The Wrestling Thread Is At Home Until Further Notice - - Part 141

[Donnie Darko]

It doesn't matter how good you are anymore. The concussion might of slowed him down but at the end of the day he's not best friends with Triple H. This has to be all about politics. One remark about Orton and they made him a jobber.

The weird thing to me is that he has the look. He reminds me of Shawn Michaels. It's almost shocking Vince is all over this guy. I have a man crush on Dolph Ziggler , lol

Triple-H wants people to suck up to him because that's what he did. He reached the place he is now because he carried the right bags and married the right girl.

And why the **** is he even involved in WM matches anymore, anyway? **** that guy. He drove me away from watching wrestling once (shortly after he killed Orton's momentum in 2004), an his bull **** is going to turn me away again.

I hope live crowds mix in Ziggler chants with their Bryan and Punk chants.

Ziggler, Punk, Jericho, Bryan, Edge, and Booker T (all guys Triple-H doesn't seem to think have "it") > Triple-H and Batista

 

[DarkSentinel]

It was a worked shoot. It should be replayed on Raw because not many people will be aware of it. I rarely check out the interviews on WWE.com or use the app. It could of been a great moment but that would defeat the purpose of shoving Orton, Batista, and Cena down our throats.



Also congrats to Pancakes on the anniversary. I don't know many people who watch wrestling and this thread is a blessing to me. It seems there is always something going on with wrestling and its fun to read you guys opinions.

Could HAVE!!! Not "could of". The contraction is "could've" so I guess I understand your confusion but I see it so much and I just want to yell. Zod DAMMIT it's COULD... HAVE!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats, Pancakes t:

 

[Lobo]

I love how all of Orton's wwe title reigns have been ruined by Trips. Randy has been better than he has in years, so despite his usual *****e atitude I do feel a litle bad for him, as his matches have been good.

Question if you guys were in charge, how would you rebuild the midcard? Guys like Barrett etc?

Personally I'd like to see Barrett call out Los Matadores and Torito pissed that he lost his Royal Rumble spot and just destroy all three of them. They're failures as an act, let them just come back as Primo and Epico.

As for Wrestlemania 30 the best main event would have been Cena vs Bryan for the title. Yeah, it would have been a SummerSlam rehash, but it would have been great. Bryan is the guy and the people have spoken. Cena gets the torch at XX only fitting he passes it at XXX. The only other thing I could see is Batista demanding his title shot before Wrestmania and beats Randy for the title, and Daniel Bryan as the number one contender faces Batista for the title, and wins to end the show. That would leave Randy trying to redeem himself by facing Taker, and Brock against someone else Sheamus I guess.

 

[DarkSentinel]

I'd have Rusev and Cesaro team up and dominate the tag team scene.

Fandango vs. R-Truth feud.

I'd have Barrett keep the "Bad News" gimmick (if only for the podium) but before he does the Bullhammer shout "I'm afraid I've got some BAD NEWS!" on the windup. Maybe put him in a program with Sandow. Both are likable enough to stay heels but provide some good entertainment.

I wouldn't unify the US and Intercontinental titles; after the Shield split up have Rollins and Ambrose feud over the US Title for a while (would work since Rollins hyped up Ambrose's title reign last night).

However, if the US/IC titles do become unified WWE should introduce a Television title. Or hell, we have so many Europeans in the mix now why not reintroduce the European Championship? That was one of my favorite belts back in the day.

 

[Kaleb]

I love how all of Orton's wwe title reigns have been ruined by Trips. Randy has been better than he has in years,t so despite his usual *****e atitude I do feel a litle bad for him, as his matches have been good.

Question if you guys were in charge, how would you rebuild the midcard? Guys like Barrett etc?

Personally I'd like to see Barrett call out Los Matadores and Torito pissed that he lost his Royal Rumble spot and just destroy all three of them. They're failures as an act, let them just come back as Primo and Epico.

