The Temple of Doomed Relationships

[DV8]

So my point is, everyone.that while there r exceptions, most guys r.friends w attractive females cuz.they wanna smash Lol a lot of dudes just got stuck in the friend zone and kinda hang out there in limbo hoping one day to get some action...some of them r no longer a threat, some of them r...its human nature to connect w.the opposite sex and become intimate...so if I'm in a committed relationship, there will b clear boundaries between my girl and her "male friends"

 

[BrollySupersj]

So my point is, everyone.that while there r exceptions, most guys r.friends w attractive females cuz.they wanna smash Lol a lot of dudes just got stuck in the friend zone and kinda hang out there in limbo hoping one day to get some action...some of them r no longer a threat, some of them r...its human nature to connect w.the opposite sex and become intimate...so if I'm in a committed relationship, there will b clear boundaries between my girl and her "male friends"

Which will most likely end badly for you. You set boundraies, especially ones that pretty much limit what a girl can do with a friend, you'll be branded as "controlling" and "possessive". Which would probably drive whatever girl you're seeing to her friends for advice, and they'll probably convince her to dump you.

 

[DV8]

At the time I was still hung up on some other girl and after all that blew up, I wasn't really interested in moving on to another girl at the time. Plus I wouldn't really say she's my type because she's my height (even though sometimes she seems taller) and that's sort of a turn-off for me. Plus we because such good friends that it would've been weird if I ever looked at her in that way.

Thats very respectable...I have a couple gorgeous ladyfriends that I would never pursue in that way either cuz of their height but if we got drunk one night it might b different...u r respecting her relationship though, and respecting boundaries cuz u understand they r there...

 

[SpideyVille]

Thats very respectable...I have a couple gorgeous ladyfriends that I would never pursue in that way either cuz of their height but if we got drunk one night it might b different...u r respecting her relationship though, and respecting boundaries cuz u understand they r there...

Yeah like I actually met another girl through her and it was sort of the same case, I was hung up on some other girl and even though I thought this girl was attractive and was more my type, I never tried anything because her personality made her seem like the kind of girl I was better off avoiding. But after having a class together we became close and I'd say she's my best friend because I saw a different side of her. And yeah sometimes I wish something would happen between us now, but I know we would be looking for different things, and I kind of put myself in the friend zone since she had a boyfriend at the time, so I just enjoy the time we spend together without worrying about trying to make moves or stuff because I wasted a lot of good time doing that with other girls.

 

[HisMagicTrick]

Its about passionately crushing the modern social rules that constrict us in our soft cushioned existence, and making the act instinctive aggressive and carnal.

She is doing something against the rules herself by taking that seemingly innocent body of hers into the dimly lit lair of a man who does not abide by all of our modern social "rules".

Throwing aside all of the inhibitions as he consumes her, as if all the confines of her proper life are being torn asunder by the forces of nature and lust.

In this place she is allowed to fully revel in a violent and erotic act.

Permission does not exist into that domain.

Wow. You should be an S&M erotica writer.

 

[DV8]

Which will most likely end badly for you. You set boundraies, especially ones that pretty much limit what a girl can do with a friend, you'll be branded as "controlling" and "possessive". Which would probably drive whatever girl you're seeing to her friends for advice, and they'll probably convince her to dump you.

Not at all...like I said I'm not a controlling or jealous person at all...Ive done this many times with no negative reprecussions...the way u present this concept isnt in a.lecturing set of rules dictatorship kind of way, it's in a way I just proved my point with your specific circumstances

The bottom line is my girl also doesnt want me runnin around clubbin w hoodrats, or hanging out w women all the time either...theres boundaries drawn on both sides

 

[DV8]

Yeah like I actually met another girl through her and it was sort of the same case, I was hung up on some other girl and even though I thought this girl was attractive and was more my type, I never tried anything because her personality made her seem like the kind of girl I was better off avoiding. But after having a class together we became close and I'd say she's my best friend because I saw a different side of her. And yeah sometimes I wish something would happen between us now, but I know we would be looking for different things, and I kind of put myself in the friend zone since she had a boyfriend at the time, so I just enjoy the time we spend together without worrying about trying to make moves or stuff because I wasted a lot of good time doing that with other girls.

Thats awesome u appreciate that and if shes got hot friends u can use her as.an asset to access them lol

 

[SpideyVille]

Thats awesome u appreciate that and if shes got hot friends u can use her as.an asset to access them lol

Haha she actually invited to take me out clubbing for my birthday with a bunch of her friends which I'm considering, even though she told me if I get drunk and act inappropriately with any of them, then she's stop talking to me altogether, so let's just see about that.

