The Too Human Hype Thread

[Substance D]

FF13, as far as I know, hasn't been shown as anything but a CG movie, which will probably represent at least half the game, so that's not really a valid comparison. As for Mass Effect, I agree that it looks much better graphically, but it's not really a slam dunk or a "10x" type difference. Both games are some of the most beautiful games we've seen from 'next gen'.

i was talking art direction wise

 

[Manny Calavera]

I generally don't see art direction much. I mean, I can see that Viva Pinata and Okami look awesome, but unless a game is doing something like that, the "art direction" looks the same to me

 

[Hannar]

Sorry, don't know anything about a possible versus mode online. The way it has been described by a few producers so far is a Diablo/Phantasy Star type online experience.

 

[블라스]

4 player co-op, I doubt the versus mode will be there, but who knows.

Sweet enough.

 

[Manny Calavera]

This is probably one of maybe, three games that can actually compete with Mass Effect's visuals

 

[Horrorfan]

I FINALLY saw the e3 demo on a friends computer.


This looked like warmed up ass.

It had slowdown with about FIVE enemies on screen.

I know it might be better with a lot of work, but seriously, SK should scrap this and go straight to ED2

 

[WhatsHisFace]

I FINALLY saw the e3 demo on a friends computer.


This looked like warmed up ass.

It had slowdown with about FIVE enemies on screen.

I know it might be better with a lot of work, but seriously, SK should scrap this and go straight to ED2

You didn't read the first post.

 

[Manny Calavera]

I can't believe there are people who are still *****ing about the E3 demo. Uh oh guys, I heard the very first compile of Gears of War crashed once or twice, better not buy it either, works in progress are great indicators of the final product after all

 

[Horrorfan]

Well, bright spark, it's not exactly clever to put your game on display if it looks THAT ****ty at a trade show, for god's sake

It would be like announcing a new car at an automobile show that sounds awesome, but the prototype on show is ****ty and falling apart.

 

[WhatsHisFace]

Why? Because NO ONE at E3 understands how games are made?

First, it's Microsoft who made the decision to show the game in it's form, because that's how they do things. They've always said "developers make games for release, not E3" so they kind of expect people to grasp that relatively easy concept. That's why they don't make CG movies and claim it's gameplay (Killzone 2).

Second, it's been made widely known that the reason for the slowdown was SC putting things into the game that were supported in UE3.004 while they only had UE3.003 (or whatever number, you get my point, they missed an update) so the problem actually fixed itself months ago.

 

[Horrorfan]

Why? Because NO ONE at E3 understands how games are made?

First, it's Microsoft who made the decision to show the game in it's form, because that's how they do things. They've always said "developers make games for release, not E3" so they kind of expect people to grasp that relatively easy concept. That's why they don't make CG movies and claim it's gameplay (Killzone 2).

Second, it's been made widely known that the reason for the slowdown was SC putting things into the game that were supported in UE3.004 while they only had UE3.003 (or whatever number, you get my point, they missed an update) so the problem actually fixed itself months ago.

E3 is a trade show. Period. You can make all the excuses you like, but it was THE place to show your wares. If the game isn't ready, just say it. Have some promo stuff in place. Anything would be better than a disasterous performance.

EVERY mag here picked up how terrible it was looking, especially given development time of what close to a decade now?

You show your game looking ****ty, you would be an idiot to be shocked when people say how it looked ****ty.

If it's not ready, don't show it. It's that simple. That preview alone damaged the games reputation among many mags and people like me.

The ONLY reason I am giving it the benefit of the doubt is because the makers of eternal darkness are doing it. If not, this game would have fell by the wayside for me.

 

[WhatsHisFace]

E3 is a trade show. Period. You can make all the excuses you like, but it was THE place to show your wares. If the game isn't ready, just say it. Have some promo stuff in place. Anything would be better than a disasterous performance.

EVERY mag here picked up how terrible it was looking, especially given development time of what close to a decade now?

You show your game looking ****ty, you would be an idiot to be shocked when people say how it looked ****ty.

If it's not ready, don't show it. It's that simple. That preview alone damaged the games reputation among many mags and people like me.

The ONLY reason I am giving it the benefit of the doubt is because the makers of eternal darkness are doing it. If not, this game would have fell by the wayside for me.

Dude, everyone knows previews mean absolutely nothing. Look at the online press, who gives basically everything a positive preview, and then the shock sets in when they give it a low score. (People actually complain about this often)

The previews don't mean a thing then, just like they don't mean a thing now. The game is going to release and that's what it will be judged on. They're not going to say "Well, we were going to give it a 9/10, but since it's E3 showing was so bad, we'll have to knock it down to a 7/10." No. It's not going to happen like that. The final game will be awesome and no one's going to remember it for anything else. Just how nobody cares about Halo's embarassing E3 showing or Brute Force's fantastic gameplay video (of a level and scenario that wasn't in the final game).

