Tim Story MySpace Blog updated

[Advanced Dark]

^ Oh God dont' turn this into an AICN bashing/haters thread. LMFAO Don't drag me back there! Noooooooooo!

 

[Fantastic-Boy]

Ok!

 

[highguard]

It bothers me everytime you don't agree with something or question something someone has done, you're labled a Hater. I take offense to Story's comment referring to some as haters. How are you hating if you want a faithful afdaption? How are you hating if you disagree with the route these movie studios are going with classic characters that has been around for years. Galactus was around before Tim Story even existed, so it's not so much to ask as loyal fans to want to see a faithful adaption. kirby's Galactus is not a silly concept and wouldn't be ant less believable then a guy that's silver on a flying surfboard. A bunch of hive mechanical ships from that Ultimate Garbage is not Galactus, they may be easier to do, but it's not the character.

That is the difference between SONY and FOX Mr Story and FOX Execs as to why Spiderman grosses over 300 million domestically and none of your current Marvel films has made you a ton of money. Always a rushed production or seemingly rushed to meet a release date. Sony takes their time and puts out a fatithful adaption. The F4 could done as well as Spiderman or pretty close, but them FOX clowns dropped tha ball and choose to gut d@mn near everything from the comic to make their vision. Same was done with the Xmen. FOX will never learn how to make a proper comic film if they insist on changing major characters to something different and gutting out the fantasy and scifi element think no one is going to believe or accept it. I think people have already suspended their disbelief when they go in and see any fantasy and sci fi film as majority of that element doesn't exist in our real world any way.

When Story talks about haters I think he means people criticizing things that are just speculation or condemning a film over miniscule almost irrelevant stuf, like the surfer is taking up too much of the promotion, or the thing is standing around or any one of the numerous things people can find to nitpick about.

Let me give you an example. Over in the Ghost Rider movie review thread, some people were getting negative so as these things go when it rains it pours. So a guy jumped in and said one of the things that annoyed him in the film was that Mephistoles did not have a very varied wardrobe. Apparently that affected his enjoyment of the film.

Now what would you say to such a guy, this is what happens when you lose the kid in you. You can complain about anything. That is a hater.

 

[highguard]

Also on the matter of Galactus, I think that clearly this film has been open ended from the start.

That is the only conclusion that you can gather from Loan not knowing that Galactus would appear.

So this is what I think has happened. In the beginning before all of this Galactus stuff came up Story talked about budget cuts. Its obvious that Galactus is the one character CGI that was up in the air.

I think after those talks Tim and Ralph must have sat down and said that the only way they can introduce Galactus is if they don't go way over budget.

They must have hatched a plan to go back after principal photography wrapped with the rough cut and after the teasers and stuff and the buzz to see if they could get Fox to give them back something.

This something must be Galacatus.

I think Tim Story is really fighting for us guys, really fighting.

I like this guy, really, I think that he is learning quickly and wants to do his best, but yeah he must be feeling a littel defensive cause people are trying to tear him to pieces even when it's obvious that he has put a lot of work into this second film.

He said they are working long hours to get this thing right and I believe him. I even think that Fox is loosening up the ropes a little.

I am going to support these guys.

I want them to succeed.

I want Full Doom.
I want UA Galactus
I want FF the family

I love movies and I think and I hope that I am really going to love this one.

 

[Advanced Dark]

When Story talks about haters I think he means people criticizing things that are just speculation or condemning a film over miniscule almost irrelevant stuf, like the surfer is taking up too much of the promotion, or the thing is standing around or any one of the numerous things people can find to nitpick about.

Let me give you an example. Over in the Ghost Rider movie review thread, some people were getting negative so as these things go when it rains it pours. So a guy jumped in and said one of the things that annoyed him in the film was that Mephistoles did not have a very varied wardrobe. Apparently that affected his enjoyment of the film.

Now what would you say to such a guy, this is what happens when you lose the kid in you. You can complain about anything. That is a hater.

