Thor: Ragnarok The Official News and Speculation Thread - Part 10

[BigThor]

Hopefully it works better in the context of the film. Lines like that always seem way cheesier in the promos. Or maybe it's not even in the film at all, which would be a pleasant surprise.

That would be best, in this case showing would be better than telling.

 

[HammerDown]

Steven Weintraub @colliderfrosty

if you're looking forward to @TaikaWaititi's 'Thor: Ragorak' you probably want to hit @collider tomorrow morning...

I wonder what could it be. Tickets? Set Visit?...

 

[Mjölnir]

Sounds interesting.

His tweet just reminded me of how many people seem to spell it "Ragnorak" for some reason, although he misspelled the misspelling as well. I've even seen articles on websites make that mistake.

 

[HammerDown]

I've seen some people misspelling "Ragnarok" but I gotta say it has improved a lot over the run of the marketing campaign for this movie. The posters, trailers, tv spot's, media articles... have really helped with people's knowledge of the right title.

The collider guy actually wrote after that tweet that he misspelled the title. It can happen even Ruffalo did the same mistake yesterday. It's not the most common name at all but it also helps to give it something special, something singular in terms of movie titles.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Steven Weintraub @colliderfrosty


I wonder what could it be. Tickets? Set Visit?...

Set visits.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Sounds interesting.

His tweet just reminded me of how many people seem to spell it "Ragnorak" for some reason, although he misspelled the misspelling as well. I've even seen articles on websites make that mistake.

Thor 4 - Thor gets a new waterproof coat in 'Thor: Anorak'
Thor 5 - Thor gets his own small, narrow watercraft which is propelled by means of a double-bladed paddle in 'Thor: Kayak'

 

[HunBoy]

 

[MbJ]

Motion poster.
https://***********/Marvel/status/905781308089131008

 

[MbJ]

 

[MbJ]

Everything You Need To Know About Thor Ragnarok:
http://collider.com/thor-ragnarok-spoilers-trivia/

SPOILERS:

Spoiler

Thor: Ragnarok is set about two years after the events of Avengers: Age of Ultron. The film ‘cold opens’ with Thor held captive at Muspelheim by their ruler Surtur. After Thor defeats the Fire Demon, Thor travels back to Asgard – where Loki (now ruling under the guise of Odin) has brought the realm to the brink of ruin. In this disarray, Asgard becomes vulnerable to Hela, the Goddess of Death, who has been waiting patiently for the opportunity to destroy the realm once and for all. From there, Thor: Ragnarok skips around from planet-to-planet. Thor and Loki travel to Earth to meet Doctor Strange, and later Thor’s taken prisoner on the planet Sakaar, where he’s forced to battle in a gladiatorial ring against his former ally The Hulk.

Previously Asgard has been depicted as a picturesque, beautiful refuge – shiny, glimmering, spotless… Thor: Ragnarok, however, will show what the ‘slums’ of Asgard look like – which, if I’m being honest, still looks pretty nice. The houses are slightly worn, paint fading with mismatched stones; the benches are rusted; a couple burn marks are on the ground beneath faded candles… But, overall, I’d still live there. Regardless – Hela travels to the ‘poor’ areas of Asgard to corrupt and weaken the realm from the inside out.
Per producer Brad Winderbaum – “[The planet] Sakaar is like the island of lost souls. We think about a planet as orbiting a star and having day and night. This is a planet that’s frozen in space between an incredible quantity of wormholes that have been spitting things out into this place for eons and eons. Essentially if anything goes wrong in your intergalactic travels in the MCU, you’re going to get spat out into the toilet of the universe… which is this planet.
thor-ragnarok-jeff-goldblum
Image via Marvel Studios
Sakaar is ruled by The Grandmaster (Jeff Goldblum), who has built a society based off giant gladiatorial battles. “It’s a very violent, hedonistic culture,” Winderbaum stated “You’re living in a place where anything can fall out of the sky at any moment and crush you, so there’s a very ‘seize the day’ aspect to the world there, which is a great contrast to Asgard.”

At the time of the set-visit, Jeff Goldblum hadn’t shot a scene yet, but was slated to film for eight days later in the month.
The Grandmaster is an “elusive yet fun character… He’s like the ringleader of the circus on Sakaar, but he’s also a little bit of a brutal dictator – although he’s completely unaware. To him: it’s all-good all the time. “
In Sakaar, Hulk has been in ‘Hulk-form’ for two years straight, having given up on that puny Bruce Banner; yet still, The Hulk feels miserable. To cheer the big green fella up and keep him as the star attraction in his gladiatorial battles, The Grand Master decorates Sakaar with ‘Hulk piñatas’, posters and memorabilia – all to show how much The Hulk is loved/appreciated there.

