Theories on why Wolverine was called LOGAN in the film.

[Episode29]

i really hate plot holes how can a serious writer producer and director look at there finished product and not see the plot holes that is just unprofessional and just bad imo

I suspect that the film's biggest problem was writer's strike. As the studio had a deadline and cast in place, they just shot right on through with a story based on the scribblings from the back of an Arby's napkin.

 

[Infinity9999x]

That part really threw me. It was like "did I miss something???".

I mean, they went out of their way to explain his damn jacket! Would it have killed them to throw a hint as to why he's called Logan?

Yeah, it was just weird. Especially since two simple lines would have been easy to add.

 

[Matt.S99]

I think it was his father's name...not Creed's father like in the comics.

In the Origins comic, I think his birth father (Dog's father, the groundskeeper) is named Logan Creed.

I think that in this film, the man who died, the man that James Howelett believed to be his father was named Logan Howelett.

Only thing I can think of.

-R

His name is Thomas Logan if I remember correctly.

 

[Golgo-13]

What is the man who Wolverine believed to be his real father's name credited as being in the credits..?

And like others have said, one line from Stryker could have easily fixed this. It should have dawned on Wolverine, that something was up, seeing as how Stryker called him Logan at the saw mill. If he had indeed changed his name after he left the team, it should have rang a bell as to how Stryker would know that...ala Kayla works for Stryker.

I always assumed he just named himself Logan after he lost his memory.

 

[bweurk]

i saw the movie yesterday and that bothered me too
the only logical explaination i could come up with is that in the movie, there is no James Howlett, there is no John Howlett, no Elizabeth Howlett, no Thomas Logan, and no Dog Logan, il the movie, there is James Logan, John Logan, Elizabeth Logan, Thomas Creed and his son Victor Creed... except in the end credits, where my theory is refuted, it works great!

 

[raynorWilm]

Yea this is a pretty simple aspect of the film, and the fact that this thread exists implicates that the writing should have been better...

 

[The Showstopper]

In the comics he was born James Howlett. Son of John Howlett. The groundskeeper, who was his biological father, was named Thomas Logan, and he had a son named Dog. As stated earlier, when Rose and James go on the run, she gives him the name Logan becauseits the first one she thinks of.

In the movie this all stays the same except Dog is renamed Viktor and becomes Sabertooth. So when Viktor and James go on the run, obviusly they need a new name for James, who becomes Logan. It could be that that is his new first name or possibly he goes by James Logan. Either way thats his new name.

 

[Infinity9999x]

In the comics he was born James Howlett. Son of John Howlett. The groundskeeper, who was his biological father, was named Thomas Logan, and he had a son named Dog. As stated earlier, when Rose and James go on the run, she gives him the name Logan becauseits the first one she thinks of.

In the movie this all stays the same except Dog is renamed Viktor and becomes Sabertooth. So when Viktor and James go on the run, obviusly they need a new name for James, who becomes Logan. It could be that that is his new first name or possibly he goes by James Logan. Either way thats his new name.

That would make sense, if Sabes didn't keep calling him "jimmy." And it wouldn't make sense if his last name was Logan, because then why would he have Kayla call him by his last name all the time?

Unless of course he told her his first name was Logan. Which he obviously did, but the problem is that they didn't address it, and that's just bad storytelling.

 

[Golgo-13]

I saw the movie again, and he has his name imprinted on the other side of his dog tags. In the other movies,i don't remember them having his name on the reverse... and when he wakes up after being shot he looks at his dog tags, see the name 'Logan' on it. Why then does he ask Gambit what his name is? Maybe he was asking for verification.....

 

[Deaths Head II]

I saw the movie again, and he has his name imprinted on the other side of his dog tags. In the other movies,i don't remember them having his name on the reverse... and when he wakes up after being shot he looks at his dog tags, see the name 'Logan' on it. Why then does he ask Gambit what his name is? Maybe he was asking for verification.....

I think he was asking Gambit to make sure Gambit really knew him and wasn't trying to trick him.

The fact that "Logan" was on his dog tags makes Gambit's appearance at the end completely pointless too.

 

[the a1ant]

That's one problem I had with the film. His name change is never addressed. They took effort in showing the creation of his dog tags, his love for motorcycles, his jacket, and they even had Stryker going into detail about Emma and having Kayla say "they have my sister...my sister, my sister" a zillion times. I noticed good detail in this film, but the explanation of his "Logan" name would've been nice to have. Maybe a deleted scene?

 

[tekken]

i'm pretty sure he just changed his name after quiting team x.

 

[TheVelvetOnion]

The truth is that John howlett isnt Wolverines real dad, Thomas Logen was, in the origin story, He took the name of Logan so that he would constalty be reminded of what happend, Ironic really since he lost his memory. LOL...