 

[DV8]

Haha she actually invited to take me out clubbing for my birthday with a bunch of her friends which I'm considering, even though she told me if I get drunk and act inappropriately with any of them, then she's stop talking to me altogether, so let's just see about that.

HA! Just b smooth about it if u make a move on her.friends and if she says anything playfully make fun of her and call her jealous

 

[OctaviusINC]

The bottom line is my girl also doesnt want me runnin around clubbin w hoodrats, or hanging out w women all the time either...theres boundaries drawn on both sides

I understand where you're coming from. My girlfriend is very cute and therefore has guy friends. I'm not completely thrilled about it. There's this dude she went to high school with that she's still friends with. He's always buying her little gifts on holidays. That annoys me. There's another from work that she hangs out with every once in awhile that I really don't like because he tries and gets with every girl at work.

I always tell her that I don't think about other girls. I think about her. I'm not a *****ey boyfriend. I always say that I trust her, I just don't trust anyone else. And I truly do trust her. It's those guys that bug me. I'm a guy. I know how we tick. When you're single you don't go and hang out with girls who you think are attractive just because I enjoy their company and conversation. You want more.

 

[DV8]

I understand where you're coming from. My girlfriend is very cute and therefore has guy friends. I'm not completely thrilled about it. There's this dude she went to high school with that she's still friends with. He's always buying her little gifts on holidays. That annoys Ime. There's another from work that she hangs out with every once in awhile that I really don't like because he tries and gets with every girl at work.

I always tell her that I don't think about other girls. I think about her. I'm not a *****ey boyfriend. I always say that I trust her, I just don't trust anyone else. And I truly do trust her. It's those guys that bug me. I'm a guy. I know how we tick. When you're single you don't go and hang out with girls who you think are attractive just because I enjoy their company and conversation. You want more.

Yes that is EXACTLY what I'm saying...it's great that u have that trust with your girl cuz.thats the foundation of every relationship...I will.never commit to a woman I dont trust...been burned too many times

 

[Anita18]

Your posts sure make it sound like you wantonly do these things. Perhaps my interpretation is a little more extreme than the reality.

I have the feeling SuperMike pictures us as gutless pansies while we picture him as a lumbering Neanderthal.

I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle...

Facebook friends are different though . . . I don't care how many FB friends my girl has; as long as she's not hanging out with them in person

Oh, but I am. Not all the time though - we made outings for the TDKR prologue (twice ) and I go to Polaris23's art shows. With my bf. So some of them have met him, and he's met some of them. We're totally just friends, seriously.

I'm still planning on dressing up as Catwoman for the midnight premiere with a group of male SHHers. Of course the bf will be coming - once I told him I'd be in skintight lycra, he was totally on board.

But yeah, I'm a total tomboy. One time in college I was cramming for a cell bio final in a conference room with two other guys - one gay, one straight. The straight one was so frustrated/sleep-deprived that he started putting up porn pics up on the conference room HDTV screen. Of course he didn't think of me as someone he could bang, I was just one of the guys. And the gay guy was making jokes about my vajayjay. It was a loooong night.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Dude, I'm not either, but you don't have to be. What you have to do is respect her, and respect yourself. That's all you basically need.

I've known people who've had dozens of relationships that don't last because they don't know that.

That's true and all, and yeah you need that for the basis of any relationship really.

But respect is earned right? And isn't that sense of ALL THINGS RIGHT when you see that other person something else entirely? If she's not feeling that then how can it ever work?

Edit: I'm guessing never.

 

[BrollySupersj]

EDIT:bah, forget it.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

ok, so youre not a tomboy...there r sometimes other (but very few) exceptions...ps, u r in a superhero forum w a Superman avvy...u r kind of a tomboy for that alone....Ive known a few chicks that were girly, but still into sports and superheroes with guy friends and also had boyfriends but I hung out with them AND THEIR BOYFRIENDS; I didnt really just hang out w them alone thats disrespectful to the dude...now some girls had bfs and I DID hang out w them alone, and didnt care cuz their bfs were *****ebags...most of them I ended up sleeping with; a couple were even married; am I proud of that? No, but thats why there have to b BOUNDARIES

You make a blanket statement and then start back pedalling with 'Oh but there are exceptions...'

Nice try, but its too late i'm afraid. The offense is very much taken already, no matter how much you try to back out of what you said.

Which will most likely end badly for you. You set boundraies, especially ones that pretty much limit what a girl can do with a friend, you'll be branded as "controlling" and "possessive". Which would probably drive whatever girl you're seeing to her friends for advice, and they'll probably convince her to dump you.