Brad Winderbaum revealed that they had the idea of integrating Hulk into a Thor film fairly early on. “In the earliest development of Thor, we were looking at Planet Hulk as an inspiration maybe not even to integrate the Hulk into the franchise, but the idea of a planet where there’s gladiatorial games as a Thor predicament. It was a really cool idea to us. Somewhere in the early conversations, when it looked like it was going that way, it was a no brainer. It started off as like, ‘Could we put Hulk in there too?’ Then as soon as that sparked ignited, [Hulk] was married to the plot.”

It takes three people to bring The Hulk to life on set. Person One has a backpack connected to a ball above his head. This is done to give the other actors a reference point to where The Hulk’s head is in the shot/scene; Person Two has a Detailed Hulk Bust that approximates the look of The Hulk; and Person Three, known as ‘Green Steve’, is just decked out in green body paint from head to toe.
The true story behind ‘Green Steve’: “There’s no substitution for human flesh so you like take a guy in really good shape and you put on some good green make-up and you have them walk through the same space that The Hulk could.” VFX Supervisor Jake Morrison revealed, “You collect up all of these bits and pieces. It seems ludicrous when you’re here and you see this stuff. But the crazy thing is by the end of this picture, 1500 Visual Effects Artists will have worked on the show and none of them have been on set. None of them would have seen what it looked like on the day and each one of them generally will see a given shot as a series of flat images. So anything that you can give them that describes the light and the room and how things move and all the rest of it is invaluable later. So ‘Green Steve’ is called Green Steve ‘cause the original guy was called Green Steve. This is actually Green Jordan, but he’s kind of Green Steve Mark 3.”

Cate Blanchett’s stunt double for Thor Ragnarok: none other than Quentin Tarantino go-to star Zoe Bell

Blanchett, on set, has mo-cap dots all over her forehead to mark where a digital headwear will be placed in post. Per Jake Morrison, the decision to digitally create the helmet instead of practically having one on Blanchett was done to help the actress. “All we’re doing is adding the sprinkles on top. [The actors] are delivering the performances. You’re already working with the best ingredients. So for us we take an actor like Cate Blanchett and then bringing her into Hela, what we wanted to do is not tie her down with a physical costume that was over complicated or weighty.”
Morrison continued, “Whatever the costume ends up being or whatever approach we end up taking and whatever flourishes we add on later, it’s something that we want to be able to react to whatever Cate does. So if we say the character has a cape for example – the cape could be heavy, it could split into many different pieces. It could behave like it’s underwater. All these things we could experiment with, but the key is we can base it upon Cate’s physical performance. The reason we got the motion capture stuff on her is we’re now recording literally 120 samples per second of where her body is – exactly how her wrist moves or elbow moves… That’s all captured in the system. If she does a pirouette or a turn or anything, we then have the option to make her costume behave in symphony with her action. We don’t have the actors feel in any way like their motion is restricted by the costume. We’re trying to let the performance drive the picture and then we add the fun stuff on afterwards.”

The Warriors Three will appear in Thor: Ragnarok

Unfortunately it doesn’t appear things have worked out between Thor and Jane Foster (Natalie Portman). According to Chris Hemsworth: Thor Ragnarok has “some very respectable fun with how that relationship may have come to a mutual end.”

What’s Thor’s arc in Thor: Ragnarok? Per Winderbaum “The idea of worthiness, what makes somebody worthy, what helps someone find self worth is at the core of Thor as a character. That theme remains central in this film; however in the first film where he was a petulant prince who had to learn humility, in this one he wants to become a better man and learn to accept himself as a leader, as a king, as someone who can lead Asgard.”

 

[MbJ]

Waititi promises big changes from the ending:
http://screenrant.com/thor-4-ragnarok-sequel-ending/

Well, he’s a lot grubbier. That’s been one of my main things… I think everyone’s a bit too shiny and clean in the other films. So we’re just trying to… I love heroes that really go through ordeals, and they come out the other end completely changed, not just ‘Oh I’ve got a girlfriend now.’ They come out the other side, they’ve been through the ringer.

We do a lot to this character in this film. And you know, a lot of people have been wanting to see this idea of Ragnarok. A lot of people are excited by the idea of what Ragnarok means. But to me, it means stripping down the establishment of what’s already there, and then building it up in a new way. Which is almost like this cyclic idea of Ragnarok.

So there’s my own personal idea of Ragnarok: what we’re doing to the character and to the franchise, and to the story. But in a way where what comes out the other end is way more exciting and interesting. And in a way, you can never go back from that.