 

[Infinity9999x]

The truth is that John howlett isnt Wolverines real dad, Thomas Logen was, in the origin story, He took the name of Logan so that he would constalty be reminded of what happend, Ironic really since he lost his memory. LOL...

No he didn't Rose gave him the name. James didn't take it for himself. And it's never been revealed if John or Thomas was Wolverine's biological father, though it's strongly hinted that Thomas was.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I think he was asking Gambit to make sure Gambit really knew him and wasn't trying to trick him.

The fact that "Logan" was on his dog tags makes Gambit's appearance at the end completely pointless too.

Except to establish that he lost his memory.

Oh wait, Stryker magically knew that a bullet would erase his memory...

 

[C. Lee]

Except to establish that he lost his memory.

Oh wait, Stryker magically knew that a bullet would erase his memory...

Maybe he suspected that a bullet constantly rolling around in his brain would cause some side effects....

 

[Doc Holliday]

Maybe he suspected that a bullet constantly rolling around in his brain would cause some side effects....

Possibly. I just remember him saying something corny like "his brain will survive, but his memories won't."

 

[C. Lee]

Possibly. I just remember him saying something corny like "his brain will survive, but his memories won't."

His brain will survive...it regenerates....but memories could be something else....I'm not a brain expert.

 

[Deaths Head II]

Except to establish that he lost his memory.

They could have done it way with way more subtlety. Of course, subtlety isn't this film's strong suit but when they have to have Gambit around to say "WOLVERINE HAS NO MEMORY NOW" and "WOLVERINE IS GOING OFF TO BE A LONER", it's kind of lame.

I prefer the original ending of Wolverine waking up alone and confused at the end.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

It's really easy to figure out what happened, and it will end this debate.

In the comics, Wolverine is originally James Howlett, raised by John Howlett. However, James' biological father is Thomas Logan.

As how grows older, he adopts the name Logan. That is then the name he goes by.

That's obviously what they were attempting to do. What the writers did (and yes, it's a moment of bad writing) was -assume- that the audience knew all of this. Therefore, they didn't address the names of the Howletts or Thomas Logan. It was all assumed by the writers and director that this would all be known, that the audience would know who John Howlett, and Thomas Logan were, and why Jimmy started to be called Logan.

I let it slide, because of my comic book knowledge I know what's going on.

If I were a general audience member who didn't know any better, I would be kinda like "WTF"

"He's been called 'Logan' for 3 films now, and all of a sudden he's being called 'Jimmy'? WTF?"

 

[Hugh'sMrs]

Even if you go by the credits (at the end of the film or on IMDB) for an explanation of Logan's name that still won't explain why Victor CREED is Jimmy's half brother.

Let's play The Family Tree Game.

John Howlett is the man James thinks is his father but Thomas Logan apparently is the bio daddy. Victor Creed tells Jimmy that they're half brothers but inexplicably he has a different last name from Thomas. Let's say that Thomas is Victor's stepfather then Vic can't be blood related to Jimmy.



I need an Advil Migraine tablet.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

It was a bit crazy how they never explained it, it just come out of no were people calling him Logan. And Stryker had his new dog tags imprinted with Logan, so it was crazy.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

Even if you go by the credits (at the end of the film or on IMDB) for an explanation of Logan's name that still won't explain why Victor CREED is Jimmy's half brother.

Let's play The Family Tree Game.

John Howlett is the man James thinks is his father but Thomas Logan apparently is the bio daddy. Victor Creed tells Jimmy that they're half brothers but inexplicably he has a different last name from Thomas. Let's say that Thomas is Victor's stepfather then Vic can't be blood related to Jimmy.



I need an Advil Migraine tablet.

Victor could of changed his name to Creed, were James changed his to Logan after his real father (which would still of been a fake name for him, cuase, his birth name was Howlett)
maybe, Creed was his mother's maiden name

Edit: though being around for 100 + years they probably would of had to change there names quite a few times...

 

[Venomfan]

the end credits say John Howlett and Thomas Logan

 

[Hugh'sMrs]

Victor could of changed his name to Creed, were James changed his to Logan after his real father (which would still of been a fake name for him, cuase, his birth name was Howlett)
maybe, Creed was his mother's maiden name

Edit: though being around for 100 + years they probably would of had to change there names quite a few times...

Storytelling-wise it doesn't make sense for James to adopt the name of the man who killed the man he considered his father. Victor changing his name to his mother's maiden name doesn't make sense either.

They may have changed their last names several times over the years, but why wouldn't they have the same one seeing as how being brothers was so important to them.

I realize a lot of these issues are really nitpicky but a lot of people don't want to watch a movie and have to fill in the gaps themselves.

I saw Star Trek on Thursday night and I didn't walk out of the theater asking myself a bunch of questions. Therein lies the difference between decent and lazy storytelling.