Exactly. Another example were those saying they hoped the film failed so they could reboot it in 5 years...before seeing it. The same people voted in the polls saying the movie was poor or awful well before they even had a chance to see it. LOL Those...are haters. Everytime you show them something great...they still find something negative. Yet they get orgasmic over a one sheet of War of the Worlds or a Kevin Smith cameo.

 

[Nokio]

Nokio,

What would you say if I told you I believe you took Mr. Story's comments completely out of context? Translation: I think you missed his point buddy.

Out of context? Come on Lightning man you know me(formally MJB, for the life of me I don't know why SHH won't send me my forgotten password)), I don't go overboard. It just pisses me off when people lable you a hater, especailly those rappers who are garbage and people question their asinine actions or lyrics and you're labled a hater, it has nothing to do with the F4, but hearing Story mention haters, it just set me off.

I'm all for coming down on people who launch personel attacks, and I've defended Story from the start. I know the first f4 turned out the way it did do to Fox execs, and I'm still not sold on the 2nd, despite the fact that I've been pleased with what I've seen so far.

For the love of GOD i see no reason at all to change Galactus much. I mean why even use him if it's not going to be him on screen? of course Story can say all he want that we've come up with a design that most fans will be pleased with, but it doesn't mean shyt to me, cause it's nothing but pr clean up. I don't buy shyt coming from Story or Rothman. Rothman is the same man who sung praises to X3 and how it's the best, and Phoenix will be awesome, and that turned out to be the biggest let down of the movie. That wasn't phoenix at all. The script review over at AICN hit everything on nail, and FOX tried to clean it up with a pack of lies, saying that the script has been changed, and nothing was changed. everything happend as was reviewd in that script. I believe those rumors more about how Galctus won't show up or he'll be those pack of bee hive ships more so then we'll get the 616 version, cause i've seen Fox's track record.

The worst part is that them d@mn boneheads can say, well how can the fans be mad, it can from the comics. D@mn that Miller or Bendis for gutting Galactus and reducing him to some Alien invasion plot.

 

[MarvelXI]

Tim Story said in his blog that Galactus will be there:

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?f...yToken=a1c1046d-5913-491f-9a86-cc049ecba3fcML

 

[Kelly]

Out of context? Come on Lightning man you know me(formally MJB, for the life of me I don't know why SHH won't send me my forgotten password)), I don't go overboard. It just pisses me off when people lable you a hater, especailly those rappers who are garbage and people question their asinine actions or lyrics and you're labled a hater, it has nothing to do with the F4, but hearing Story mention haters, it just set me off.

I'm all for coming down on people who launch personel attacks, and I've defended Story from the start. I know the first f4 turned out the way it did do to Fox execs, and I'm still not sold on the 2nd, despite the fact that I've been pleased with what I've seen so far.

For the love of GOD i see no reason at all to change Galactus much. I mean why even use him if it's not going to be him on screen? of course Story can say all he want that we've come up with a design that most fans will be pleased with, but it doesn't mean shyt to me, cause it's nothing but pr clean up. I don't buy shyt coming from Story or Rothman. Rothman is the same man who sung praises to X3 and how it's the best, and Phoenix will be awesome, and that turned out to be the biggest let down of the movie. That wasn't phoenix at all. The script review over at AICN hit everything on nail, and FOX tried to clean it up with a pack of lies, saying that the script has been changed, and nothing was changed. everything happend as was reviewd in that script. I believe those rumors more about how Galctus won't show up or he'll be those pack of bee hive ships more so then we'll get the 616 version, cause i've seen Fox's track record.

The worst part is that them d@mn boneheads can say, well how can the fans be mad, it can from the comics. D@mn that Miller or Bendis for gutting Galactus and reducing him to some Alien invasion plot.

No more explanation needed.....

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Lol

 

[Mercurius]

Well, now he says that there will be Galactus, and that it (or whatever) will please MOST of us.

(Yeah, MOST in capitals, whatever he means with such a thing).

That's a nice way to say it. I hope he is right. His enthusiasm with Doom in the first flick, nevertheless, didn't turn out to be exactly a good, healthy thing.

But they seem to have nailed SS. But they put our beloved Thing in the background, and that's bad. On the other hand, the trailer is quite good. But Alba's hair and lenses are dreadful, and the very good Zack Snyder is using Story's movie as a punchline.