Not at all...like I said I'm not a controlling or jealous person at all...Ive done this many times with no negative reprecussions...the way u present this concept isnt in a.lecturing set of rules dictatorship kind of way, it's in a way I just proved my point with your specific circumstances

The bottom line is my girl also doesnt want me runnin around clubbin w hoodrats, or hanging out w women all the time either...theres boundaries drawn on both sides

In my mind, a guy can have as many female friends as he wants as long as it's obvious there are no romantic feelings there. Heck, i've even been fine with a guy hanging out with his ex!

So my point is, everyone.that while there r exceptions, most guys r.friends w attractive females cuz.they wanna smash Lol a lot of dudes just got stuck in the friend zone and kinda hang out there in limbo hoping one day to get some action...some of them r no longer a threat, some of them r...its human nature to connect w.the opposite sex and become intimate...so if I'm in a committed relationship, there will b clear boundaries between my girl and her "male friends"

I understand where you're coming from. My girlfriend is very cute and therefore has guy friends. I'm not completely thrilled about it. There's this dude she went to high school with that she's still friends with. He's always buying her little gifts on holidays. That annoys me. There's another from work that she hangs out with every once in awhile that I really don't like because he tries and gets with every girl at work.

I always tell her that I don't think about other girls. I think about her. I'm not a *****ey boyfriend. I always say that I trust her, I just don't trust anyone else. And I truly do trust her. It's those guys that bug me. I'm a guy. I know how we tick. When you're single you don't go and hang out with girls who you think are attractive just because I enjoy their company and conversation. You want more.

And if you don't find them attractive?

What if you just think they are a cool person, they are good company, they make you laugh, they are fun on a night out, they are cool to watch a movie with, have a few beers with, go running with etc etc.

Is it impossible to concieve of a friendship between a man and a woman that has absolutely nothing to do with what you penis wants?

 

[LOBO3315a]

It has been my experience that if someone is friends with someone of the opposite sex, one of them has unrequited horniness. It may develop into a friendship, but it's still there for one of them.

I can really think of one woman I was friends with that I didn't start off with me thinking she was hot. I can't speak for her, but my X thought she carried a torch for me. Kind of funny now, because she's a lesbian living with her girlfriend hundred of miles away.

 

[SpideyVille]

It has been my experience that if someone is friends with someone of the opposite sex, one of them has unrequited horniness. It may develop into a friendship, but it's still there for one of them.

I can really think of one woman I was friends with that I didn't start off with me thinking she was hot. I can't speak for her, but my X thought she carried a torch for me. Kind of funny now, because she's a lesbian living with her girlfriend hundred of miles away.

See, I kind of believe this because its usually the case for me where I'll make myself more available for the friends that I think are more attractive, but then I think back to some of the girls that I was friends with where I was using them a bit to help me get another girl. Maybe they were attracted to me, but some stood around and helped me whereas others slowly drifted apart because they did have feelings and were jealous.

Like when I was in church, I had a crush on one girl who wasn't always there, and I ended up talking to the girl that brought me to the church (which I did because I liked her) because I wanted her help with knowing what to do with this girl. But after a while, my old feelings came back and I started to like her again, so I went to another friend of ours for help. I didn't like or find attractive, but I knew she was a nice girl who would help so I took advantage of that. I remember my pastor had to talk to me because he thought I was playing both girls because of the same belief that one person is always attracted to the other and it pissed me off because that really wasn't the case and the girl I liked ended up not talking to me anymore after that.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

I have a lot of female friends who are hot but honestly would never try anything with. Maybe they have some schoolgirl crush but we also have history together, so I'm going to hang out with them regardless.

 

[DV8]

I have the feeling SuperMike pictures us as gutless pansies while we picture him as a lumbering Neanderthal.

I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle...


Oh, but I am. Not all the time though - we made outings for the TDKR prologue (twice ) and I go to Polaris23's art shows. With my bf. So some of them have met him, and he's met some of them. We're totally just friends, seriously.

I'm still planning on dressing up as Catwoman for the midnight premiere with a group of male SHHers. Of course the bf will be coming - once I told him I'd be in skintight lycra, he was totally on board.

But yeah, I'm a total tomboy. One time in college I was cramming for a cell bio final in a conference room with two other guys - one gay, one straight. The straight one was so frustrated/sleep-deprived that he started putting up porn pics up on the conference room HDTV screen. Of course he didn't think of me as someone he could bang, I was just one of the guys. And the gay guy was making jokes about my vajayjay. It was a loooong night.

LOL . . . right; that's awesome I have friends like that too . . . but see, there may be some sexual innuendo once in a while; that's cool; it's to be expected, but like you said, your BF is there for most of it . . . and I'm sure any sexual innuendo that your friends might get away with alone, won't happen when your BF is around . . .

