The Twelve

[TheCorpulent1]

How long have you been part of the anti-pants establishment?

 

[PhotoJones]

A while now. Ever since my roommate moved out.

 

[Darthphere]

Pants are all Eve's fault.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

A while now. Ever since my roommate moved out.

Well, that's understandable. If I ever live alone, I'm all about the boxers.

 

[PhotoJones]

Well, that's understandable. If I ever live alone, I'm all about the boxers.

I don't live alone. I just live with someone who doesn't mind seeing me in my underpants.

That's too much information...I apologize.

 

[Specter313]

http://internationalhero.co.uk/c/captainwonder.htm

Dear God, I hope they update his costume...

Wouldn't bet on it:

 

[Darthphere]

Stubble!

 

[PhotoJones]

That's awesome.

 

[Dread]

Blue Blade is rather flaming if you ask me. Capt. Wonder has a classic costume, but....

I think someone needs to tell JMS and this artist that the sort of wonky styles that flew in the 50's don't fly now. Firstly, men wear pants, unless they live underwater or are teenage sidekicks, and even THEY have been wearing pants for only the last 20 years.

Secondly, most costumes from the 50's need tweaks. Take Capt. Wonder. If he actually had, say, red leggings, he would have a perfect classic superhero design. Outdated but reasonable. Instead they are going for 100% perfect translation like pencilling by numbers, and that is a mistake. Marvel could use a JSA esque team, although with so few characters from the Golden Age still alive or viable I can understand JMS perhaps wanting to take lessor names and put his stamp on them. After all, alter Spider-Man and the fanboys howl; alter the background of Blue Blade and I doubt anyone will sniffle.

There are some Golden Age characters whose designs are outdated but retain some charm; Sentinal from JSA comes to mind there. And what did he have? PANTS.

So far we have seen 4 out of the 12; Witness, Black Widow, Blue Blade, and Captain Wonder. Blue Blade is just flamboyant beyond any hope, and Capt. Wonder just needs pants. I want this series to succeed, but it won't if all of the characters look utterly ******ed. Blue Blade could, on panel, slice through 100 people and skull-**** them, and I STILL couldn't take him seriously.

While we are on the subject, Colossus should have been given pants a long time ago.

 

[Specter313]

Blue Blade is rather flaming if you ask me. Capt. Wonder has a classic costume, but....

I think someone needs to tell JMS and this artist that the sort of wonky styles that flew in the 50's don't fly now. Firstly, men wear pants, unless they live underwater or are teenage sidekicks, and even THEY have been wearing pants for only the last 20 years.

Secondly, most costumes from the 50's need tweaks. Take Capt. Wonder. If he actually had, say, red leggings, he would have a perfect classic superhero design. Outdated but reasonable. Instead they are going for 100% perfect translation like pencilling by numbers, and that is a mistake. Marvel could use a JSA esque team, although with so few characters from the Golden Age still alive or viable I can understand JMS perhaps wanting to take lessor names and put his stamp on them. After all, alter Spider-Man and the fanboys howl; alter the background of Blue Blade and I doubt anyone will sniffle.

There are some Golden Age characters whose designs are outdated but retain some charm; Sentinal from JSA comes to mind there. And what did he have? PANTS.

So far we have seen 4 out of the 12; Witness, Black Widow, Blue Blade, and Captain Wonder. Blue Blade is just flamboyant beyond any hope, and Capt. Wonder just needs pants. I want this series to succeed, but it won't if all of the characters look utterly ******ed. Blue Blade could, on panel, slice through 100 people and skull-**** them, and I STILL couldn't take him seriously.

While we are on the subject, Colossus should have been given pants a long time ago.

Well, aren't we supposed to see the characters as they just wake up in the present time and are trying to acclimate themselves to the new times? It would make sense for them to still have their old, literal costumes then at the time at least. Maybe we'll see them get some slightly new stuff or such. Just a little early to condemn their designs when they could easily change them, IMO.

 

[PhotoJones]

Who's to say these are the only costumes these characters are going to wear? I bet once they "thaw" out in our time, they'll get a wardrobe change.

 

[Dread]

Well, aren't we supposed to see the characters as they just wake up in the present time and are trying to acclimate themselves to the new times? It would make sense for them to still have their old, literal costumes then at the time at least. Maybe we'll see them get some slightly new stuff or such. Just a little early to condemn their designs when they could easily change them, IMO.

Firstly, if fans didn't leap to conclusions after initial spoilers, message boards would be no fun.

Secondly, I can only hope you are correct. JMS' hit-to-miss ratio is fairly even and sometimes one can be amazed by what seems to be a logical conclusion isn't taken. I've learned that many times, the things that make the most sense almost never happen, and it can be mind boggling.

Thirdly, it seems every WWII hero and their mother was frozen. Blatently ripping off Capt. America's angle is starting to become very tiresome. Then again, JMS literally ripped off nearly every detail of sci-fi lore, from Trek to Wars to X-Men, to make Bablyon 5, so it doesn't surprise me.

 

[yenaled]

More Superheroes should wear no pants.

 

[roach]

wait so this isnt about the 12 mutants that are important to mutant destiny????

 

[PhotoJones]

Thank God, no.

 

[Dread]

Technically, since Black Widow was empowered by "Satan" (or one of the million demon lords who use that as an alias, like Mephisto or Marduk), one could say that she simply hasn't aged because she is rewarded for all the evil souls she brings to her master. I mean if some of these heroes have alternate explanations for surviving into the modern day, why not use 'em?

Man, talking about these characters outside of this topic will get annoying so long as we have two Black Widow's floating about. We'll have to put the real name in paragraphs like the Handbooks do all the time. That **** gets annoying.

 

[Dread]

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=123753

Sure enough, Capt. "No Pants" Wonder was next.

Next will be Dynamic Man.

Such obscure characters will allow JMS a lot of creative freedom, I simply hope they have some redesign tweaks to boldly charge into the 21st century.

Except Blue Blade, who needs a bullet in the brain. He's too flamboyant.

 

[Addendum]

Damn you Larsen and JMS for getting me to buy a superhero comic again

 

[The Geek Vault]

I'm so picking this up!

 

[PhotoJones]

Except Blue Blade, who needs a bullet in the brain. He's too flamboyant.

Homophobe.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Man, is the Blue Blade a flaming homosexual or what?

 

[Dread]

Homophobe.

You can be flamboyant and not homosexual. And be homosexual without being flamboyant. Blue Blade is just disturbingly flamboyant. I pray he's not gay, for the sake of other gay men. Sheesh. He reminds me of some of those creepy shirtless fellas who get arrested on COPS.

Man, is the Blue Blade a flaming homosexual or what?

He's flaming, I wouldn't call him homosexual...

 

[KangConquers]

You can be flamboyant and not homosexual. And be homosexual without being flamboyant. Blue Blade is just disturbingly flamboyant. I pray he's not gay, for the sake of other gay men. Sheesh. He reminds me of some of those creepy shirtless fellas who get arrested on COPS.



He's flaming, I wouldn't call him homosexual...

I'm straight as an arrow and I had a gay roommate who was more macho than I am. He just like stroodle instead of donuts.

 

[PhotoJones]

Today's reveal is David Bow--I mean, Dynamic Man.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=124292

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I hope he has nipple antennae.