But they're the Fantastic Four.

Don't know, too much variables.

 

[Kelly]

Well, now he says that there will be Galactus, and that it (or whatever) will please MOST of us.

(Yeah, MOST in capitals, whatever he means with such a thing).

That's a nice way to say it. I hope he is right. His enthusiasm with Doom in the first flick, nevertheless, didn't turn out to be exactly a good, healthy thing.

But they seem to have nailed SS. But they put our beloved Thing in the background, and that's bad. On the other hand, the trailer is quite good. But Alba's hair and lenses are dreadful, and the very good Zack Snyder is using Story's movie as a punchline.

But they're the Fantastic Four.

Don't know, too much variables.

For some reason....I picture you saying this post about 100 mph....even reading it.....I lost focus for a second......

 

[Advanced Dark]

Well, now he says that there will be Galactus, and that it (or whatever) will please MOST of us.

(Yeah, MOST in capitals, whatever he means with such a thing).

That's a nice way to say it. I hope he is right. His enthusiasm with Doom in the first flick, nevertheless, didn't turn out to be exactly a good, healthy thing.

But they seem to have nailed SS. But they put our beloved Thing in the background, and that's bad. On the other hand, the trailer is quite good. But Alba's hair and lenses are dreadful, and the very good Zack Snyder is using Story's movie as a punchline.

But they're the Fantastic Four.

Don't know, too much variables.

Most means what it says. There's no hidden meaning behind it. How do you know what's in the background? Have you seen the film??? Tim says most because nobody can please everyone especially not nitpicking purists who complain all day long based on 90 seconds of footage that to everyone else is awesome.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Well, now he says that there will be Galactus, and that it (or whatever) will please MOST of us.

(Yeah, MOST in capitals, whatever he means with such a thing).

That's a nice way to say it. I hope he is right. His enthusiasm with Doom in the first flick, nevertheless, didn't turn out to be exactly a good, healthy thing.

But they seem to have nailed SS. But they put our beloved Thing in the background, and that's bad. On the other hand, the trailer is quite good. But Alba's hair and lenses are dreadful, and the very good Zack Snyder is using Story's movie as a punchline.

But they're the Fantastic Four.

Don't know, too much variables.

 

[Kelly]

Most means what it says. There's no hidden meaning behind it. How do you know what's in the background? Have you seen the film??? Tim says most because nobody can please everyone especially not nitpicking purists who complain all day long based on 90 seconds of footage that to everyone else is awesome.

Quantify that?

 

[Kelly]

Talking about the actual vision of "Watchmen," Snyder hopes to make it as real as possible. "The idea with 'Watchmen' is not to do a CG movie, but to do it when it's necessary. When Dr. Manhattan goes to Mars, there's an issue there. We've got to figure that out. We can't go to Mars. I know there's a lot of people who are going to be disappointed by that but I just don't have the money. Antarctica, also, there's no Karnak. I know, again, we should probably build it and go film it there, but I don't think they're going to let us do that. So those two things right off the bat. Dr. Manhattan himself, what do you do? How do you make him, how do you render him? Rorschach's mask, there are things that have to be dealt with and figured out but I think the appetite for me is to make a movie that feels more like 'Taxi Driver' than 'Fantastic Four.' So it's a balance."

This is what he is talking about....

 

[Hunter Rider]

Talking about the actual vision of "Watchmen," Snyder hopes to make it as real as possible. "The idea with 'Watchmen' is not to do a CG movie, but to do it when it's necessary. When Dr. Manhattan goes to Mars, there's an issue there. We've got to figure that out. We can't go to Mars. I know there's a lot of people who are going to be disappointed by that but I just don't have the money. Antarctica, also, there's no Karnak. I know, again, we should probably build it and go film it there, but I don't think they're going to let us do that. So those two things right off the bat. Dr. Manhattan himself, what do you do? How do you make him, how do you render him? Rorschach's mask, there are things that have to be dealt with and figured out but I think the appetite for me is to make a movie that feels more like 'Taxi Driver' than 'Fantastic Four.' So it's a balance."