As for Wrestlemania 30 the best main event would be Cena vs Bryan for the title. Yeah, it would have beena SummerSlam rehash, but it would have been great. Bryan is the guy and the people have spoken. Cena gets the torch at XX only fitting he passes it at XXX. The only other thing I could see is Batista demanding his title shot before Wrestmania and beats Randy for the title, and Daniel Bryan as the number one contender faces Batista for the title, and wins to end the show. That would leave Randy trying to redeem himself by facing Taker, and Brock against someone else Sheamus I guess.

good question? I guess I would try and build up the US title again,after the Shield split have Ambrose and Seth fight for the title and perhaps introduce Dolph Ziggler into the picture (similar to Benoit/Jericho and Angle IC title fued)

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Put Zayn and Nevill on the main roster
Drop the U.S. Title
Make Wade Barrett a beast
Cesaro go on a strong tweener run

Some things I can think of at the moment.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Although Jake "The Snake" Roberts had pushed for months for WWE to let him enter the 2014 Royal Rumble, WWE officials reportedly never even really considered it. They felt that letting him appear on Old School Raw was a good way to set up the announcement that he'd be going into the Hall of Fame and that he didn't need to be in the Royal Rumble.

 

[Kaleb]

I just saw this tribute for CM Punk

so awesome, it made me tear up I wish the wwe would bring back those old tribute videos.

 

[Karelia]

Could HAVE!!! Not "could of". The contraction is "could've" so I guess I understand your confusion but I see it so much and I just want to yell. Zod DAMMIT it's COULD... HAVE!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats, Pancakes t:

I loved those videos... All of them were great. The one where he talks about John Cena "figuratively" being on fire, not "literally" was great. t:

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

This thread and its creatures are the only reason I'm still here too.

It's too bad that you're busy during Raw's, but you gotta do what you gotta do and I respect that.

 

[Slushy]

I love how all of Orton's wwe title reigns have been ruined by Trips. Randy has been better than he has in years, so despite his usual *****e atitude I do feel a litle bad for him, as his matches have been good.

I never understood Hunter's handling of Randy. Spends a few years building him up to be a main eventer then when he does, he doesn't want to put Randy over.

- took the title off Randy a month after he won

- doesn't drop it back to him at WrestleMania 21 like he was supposed to because he wanted to put over Batista instead (although this actually worked out for the better with Batista Vs. Helmsley and Orton Vs. )

- drops the title (not by pinfall) to begin The Age Of Orton then beats him in return to end it

- makes Orton his PPV job boy for a few more months

- Even though he screwed Orton to begin with, he defeats Orton at WrestleMania 25 just because.

- overshadows Orton even when he's not wrestling anymore and treats him like he won the title for the first time.

I just don't get it.

 

[Rincewind]

Question if you guys were in charge, how would you rebuild the midcard? Guys like Barrett etc?

I'm not sure the midcard is the biggest problem, to be honest. Right now the main event is clogged as well, with no Punk and the possibility of Bryan getting buried.

But in any case, the US and the Intercontinental titles have to be made important once more. I'd keep the two belts separated on the two shows (the roster is big enough) and have them be the focus of feuds between guys who are almost ready to be elevated upwards.
For example, with the nearing end of the Shield, why not make Dean Ambrose and Roman Reigns fight over the US title? Since their animosity seems to stem from each thinking himself the best in the group, it's fitting they to prove it with the belt. Reigns is clearly chosen to go up - and I can't wait for it - but he's still kind of green; a nice, long feud with Ambrose (I'm thinking at least 2 PPVs long) and an eventual reign with the US title would do both of them more good than hotshooting them into the main event before they're ready. The important thing is to make the title itself seem important. From there, just continue on, with guys fighting over it on a much more regular basis. Let the title be the focus of promos, segments, feuds etc. The same goes for the Intercontinental belt.

Also, things can be shaken up every now and then by splitting up or forming teams for the Tag Division. If you have two clueless midcarders who aren't going anywhere, try to make a team out of them instead of letting them sit on their butts without even getting to be on TV. Maybe it won't make a difference most of the time, but it may also prove to be a good thing if even a few of those teams start gaining steam.