 

[Horrorfan]

Dude, everyone knows previews mean absolutely nothing. Look at the online press, who gives basically everything a positive preview, and then the shock sets in when they give it a low score. (People actually complain about this often)

The previews don't mean a thing then, just like they don't mean a thing now. The game is going to release and that's what it will be judged on. They're not going to say "Well, we were going to give it a 9/10, but since it's E3 showing was so bad, we'll have to knock it down to a 7/10." No. It's not going to happen like that. The final game will be awesome and no one's going to remember it for anything else. Just how nobody cares about Halo's embarassing E3 showing or Brute Force's fantastic gameplay video (of a level and scenario that wasn't in the final game).

I think it's going to be good, don't get me wrong, but that video looked shockingly bad. Not a little rough, but as bad as bad can be bad.

It was just a surprise to see it so poorly.

 

[WhatsHisFace]

I think it's going to be good, don't get me wrong, but that video looked shockingly bad. Not a little rough, but as bad as bad can be bad.

It was just a surprise to see it so poorly.

Well, I can certainly understand where you're coming from. It was rough, and some people over-reacted to it and even started rumors, but sometimes those people need to remember that these are the reasons why the game isn't out yet.

 

[Manny Calavera]

Eternal Darkness and Twin Snakes has given me all the faith in the world for Silicon Knights. This game is going to look awesome, play awesome, and be done at least by this time next year if not before that. No question about it.

 

[Manny Calavera]

Judging by this, and the shot of earth as the camera pulls out in the E3 trailer, the planet is mostly frozen like in Lost Planet, but several of the shots look, ya know, unfrozen. Weird

 

[WhatsHisFace]

Well the Vikings lived in a primarily frozen world (Scandinavia most of the year) so maybe the unfrozen parts mean something? I dunno.

 

[Manny Calavera]

It's Thursday, so Silicon Knights should be posting their blog on IGN today. Hopefully they give a big **** you to 1up for being idiots and helping to spread lies about the game, like they've done many times before. 1up's "gaming journalism" is trash

 

[WhatsHisFace]

But that's why Zenien likes them so much.

1up's lies:
Every 360 launch game = 7/10.
RE5 = PS3 exclusive.
Too Human = Restarting development.

I could go on, but I'd just fizz out.

 

[Manny Calavera]

They also said that UE3.0 wouldn't even run on the 360 before, I believe they said Ninja Gaiden 2 was or Jade Empire 2 was ps3 exclusive in spite of the people in charge of those games, and several others. 1up sucks, a lot.

 

[WhatsHisFace]

Oh yeah, those are true too. Hahaha, wow. That site sucks.

 

[Manny Calavera]

A Time for Concentration - Blog #18
Denis Dyack
Director

Over the past few months we have posted every week on various subjects that we believe are very important to Too Human and video game development. We hope that these blogs have been insightful and have really helped you understand what we consider the major pillars in game creation to be.

I for one have never really liked game blogs that talk about nothing or how someone may feel on one particular day. So the goal of our blogs was to balance giving interesting and substantive detail about our development process without giving too much of the game away. I hope that you feel as though we have shed some light on the game’s development. We are definitely happy with the results thus far.

In order to give you insight into every aspect of the game’s development process, we decided to have all the directors working on the game take turns writing about their respective areas of expertise. However, we are moving into a critical time in the game’s development and we need the team to be completely focused.

Click here for this awesome screen shot in 720p - 60fps!!!!!



With that said, we will likely post once a month for the next little while as we concentrate our efforts. We will then pick up the pace on the blogs once more at a later date. Please excuse this brief respite while we put forth our best efforts to make a game that meets everyone’s highest expectations.

Right now I can tell you that Too Human is really coming along very well and we can’t wait to show everyone the huge strides we’re making. It’s overwhelmingly good stuff and there will be several big reveals and announcements in the future - but don’t look for them to happen immediately. And, without fail, the mysteriously silent director will also post in the future – he has been very busy as of late ; ). His blog entry will likely be an eye opener.

n the interim, we will also try to quell any bogus rumors that may pop up from time to time. Tyco, please take you medication before reading further as it is not an Eternal Darkness announcement of any kind. Here is a recent piece on Eternal Darkness for those who are interested.




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Sounds like they're already crunching, which means good things for the game's release schedule. This game may actually make 2006, which is badass

 

[블라스]

If I see anyone posting "But...but....but the gameplay looks like crap, that demo sucked" YET AGAIN, I'm going to have a heart attack.
Seriously.
It angers me so much.
How many times can someone say it was nowhere near finished demo?

 

[WhatsHisFace]

The best loading screen ever is still Freedom Force's.

 

[WhatsHisFace]

If I see anyone posting "But...but....but the gameplay looks like crap, that demo sucked" YET AGAIN, I'm going to have a heart attack.
Seriously.
It angers me so much.
How many times can someone say it was nowhere near finished demo?

I saw the video of it running back on the PS1 and the graphics were terrible. I don't want this game anymore.