The Wrestling Thread Is The Wrestling Thread 365 Days A Year! - Part 249

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  1. DarthSkywalker

    DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You

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    His remarks? He was homophobic and a racist. He was a complete bigot. Are you seriously trying to play that down?
     
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  2. Flash525

    Flash525 The Scarlet Messenger

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    Another Hogan then? :whatever:

    An industry full of corruption. Wouldn't surprise me if most of the talent had some skeletons in their closet, though I'm sure there are a few good examples; the likes of Daniel Bryan - always seems legit and a genuine nice guy, same goes for Cena, Rock, Jericho, Kane and Undertaker (though the latter understandably likes to keep his personal life ... personal). I don't know too much about the newer talent mind you.
     
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  4. DarthSkywalker

    DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You

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    These aren't skeletons in the closest. This is being an openly bigoted, awful human being. This isn't being an ******* like CM Punk. This is being a legitimately, all time awful human being. That WM 6 featured a pair of bigots in the main event is not a thing to be celebrated.
     
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  5. Flash525

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    You'll get no argument from me! :)
     
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  6. TheVileOne

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    No. I can't defend the things Warrior said. At the same time, many of WWE's most respected talents and executives are guilty of things that are just as bad if not worse.

    What about Triple H's remarks?

    What about Stone Cold Steve Austin being a wife beater?

    People tend to play all those things down. They condemn the Warrior, but then they will celebrate someone else.

    As far as homophobic remarks, AJ Styles used those terms very liberally on the independent scene over 10 years ago. AJ Styles who is the current WWE world champion.

    Ronda Rousey?

    https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/1/...eo-sandy-hook-shootings-government-conspiracy
     
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  7. Dr. Evil

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    Cena cheated on his first wife with Mickie James. The Rock said that he got into some trouble as a teenager.
     
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  8. TheVileOne

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    Ask Kenny Dykstra about John Cena sometime. Just because he's John Cena, does that make it OK? He also had an affair with Victoria while she was married.
     
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  9. DarthSkywalker

    DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You

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    So why would you join the parade of playing it down? A guy who said it was good that a man died because he played a gay character in the film.

    Your argument is to move the blame, while ignoring what one of your favorites did.
     
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  10. TheVileOne

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    I don't agree, and I will never defend him saying those things. I still like the work he did in the ring and respect the work he did.

    But it seems wrestling fans are willing to downplay and overlook things when it's convenient for their favorites.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...financial-issues-profiled-in-mainstream-story

    http://grantland.com/features/the-wrestler-real-life/
     
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  11. Loki882

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    I'm sorry, but as vile as some of Warrior's comments were (and boy were they, and I despise that they lionize him these days with an award named after him, what a joke), or some of those other incidents. Being a pimp who prostitutes underage girls out, screws them out of money, ruins they careers if they complain, and drugging them to make the more compliant, is on a whole different level.

    Also many people in the now would tell you that Moolah did more to HURT the state of Women's Wrestling in the US than she did to help it.

    And you know what, I might have something to say if WWE ever tried to make a "Ric Flair memorial tournament" or something, but they haven't. What's next the "Chris Benoit memorial family grappling contest," or the "Jimmy Snuka memorial hotel brawl."

    It's also incredibly tone deaf given that they want to brag about how they take the women more seriously these days.
     
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  12. chamber-music

    chamber-music Infinity Ammo

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    Darren Young said CM Punk and Randy Orton were super supportive of him when he came out.
     
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  13. Broseph44

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    Asuka’s promos are just cringe to me and they are weird. Her English is eh and like last night’s promo I’m just like what is she doing? These weird gyrations and dancing etc I dunno and the nobody is ready for Asuka stuff. I dunno tough for me to watch sometimes. I don’t enjoy her promos at all. Hurts my ears.
     
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  14. Doug_Moore

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    If life was fair, Moolah would be getting the Chris Benoit treatment from WWE. What a vile POS human being she was. I'm glad she's dead and that word is getting around about the evil things she did.

    Its absurd that Hogan gets blacklisted for using a racial slur in a private conversation from like a decade ago, but WWE continues to treat Warrior like a saint.

    I think him and Saliva have the record for most songs used for WWE PPVs.
     
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  15. Pink Ranger

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    I'll chip in my two cents: in my heart, I've forgiven Warrior, and when I think of him, I think of the way he made me feel as a 10-year-old kid watching wrestling.

    He said some bad things, and yes, words like that can hurt a lot of people, especially fellow members of the LGBT community. Words like that incite people to commit violence against the gay community, and can contribute to young gay people's despair and suicidal thoughts.

    But around the time of his death, it was clear to me that he was really trying to atone for some of his past actions. Maybe he would have apologized for his homophobic remarks, maybe he would never have. Never really got the chance to prove it either way. But there's something very sudden yet poetic about the way he died, makes me want to give him the benefit of the doubt.
     
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  16. Flash525

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    An affair is slightly different to being a bigot, sexist, or racist though. As for the Rock (as a teenager); I'm sure a lot of people do stupid things when growing up and finding themselves, but as a person, I don't think Dwayne is a bad guy - neither do I think Cena is.

    Moolah was before my time, but I am curious what she did and why she was hated?
     
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    Moolah was accused of being a sex trafficker.

    Dwayne is far from being a bad guy. He has admitted that the stuff he did as a teen was immaturity more than anything. He loves his parents and his two daughters. The one blemish he has had as an adult is that he's divorced, but even that he makes it work since his ex-wife is his business partner and I believe her current husband gets along great with Dwayne and I think works with him in his Seven Bucks Production Company.
     
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    Why are any of you surprised with any of this?

    The WWE only cares about something if the mainstream media cares about it.

    If the general public knew about Moolah's past, she'd be buried so far we'd never knew she was a wrestler. They don't, so WWE can keep on doing whatever they want to do.

    It's not right, but it's par for course for them.
     
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  19. Doug_Moore

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    Her story about Moolah is just one of many (Sweet Georgia Brown, Wendi Richter, Leilani Kai, etc.)
     
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  20. Dr. Evil

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    Just name everything after Mae Young....problem solved.
     
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  21. Lantern Venom

    Lantern Venom Lego SUCKS

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    That's unfortunately true. I don't know how much of his old blog entries are still online, but I remember reading a sizeable portion of Warrior's Machete around 10 years ago. It went far beyond the usual personality/professional conflicts of the pro wrestling business. Warrior seemed to have an ax to grind with a new group of people almost every week, and to say that his attacks lacked diplomacy would be an understatement.
     
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    People always draw the line under their favourites when it comes to there transgressions, the problem with the Warrior and Moolah situations is that WWE are putting them on pedestals with awards and battle royale's named after them.
     
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  24. chamber-music

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    Bobby Fish injury has rumored to put him out for four months. They should have Strong turn heel and take his spot in Undisputed Era until Fish returns.

    Aleister Black quipping short jokes at Zelina was unexpected.
     
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  25. Doug_Moore

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    [YT]3Pf5x15SQHE[/YT]

    Rusev blocks Ryback on Instagram Live! We're going to find out tomorrow if this steroid story is hogwash or people are getting suspended.
     
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