect inorganic matter, causing it to shatter or disintegrate and create a tidal effect in the earth beneath his feet, propelling and manipulating that surface. Turns body in to solid rock with superhuman strength, endurance and durability. communicates with rocks. London, England. Son of Captain Britain and Meghan.

Network (Justine Elizabeth Howard): Advanced memory storage and total recall, sense mutants, initiate evolution within mutants, unleash potential mutations within others, reverse mental attacks directed at her against their owners. Her Cerebral cortex is on the same frequency as the survival chips encased in the brains. Everwood, Colorado. daughter of Lyz and Jeff Howard.

Portal (Catherine "Catie" Jemison): manifests spacial-shearing ability as teleportation portals for large groups of people. or energy shafts focused on her javelins that displace objects upon contact, either teleporting them or away disrupting them on a molecular level. teleportation through time and space. Solar generated plasma blasts. Castle Dior, Karnak.

Optic (Oswald Elliot Benes): X-ray and telescopic vision, discharge absorb ambient solar energy and electricity and metabolize it into explosive laser beams discharges from his eyes. Toronto, Canada.

Personalitys and students coming later
 
Originally posted by RPG swordmaster
ya, same here- what i mena is, how do SATAN & MISTIQUE GET TOGETHER (if ya know what i mean.....)

I think I know what you're talking about. LMAO. :D
 

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