This is what he is talking about....

Ah i see,well i'd hardly call that using FF as a punchline,he is just pointing out the very different tone and style of the two books IMO

 

[Kelly]

Ah i see,well i'd hardly call that using FF as a punchline,he is just pointing out the very different tone and style of the two books IMO

Exactly......Mercurius and Nokio need to go and and have a beer together......they could become best of friends.....

 

[Hunter Rider]

Exactly......Mercurius and Nokio need to go and and have a beer together......they could become best of friends.....

Drinks on met:

 

[Kelly]

Drinks on met:

Hmmmmmmmmmm....



No Michelob Ultra??????????

 

[HoratioRome]

Sounds encouraging. I STILL dont get what the big deal is with Galactus though. Why all the mystery? I'd be ten times more dedicated and onboard with this film if i knew he was appearing.

If they keep feeding us more and more cryptic bull crap then im sitting opening weekend out until i know for sure this adaption is being done with respect.

agreed, and well said

 

[HoratioRome]

No.

I can totally understand his concerns--and everyone else's. The track record for "portraying things as they were originally concieved" has been poor lately--budget be damned; that has nothing to do with anything now. No offense, but that's become a cliched cop-out now AD...few are putting stock in such claims now until they see something substantial.

This whole Galactus thing has become like one of Marvel Comic's worst "What If" issues and after FF1 and X3 many fans are tired of being dinked around with "peek-a-boo" games. Concrete, straightforward news is the best news nowadays. Guessing games have overstayed their welcome.

well said lightning

 

[HoratioRome]

It bothers me everytime you don't agree with something or question something someone has done, you're labled a Hater. I take offense to Story's comment referring to some as haters. How are you hating if you want a faithful afdaption? How are you hating if you disagree with the route these movie studios are going with classic characters that has been around for years. Galactus was around before Tim Story even existed, so it's not so much to ask as loyal fans to want to see a faithful adaption. kirby's Galactus is not a silly concept and wouldn't be ant less believable then a guy that's silver on a flying surfboard. A bunch of hive mechanical ships from that Ultimate Garbage is not Galactus, they may be easier to do, but it's not the character.

That is the difference between SONY and FOX Mr Story and FOX Execs as to why Spiderman grosses over 300 million domestically and none of your current Marvel films has made you a ton of money. Always a rushed production or seemingly rushed to meet a release date. Sony takes their time and puts out a fatithful adaption. The F4 could done as well as Spiderman or pretty close, but them FOX clowns dropped tha ball and choose to gut d@mn near everything from the comic to make their vision. Same was done with the Xmen. FOX will never learn how to make a proper comic film if they insist on changing major characters to something different and gutting out the fantasy and scifi element think no one is going to believe or accept it. I think people have already suspended their disbelief when they go in and see any fantasy and sci fi film as majority of that element doesn't exist in our real world any way.

well said.

 

[HoratioRome]

Actually I'm not referring to those kinds of guessing games my dear. I'm talking about production staff and actors going on record telling fans misleading things, getting hopes up, filling them with doubt, confusing the hell out of them, stringing them along and then dashing their hopes after they've paid their $9.00 opening night. Stuff like:



See? I'm not saying keeping certain plot details saved and secret for the film. That's great. But can people get their stories for the media straight?



Sheesh. Filling your fanbase with doubt and worry is not the way to go. So when people like CaptainStacy and others say "I'm gonna wait for confirmation instead of supporting what could be an abomination of the storyline" I can TOTALLY respect that.

The problem is this: Many studios are not looking at these comic books as opportunities to create films of artistic merit. They look at them as opportunities to make a quick buck. Much of that seems to be generated from the way they view us--the fanboys and fangirls who have been purchasing these books. I get the sense that some of these executives think we're stupid or immature 40-year-olds living in our mother's basements...jobless.

