The Dark Knight The villains that i dont want in any of the BB sequels.

trustyside-kick said:
A lot of people are using that movie as a reference and...I think they did a cool job with their monster designs for the most part. That is why having Clayface would not bother me in one of the Nolan films. Even though Man-Bat is not a favorite villain for me I do not think having him in the movie would be stupid either just because of the CGI thing. People keep taking the realistic approach too far with these films. :(

THe designs were nice, but the end porduct was pretty shabby especially since the tone of the movie was fairly serious/ I think VH wuld have done a lot better had it better CGI.
 
I want to see Azrael in a movie plain and simple. He'd be a rather interesting choice since he's not a typical all evil, Batman foe.

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^^^^^Wasnt he part of some strange martial arts cult? Would it be out of the question to make him a member of the League of Shadows under Ra's?
 
Well it would make for an interesting storyline if they tied it in with Knightfall as Ras would then have connections to Bane and to Azrael. The man who broke batman, and the man who took out the man who broke batman. Might be interesting, depends on how they do it. I'd still like to see Bruce be the one to take down Bane after getting horribly smacked up.
 
Anjow1060 said:
Well it would make for an interesting storyline if they tied it in with Knightfall as Ras would then have connections to Bane and to Azrael. The man who broke batman, and the man who took out the man who broke batman. Might be interesting, depends on how they do it. I'd still like to see Bruce be the one to take down Bane after getting horribly smacked up.

I remember in the cartoon. Bane broke the bat signal during a fight with Batman and eventually Batman pulled his venom tube and tied it to the broken bulb and electrocuted Bane. That would be cool to see.
 
7alex said:
I think Ventriloquest would be awesome as a sub villan.

Ya he is one of those villains that would obviously be a sub villain but a really good one. Since Falcone is behind bars in the first movie and The Ventriloquist grew up into a Mafia Family they could do a cool twist in the future films.
 
Keyser Sushi said:
Ventriloquist/Scarface can be creepy if done right. The thing about him is that it IS a ridiculous idea, but if the writers accept that and play up the insanity that would be necessary for a character to operate that way, it could be very unsettling.

He's not rediculous at all. A man who suffers from MPS and, because he can't deal with his darker urges, transfers them into a fetish he's created for himself. I ask you, is that not a perfect juxtaposition for Batman? I definatly want to see the Ventriloquist in a Batman movie.

In terms of Nolan's movies Clayface and Man-Bat are out. I could see Croc being done, remember his original background was simply a pro wrestler with a skin disease. He could be an effective enforcer. I don't want to see Holiday, I think that TLH is overrated and there is no need to rehash a plot that depends on far too much canon. I don't want to see Bane, he's a one dimensional 80's villian. No need for Ratcatcher.
 
Sandman138 said:
In terms of Nolan's movies Clayface and Man-Bat are out. I could see Croc being done, remember his original background was simply a pro wrestler with a skin disease. He could be an effective enforcer. I don't want to see Holiday, I think that TLH is overrated and there is no need to rehash a plot that depends on far too much canon. I don't want to see Bane, he's a one dimensional 80's villian. No need for Ratcatcher.

I loved TLH but I can understand about you not wanting to see Holiday. And it is not overrated...what is overrated is Batman: Year One and The Killing Joke. I disagree about Bane though, would be awesome for him to make an appearance. Killer Croc can be done but I dunno about wanting to see him in a future Nolan film.
 
I love Bane. He is a master strategist and he can see Batman as a challenge.
 
Sandman138 said:
He's not rediculous at all. A man who suffers from MPS and, because he can't deal with his darker urges, transfers them into a fetish he's created for himself. I ask you, is that not a perfect juxtaposition for Batman? I definatly want to see the Ventriloquist in a Batman movie.

That's what I'm saying. When I said it's ridiculous I just meant in terms of the dummy being the mob boss... it's a ridiculous image, but if you notice, I added that a good writer would make it work very well, and what I meant was exactly what you just described. As long as the psychology of the character is central to his being in the movie, it would work very very well.

In terms of Nolan's movies Clayface and Man-Bat are out. I could see Croc being done, remember his original background was simply a pro wrestler with a skin disease. He could be an effective enforcer. I don't want to see Holiday, I think that TLH is overrated and there is no need to rehash a plot that depends on far too much canon. I don't want to see Bane, he's a one dimensional 80's villian. No need for Ratcatcher.

I agree with all of that. :up:
 
ganstaman56 said:
k these are the Villains i dont want (and dont have a chance in hell of being in) any of the bb sequels.

1.Calender Man
2.The Ventriliquist
3.Clayface (he's just too Sci-Fi like for a live action realistic Superhero movie he seems like more of a Superman villain)
4.Killer Croc (see num. 3 explaination)
5.Man Bat (see num. 3 explaination. exept that Superman part)
6.Mad Hatter (worst villain ever next to Calender man)
7. Penguin (really crappy villain if they go wit the whole freak deal instead of him being normal and an aristocrat who runs an underworld nightclub and iz also a crimelord who runs a gang.

A post like this betrays lack of imagination. All of these villains can work very well if done correctly. Clayface, The Ventriloquist and The Penguin could especially be excellent characters.
 
Bane should definitely be in one of the later movies. I see him sharing a film with The Penguin.
 
Ronny Shade said:
A post like this betrays lack of imagination. All of these villains can work very well if done correctly. Clayface, The Ventriloquist and The Penguin could especially be excellent characters.

Yea and also, isn't Penguin one of the people rumored to be in the next one? Besides Black Mask and Joker.
 
Yeah, but "rumored" is the key word.

Penguin is rank with potential to be an amazing character.
 
I know. I was just saying cause he was on the list that the guy who made this thread came up with. The list of villains he does not want to see.
 
trustyside-kick said:
I know. I was just saying cause he was on the list that the guy who made this thread came up with. The list of villains he does not want to see.

Give him some credit! He said he doesnt want the circus freak Penguin, he wants the gangster Penguin.
 
Oh yea I know...I just did not want to be the one to say it outload. Thanks Ronny lol.

cerealkiller182- I know. And I agree if Penguin is in he should be the gangster one.
 
Okay. Here's some credit, gansterman. Take it.
 
Speaking of villains who could be great if written right...even though Firefly is not a huge villain to Bats like Joker is...with Nolan taking the whole realism approach to these movies they could very well make Firefly a main villain for a story or at least a big sub villain.
 
Ronny Shade said:
Yeah, but "rumored" is the key word.

Penguin is rank with potential to be an amazing character.

Ecspecially if played by Phillip Seymour Hoffman
 
penguin could be cool. but my big want is for the riddler to be how he was in TLH, an informer of sorts. Id love to see him play both sides and be a cool character through out the films as a side character. He could be in 2 and on, perhaps a build up character. I think scarecrow would be great in all the sequels, i mean joker needs a hook up for his toys and crane knows the underworld.
 
StorminNorman said:
I had never read a single Batman comic that had Julian Day before reading TLH and it in no way took away from the character. Batman mentioned that he was responsible for commiting crimes on Holidays - that is all that is needed. The way I would use the character is to never give him a name, simply have a shot of Batman walking down Arkham past a bald headed man with calender pages spread about his cell - lay people will think he is a nut, comic fans will know he is more.

Maybe this would not count but on wikipedia it says his first appearance was in the 50s. Detective Comics #259. I was saying it might not count because of the whole revamp of the comics in the 80s.
 
I was always under the impression he was an awfully silly character originally. I, however am rather unfamiliar with his origins.
 

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