The Valkyries are described as Odin's SEAL Team 6.
http://screenrant.com/how-hulk-thor-3-gladiator-planet-explained-2/

 

[MbJ]

Ragnarok topped Fandango's poll for the most anticipated movie of the Fall.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...as-falls-most-anticipated-movie/#3264276c2114

 

[MbJ]

And some stuff about the inspiration they're drawing from:

It’s not just Jack Kirby that Thor: Ragnarok pulls from though. “I’ll tell you the three things we looked at the most,” producer Brad Winderbaum revealed in between takes, “We’re pulling a lot stylistically from Kirby [but] we’re also looking at the Walt Simonson Ragnarok arc [and]… God of Thunder, the Jason Aaron book.” From Simonson’s Ragnarok, Winderbaum noted that while it’s impossible to tell the comic’s full story within the confines of a ninety-something minute film, “we cherry pick[ed] really fun elements out of it both stylistically and narratively.”

http://collider.com/thor-ragnarok-comics-differences-explained/#valkyrie

 

[HammerDown]

Mbj!

Those character poster looks so damn awesome!
I love the colors and the almost powder effect to the posters makes me remember some indian holiday or some like that where they throw color powder at each other.

Thor looks badass. Loki looks like he's gonna show some serious moves with those daggers. Cate Blanchett as Hela is everything. The Hulk looks as much as Ruffalo as we have seen ever his face is there big time... the eyes are so real. Idris Elba is just chilling not much is happening but that massive sword is so awesome. Valkyrie looks good. 10 out of 10 Goldblums. Odin is also chilling with thoe robes.

 

[Krystal]

Uh, that guy just said "ninety minute film" -- I guess he's in on the joke too.

 

[HammerDown]

Ragnarok topped Fandango's poll for the most anticipated movie of the Fall.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...as-falls-most-anticipated-movie/#3264276c2114

Well deserved. The hype is real.
Mos antecipated movie and actor (Chris Hemsworth). Second most anticipated actress is Cate Blanchett after Gadot.

It’s a big day for Thor: Ragnarok. The tickets for Walt Disney’s action fantasy sequel went on sale this morning at 6:00 am.

 

[HammerDown]

Marvel Studios on Twitter posted some interesting captions for each poster and they have animated ones too. I laughed with the one for Thor.t:

Thor - No Hammer. No Problem.
Hulk - The Gladiator.
Hela - The Goddess of Death.
Loki - Surprise. He's back.
Valkyrie - The Warrior.
Heimdall - The Protector.
Grandmaster - Let The Games Begin.
Odin - ???

 

[Darepool]

Hopefully it works better in the context of the film. Lines like that always seem way cheesier in the promos. Or maybe it's not even in the film at all, which would be a pleasant surprise.

Works better in the context of the film? It's a straightforward line, is it really that big a deal? You either like it or not. They use it or they don't, etc, etc. Kinda reflects the spirit of the trailer, no?

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Korg's character poster looks great, oh wait...

 

[Flint Marko]

Bought my tickets today and reserved the perfect seat. So excited!

Btw maybe it's just me but.... I'm not feeling most of those character posters.

 

[HammerDown]

I'm buying my tickets too. At least 3 to 5 tickets. IMAX ftw as my first time seeing it.
I personally am gonna watch this movie several times and i also want to share the love and have some people come with me to check it out too. It's gonna be an awesome fun time at the theaters.

 

[CoherentChaos]

So we finally have some confirmed chronology? Spoiler tagging cause I'm discussing info from the Collider article and if I actually turn out to be accurate about anything I don't want to spoil it.

Spoiler

Thor first encounters Surtur in a way unrelated to Hela and Ragnarok it seems. I'm guessing he gets trapped as part of his investigation of the Infinity Stones and Surtur doesn't like him snooping around in Muspelheim. Thor manages to beat him solo (however based on the horns prop and the size reference for Hemsworth on set in the Dr. Strange DVD sneak peek, Surtur might be smaller and weaker in this instance?) as one last hoorah for Mjolnir probably, and Thor escapes with Surtur 's horns?

 

[Filmfan93]

Patiently waiting for tickets to go on sale in the UK!

Also, love the colour on those posters.

 

[HammerDown]

So we finally have some confirmed chronology? Spoiler tagging cause I'm discussing info from the Collider article and if I actually turn out to be accurate about anything I don't want to spoil it.

Spoiler

Thor first encounters Surtur in a way unrelated to Hela and Ragnarok it seems. I'm guessing he gets trapped as part of his investigation of the Infinity Stones and Surtur doesn't like him snooping around in Muspelheim. Thor manages to beat him solo (however based on the horns prop and the size reference for Hemsworth on set in the Dr. Strange DVD sneak peek, Surtur might be smaller and weaker in this instance?) as one last hoorah for Mjolnir probably, and Thor escapes with Surtur 's horns?

That sounds about right.

Spoiler

After all of that my suspicion is that Surtur is somehow brought back through the faceplate which will be in Asgard and this time with the Eternal Flame which is in Odin's vault and belongs to Surtur... this will greatly increase his size and make him way more powerful and dangerous.

 

[HammerDown]

From the set visit in what looks like the Sakaar set, the big Asgard set... Very Kirby.