And that's why they have no qualms changing pivotal aspects of these comic book sagas---they look at these things--and their fanbase--as juvenile; they lack respect for it. Hence they continue to make silly changes just for the hell of it. Why? Because they don't see a 616 Galactus or Ultimate Galactus as being an IMPORTANT factor to anything. After all, as some have stated here, we (the fans) don't count for much compared to the mainstream. The result? Wacky, nonsensical changes are made, and the fanbase that made the comics popular enough to warrant a cinematic treatment continue to get pissed and dissillusioned with it all. The studio makes their millions. And that's it.

I honestly believe Sony is the only studio that really seems to cherish its CBM franchise and treat it like the gold it is. Marvel seems to be following suit with their Iron Man franchise. But everything in between? Meh.

whoa there lightning, you are blowing me away with these comments, because I TOTALLY AGREE!
I always respected your POV but often think of you as an optimist, and Hollywood supporter.
I must say this comment shows courage, and brilliance on your part.
BTW, for those questioning and rejecting those who feel like Captain Stacy, let me say again. That is the point.
We are reserving judgement until we seee that they have gotten it right. So until then we will not be planning to go see anything. We've been burned too many times in the past.
ANd might I remind you that Story had also reassured us on Thing's brow, and THAT turned out to be exactly as it was before.
so the smart thing is to be sceptical IMO.

 

[highguard]

What is a hater?

Again I think Tim was referring to people not giving the second film a chance when he talks about haters.

I think you have to respect people who are wary of Fox, they are suits.

However I find it hard to think that Ralph Winter and Tim Story would lie about the appearance or non appearance of Galactus.

And Horatio Story did not lie about the brow,he said they would be slight changes and they have been, its not exactly as it was. You can clearly see that in the shots and in the teaser.

Now are you trying to be deceptive. Why, because you want us to be more negative than we should be. Why. Comics used to be fun man, that is what the movies were supposed to be. FF got knocked because it was not dark enough, did not take itself seriously enough, but if you went back and read the early issues the movie feels like a clone.

I understand you are wary of fox, so fine but when you make misleading statements it appears that you yourself are on an agenda or are biased and are ignoring facts.

There was a rumour going around that Julian would not be in the movie and that they were hiring a stand in. Tim came out and said that would not be the case and we would be seeing his face. He was telling the truth as Maury would say.

I can't find anywhere where Tim has lied.

He says no one knows how Galactus will look, clearly loan does not know and we know that Fox has been super secret with this production.

They know if the negativity starts rolling it may snowball.

So am I going to thrash the studio because they made some changes in the movie that I did not like, no they have shareholders to answer to and clearly they are not as forward thinking as Sony, but that is life you don't always get everything that you want.

That being said, you should not cut off your nose to spite your face.

That is just stupid. As AD said people wishing a movie fails so it can get a reboot in 5 years, man, who knows if they are going to wake up tomorrow.

I wish they would pull a matrix, shoot these things back to back and realease them every year. Who knows how long the world will be here, there are nuclear bombs everywhere and people are trying to build more.

 

[Carp Man]

You know I have to throw my 2 cents in here. I don't have a problem with them making changes, as long as they keep the spirit of what is is that makes a comic book hero endering to the fans. 1st film they changed the origin of the FF, and Doom, ( shrugs shoulders ) no biggie. Dr. Doom being all wroung ( big problem ). Crappy dialog ( Marco Polo ect. ), big problem. Dialiog being dumbed down, ( problem ). Keeping the spirit of what endered the FF to the fans ? ( DEAD ON ). Mark Frost should be hung, ( I got the rope, anyone got a tree ) ? Tim Story ? ( Thrown into a no win situition ). Bottom line is, 1st movie the script was 10 years in the making, and sooooooooooo many had a hand in it over those 10 years, no wounder it looked crappy. They had 2 or 3 different directors working on it, before they settled on Story. This movie, they have a new writer, Story has been in on it from the beginning. I think we will see his guiding hand in this one. They have WETA working on the special effects. I gave Story a pass on the 1st one, and was 100 % behind giving him a second chance, when the majority were calling for his head on a silver platter. I think we will be rewarded. And did anyone notice when in Tim's last blog entry, referring to Doom, he said they were going to touch on his origins ? t: Indeed a bonus. Sounds like they may start with Doom all over again, and hopefully get him right this time.