 

[DV8]

You make a blanket statement and then start back pedalling with 'Oh but there are exceptions...'

Nice try, but its too late i'm afraid. The offense is very much taken already, no matter how much you try to back out of what you said.





In my mind, a guy can have as many female friends as he wants as long as it's obvious there are no romantic feelings there. Heck, i've even been fine with a guy hanging out with his ex!





And if you don't find them attractive?

What if you just think they are a cool person, they are good company, they make you laugh, they are fun on a night out, they are cool to watch a movie with, have a few beers with, go running with etc etc.

Is it impossible to concieve of a friendship between a man and a woman that has absolutely nothing to do with what you penis wants?

I wasn't back peddling . . . and if you are offended, I'm afraid I really don't care LOL

there are exceptions to the male friends which are: childhood friends; gay friends; and "cousins"; maybe you have a lot of male friends and aren't a ****; but if that's the case and you aren't a tomboy (which you really kind of are because you are in these forums), you are oblivious to the fact that your male friends all secretly want to have sex with you, or have at some point IF YOU ARE ATTRACTIVE; if you aren't attractive, you might just be a cool person that they like to hang out with and that's the other exception: UNATTRACTIVE WOMEN; sorry ladies, not everyone is beautiful and perfect, and men have no choice but to appreciate you for your personality

other than those, there are VERY FEW other reasons why "male friends" are talking to you or hanging around other than they are waiting to get laid . . . now again, some of these males can be seen as "threats" and some aren't; but like I said, I'm also not going to be going out every night, clubbin and bar hopping and hanging out with all kinds of females . . . because most of them, guess what? I WOULD HAVE SEX WITH. It's male instinct . . .

 

[DV8]

It has been my experience that if someone is friends with someone of the opposite sex, one of them has unrequited horniness. It may develop into a friendship, but it's still there for one of them.

EXACTLY . . .

I can really think of one woman I was friends with that I didn't start off with me thinking she was hot. I can't speak for her, but my X thought she carried a torch for me. Kind of funny now, because she's a lesbian living with her girlfriend hundred of miles away.

OH . . . the irony

 

[Erzengel]

I always had more friends of the opposite sex. I always got along with them better. But, being with someone, long enough, you just spend more time with them and it makes hanging out with them fewer and far between.

 

[DV8]

yeah that's another good point Erz . . . eventually when you grow older and involved in more serious relationships, your family kind of takes the place of your friends' companionship; especially when you start having kids; basically, when people get married, they start hanging out with other married couples . . .

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I wasn't back peddling . . . and if you are offended, I'm afraid I really don't care LOL

there are exceptions to the male friends which are: childhood friends; gay friends; and "cousins"; maybe you have a lot of male friends and aren't a ****; but if that's the case and you aren't a tomboy (which you really kind of are because you are in these forums), you are oblivious to the fact that your male friends all secretly want to have sex with you, or have at some point IF YOU ARE ATTRACTIVE; if you aren't attractive, you might just be a cool person that they like to hang out with and that's the other exception: UNATTRACTIVE WOMEN; sorry ladies, not everyone is beautiful and perfect, and men have no choice but to appreciate you for your personality

other than those, there are VERY FEW other reasons why "male friends" are talking to you or hanging around other than they are waiting to get laid . . . now again, some of these males can be seen as "threats" and some aren't; but like I said, I'm also not going to be going out every night, clubbin and bar hopping and hanging out with all kinds of females . . . because most of them, guess what? I WOULD HAVE SEX WITH. It's male instinct . . .

Your acting as though attractiveness is a black and white deal.

I have a lot of male friends who don't find me attractive in that way, and don't want to sleep with me. That doesn't make me unattractive. There are plenty of men that find me attractive, that I know for a fact.

I really don't know why I seem to be the only one in this thread who finds what your saying so completely ridiculous.

 

[DV8]

Your acting as though attractiveness is a black and white deal.

I have a lot of male friends who don't find me attractive in that way, and don't want to sleep with me. That doesn't make me unattractive. There are plenty of men that find me attractive, that I know for a fact.

I really don't know why I seem to be the only one in this thread who finds what your saying so completely ridiculous.

because you're skating around the facts Lol

I didn't say you were unattractive (you might be, you might not be); but the people that find you attractive and interesting are going to pursue you; these people are not your male friends anymore, are they?

now while I know you're going to say something like "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" or "attractiveness is subjective", let's be honest with each other here and concede that most people are either "attractive" "average" or "unattractive"; if you're 5'9" and weigh 350lbs, you are not attractive to most males; you might have a ****TON of male friends, but none of them are trying to bone you, in fact it might be the opposite . . .