Tom Cruise tryin to Lean with it and Rock with it

Darthphere said:
Translation: Odd, I never found it possible for Mr. Cruise to be able to dance to the wonderful music of the hip hop artist known as Young Joc.
what the **** kind of name is lean with it and rock with it for a dance

whatever happened to simple names like the twist?
 
Man dat Tom Cruise is da crakk fo real my nikka...the hommie did dat lean wit sat shiet, no homo.
 
ShadowBoxing said:
Man dat Tom Cruise is da crakk fo real my nikka...the hommie did dat lean wit sat shiet, no homo.


I always liked the no homo part, totally unnecessary. LOL!:D
 
Darthphere said:
I always liked the no homo part, totally unnecessary. LOL!:D
I don't do dat homo shiet fo real son, don't catch feelings from them nikkas on the down low Darths-nikka phere.
 
ShadowBoxing said:
I don't do dat homo shiet fo real son, don't catch feelings from them nikkas on the down low Darths-nikka phere.


Fo real, dat be da word nikka.
 
blind_fury said:
when did this thread turn into a minstrel show?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minstrel_show


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"Lean wit it....rock wit it."
 
blind_fury said:
we've come a long way baby. lol!
A lot of scholars compare modern Rap and Hip Hop to a Mistrel Show, except with actually African Americans.
 
ShadowBoxing said:
A lot of scholars compare modern Rap and Hip Hop to a Mistrel Show, except with actually African Americans.
Well I'd take MC Hammer over a Birth of a Nation any day of the week.
 
blind_fury said:
Well I'd take MC Hammer over a Birth of a Nation any day of the week.
I would too. Its an improvement, but its a decent criticism to say hip hop culture is at times just as demoralizing.
 
ShadowBoxing said:
I would too. Its an improvement, but its a decent criticism to say hip hop culture is at times just as demoralizing.
Would it be better if blacks simply imitated white entertainment?

Assimilation is boring.
 
blind_fury said:
Would it be better if blacks simply imitated white entertainment?

Assimilation is boring.
No probably not, but then again they weren't immitating it with Jazz, Blues or Soul either which are not criticized for the same things rap and hip hop culture are.
 
No need...


Plenty of White people are imitating Black Entertainment.
 
oakzap425 said:
No need...


Plenty of White people are imitating Black Entertainment.
Exactly :D soon white people will ruin it for everyone and then something new will arise...such is the cycle of life.
 
ShadowBoxing said:
Exactly :D soon white people will ruin it for everyone and then something new will arise...such is the cycle of life.



No, what's really going to happen is that so many white people are gonna jump the wagon , that they're going to start claiming the hip hop movement as their own, just like everything else they stole, and then the black people are gonna have to take over rock and pop, just so that the white people will not only have something to steal, but ultimately start back at square one, and be back where they belong...


It's a vicious cycle, but black people have to keep white people on their toes, you know... :o
 
ShadowBoxing said:
No probably not, but then again they weren't immitating it with Jazz, Blues or Soul either which are not criticized for the same things rap and hip hop culture are.
Yeah but now we're getting into the "house negro" mentality. Will massa like dis o will massa like dat. WHO CARES WHAT WHITE PEOPLE THINK? Many whites hated Jazz back in 1940s and 50s. Now that music is revered. Perhaps once our cultural tastes have evolved more people will "lean wit it rock wit it". But to completely disregard music and dance is arrogant at best, ignorant at worst.
 
blind_fury said:
Yeah but now we're getting into the "house negro" mentality. Will massa like dis o will massa like dat. WHO CARES WHAT WHITE PEOPLE THINK? Many whites hated Jazz back in 1940s and 50s. Now that music is revered. Perhaps once our cultural tastes have evolved more people will "lean wit it rock wit it". But to completely disregard music and dance is arrogant at best, ignorant at worst.
Except "lean wit it rock wit it" is produced by white people who sit in an office and think about how to sell their new rap sensation. Jazz, Soul and Blues were not....rap and hip hop is largely pre packaged and usually the people pre-packaging it are white people. Tupac, Run DMC and others were exceptions

In fact here is the man behind "lean wit it"
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ShadowBoxing said:
Except "lean wit it rock wit it" is produced by white people who sit in an office and think about how to sell their new rap sensation.
So you really think some 60 year old white guy came up with the dance and the hook? lol! That's the smoking gun right there. People would be in the streets revolting.

But seriously, if whites did make that kind of music it wouldn't be long until it got out to the public. Give black artists some credit.
 
blind_fury said:
So you really think some 60 year old white guy came up with the dance and the hook? lol! That's the smoking gun right there. People would be in the streets revolting.

But seriously, if whites did make that kind of music it wouldn't be long until it got out to the public. Give black artists some credit.
He may not write it, but he directs it...and you can look it up. I all I had to do was search for his record label and see who his boss is. I mean this is the guy who previews Young Joc's music before it airs, he okays it. This is Hip Hop culture. A very white dominated industry found a type of music they could market, and before they did it was not so sexualized, it didn' talk about getting drunk and acting like a fool. Certainly Tupac and Biggie did some of this, but listen to the difference. You hardly ever hear songs like "Changes", "Dear Mamma", the album Raising Hell, Grandmaster Flash, Jam Master Jay, Afrika Bombaataa, I could go back even further. But it is most evident today that through white owned record labels rap and hip hop have changed. Even Ludacris is his film debut on "Crash" points out the change somewhat ironically, and I don't feel he would have said that if he didn't believe it. There is this celebration of ignorance in the music now that was not evident at all pre Tupac (who was in his own right incredibly well read). I am not saying rap music is bad, but as of today its a white controlled establishment...hopefully eventually like Jay-Z they will take over their own labels completely and we will see a new golden age like in the 80s, until then though I have a hard time listening to music I used to be able to see as an intellectual art form.
 

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