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[TX85]

When is Rusev suppose to debut on the main roster and on Raw or Smackdown tv?,He should tag with Cesaro as a new dominant force called"European Dominance"or Bulgarian&Swiss

 

[Kaleb]

F4Wonline.com reports that a top WWE Superstar, who asked to remain anonymous, asked them to print the following letter in this week's newsletter:

"Internet is so funny. You all read the sites so you all should know the 'plans' for Mania. None of those plans have Bryan in a title match so the internet exploding at the end of the show is beyond laughable. Plus dont hate on Rey, he didn't book himself as #30. The way most of you were acting the company should have called an audible and put Brooklyn Brawler as #30 just to piss you off even more. over 50,000 mania tix sold and a network that will change your life for ever is about to launch, so just relax and enjoy the product the company gives you. By the way, didn't you all **** on the wwe for the Sept - Nov ppvs last year and said you were done, but turned around to watch/buy the Rumble? Pittsburgh you were an awesome crowd and it was an honor to be in your building last night"

Spoiler

Rey probably wrote that letter

 

[TX85]

The one who wrote the letter seems like a massive"Vince McMahon/WWE Appologists"..I'm betting it was Cena

 

[Kaleb]

The one who wrote the letter seems like a massive"Vince McMahon/WWE Appologists"..I'm betting it was Cena

probably, but Cena has been very loyal to the wwe and would probably just tweet all that himself.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Cena would not hate on Bryan like that.

 

[Slushy]

It's Batista. He's friends with Rey.

 

[E-Man]

Question if you guys were in charge, how would you rebuild the midcard? Guys like Barrett etc?

I'd bring back King of the Ring, and have it on pay per view instead of ending it all on Raw. How they got rid of that is beyond me. It's so easy to build a KOTR winner, and there's a ton of ways you can use that to your advantage. Money in the Bank is cool, but it's pretty much a prop for a heel to let you know that they're going to cash it in at some point in time. It's been done too many times before although I like the match, and I want them to keep it around.

With KOTR you bring back the prestige of the midcard by having guys fight it out for something that holds a ton of stature. People know how big the King of the Ring is because of the crazy track record of who has won. You also can use that to push several people at once. The Shield is probably the best thing the WWE has going right now. Reigns would be the obvious favorite to win the KOTR. Ambrose is the guy with the best mic skills that can scheme his way into relevance with anything, but Rollins needs something big too while they push toward.

Imagine if Rollins, the forgotten about Shield member, actually gets to the final against Reigns and gives him all that he can handle, or even wins it. That would be huge, and it would give all three guys something after the break up. Reigns is the guy destined for stardom that lost a close match to a teammate, and they can use that to push him as a face. He decides that he needs to get better instead of focusing on the group line, and he vows to come back stronger than ever. Ambrose would be the guy who spent time giving inside info on all of Reigns' opponents, and that would get him a ton of heel heat on the new face. Build up to Reigns and Ambrose fighting it out for the newly unified IC title, that Ambrose won at the KOTR ppv, and Reigns goes over to get his big moment. Ambrose might lose, but he'd show great skills, and would go on as a master manipulator that is a thorn in Reigns' side. Ambrose could be the Norman Osborn of the WWE if they let him.

In all of this you got Rollins who is now getting the attention as a legit top guy. He's the youngest of the Shield, and this could thrust him into a feud with a guy like Sheamus or Del Rio. Guys want to take out the new King of the Ring, and they could use that to push him further.

This is just with the Shield, and neither of them have to win in this scenario. Sandow could do big things with being a KOTR winner. So could Dolph, or Cody. There is too much that could be built from the tournament that it's annoying that they aren't utilizing this better.

When it's not King of the Ring season I would have more tag team feuds. I think that the best way to revitalize the tag team division is to have more feuds besides whoever is challenging for the title. There needs to be angles between teams who hate each other regardless of where they are in the rankings.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I will laugh so hard if Randy Orton and Vince McMahon go in a fit of rage at the same time when the crowd craps all over the Title match.

 

[Wheels]

You know what? Forget this company. Wrestlers are going to run their mouth and act like my time and money don't matter. I'm done

 

[Karelia]

When is Rusev suppose to debut on the main roster and on Raw or Smackdown tv?,He should tag with Cesaro as a new dominant force called"European Dominance"or Bulgarian&Swiss

All I can say is... YES! That would be a new tag team I could dig.

The anonymous wrestler is Triple H.

 

[bullets]

Although Jake "The Snake" Roberts had pushed for months for WWE to let him enter the 2014 Royal Rumble, WWE officials reportedly never even really considered it. They felt that letting him appear on Old School Raw was a good way to set up the announcement that he'd be going into the Hall of Fame and that he didn't need to be in the Royal Rumble.

I'm ok with this. Jake's surprise return at old school raw was a great moment.

 

[bullets]

Spoiler

Rey probably wrote that letter

The internet didn't explode, it was the fans. The entire arena was booing. I'm sick of them blaming the internet.