Tom Welling as Superman

[Docker2.0]

I've remember reading somewhere, him saying something about a Superman typecast or whatever.....but good luck with that becuase he's already branded as Superman. I honestly think if he wanted the role he couldve had it....and I'm one of the biggest Welling supporters there is!

 

[B]

George Reeves and Christopher Reeve are the GREATEST of ALL-Time PERIOD.
Dean Cain was Serviceable, Brandon Routh very forgettable and Tom Welling the next greatest of ALL-Time that never WAS.

DAMN JUST LOOK AT HIM!!! ARE YOU F'EN KIDDING ME???

WARNER BROTHERS WTF???



Just have Tom as Supes but just not discuss his past in Smallville.
Fans of the new film can go and purchase Smallville on DvD to discover his wacky past.

Superman No Doubt

Already Posted that picture about 10 times in different threads on the Planet

 

[Gmanofsteel]

http://blogs.usaweekend.com/whos_news/2008/08/tell-us-who-is.html

Welling 44.6%
Reeve 25.4%
Routh 20.9%
Reeves 4.6%
Cain 4.5%

 

[Zing79]

A nice quick note about the poll making the rounds. If you only take Welling and Routh in that poll and project it out, Welling would have ~74% of the vote to Rouths ~27%.

It's not a perfect science, but even with a lot of adjusting you could still easily say that Welling's *geek audience is twice as large as Routh's.

As loud as some people may be on Hype against Welling, (and despite the fact they may have found a nice niche home to hang out with each other and bash him), numbers don't lie. The anti-Welling group of people are outnumbered vastly in the geek realms and should learn to accept that fact.

It doesn't mean their opinion is wrong per say, just that it is not indicative of their own demographics opinions on Welling.

*geek audience is defined as people who frequent message boards or websites dedicated to each actor.

 

[KBX]

A nice quick note about the poll making the rounds. If you only take Welling and Routh in that poll and project it out, Welling would have ~74% of the vote to Rouths ~27%.

It's not a perfect science, but even with a lot of adjusting you could still easily say that Welling's *geek audience is twice as large as Routh's.

As loud as some people may be on Hype against Welling, (and despite the fact they may have found a nice niche home to hang out with each other and bash him), numbers don't lie. The anti-Welling group of people are outnumbered vastly in the geek realms and should learn to accept that fact.

It doesn't mean their opinion is wrong per say, just that it is not indicative of their own demographics opinions on Welling.

*geek audience is defined as people who frequent message boards or websites dedicated to each actor.

I like Routh, and I like Welling. I've never been one to choose sides, and will defend both but I guess you can look it at this way. Welling has been playing Sups for 8 seasons and successful at that, Routh play Sups for 1 movie and it didn't seem to do much for him.

 

[Zing79]

I've remember reading somewhere, him saying something about a Superman typecast or whatever.....but good luck with that becuase he's already branded as Superman. I honestly think if he wanted the role he couldve had it....and I'm one of the biggest Welling supporters there is!

I strongly dissagree with this statement. Forget even movies for a second. Think of your personal life in general.

How many times have you seen some new management type (or any person in a position of power) take on a job, and not have their own ideas about how to do things?

Returning to Welling and movies. It doesn't necessarily matter if Welling wants, goes after, is willing accept the role. If the director brought on doesn't want him, you'll see that director make every excuse in the book to get who he wants.

And yes I realize there would be producers and execs that could technically shove Welling down any potential directors throat, but (returning back to the real world), you typically don't get to be in a high position of power without learning how to manipulate those above you.

So I could very much see how Welling (even if he wanted the role) might never get it. It would most likely take bringing on a director who liked him in the role and suggested Welling for the role before the topic even came up for discussion with producers and execs.

 

[barnface]

It's funny isn't it? How back when SR was announced, the idea or dropping of Tom Wellings name as a possible choice would get you flamed? SR fans argued, "He sucks at acting!" or "No one likes him!"

They should take a look at the facts, now. There is no denying it.... Tom Welling IS this generations Superman.

 

[Zing79]

I like Routh, and I like Welling. I've never been one to choose sides, and will defend both but I guess you can look it at this way. Welling has been playing Sups for 8 seasons and successful at that, Routh play Sups for 1 movie and it didn't seem to do much for him.

It should be pretty obvious now, (and should have been for a long time) just how large Welling's geek audience is when compared to anyone not name Reeve. He's had 8 years to build up a worldwide fan base.

Any time you see these mainstream polls where fan bases unite in an attempt to push their guy over the top, it comes out exactly the same each time. With one notable exception: Welling has been progressively catching up to Reeve year after year. The further away you get from the Donnerverse movies, the more like it is that Welling will supplant Reeve in these polls.

 

[Zing79]

It's funny isn't it? How back when SR was announced, the idea or dropping of Tom Wellings name as a possible choice would get you flamed? SR fans argued, "He sucks at acting!" or "No one likes him!"

They should take a look at the facts, now. There is no denying it.... Tom Welling IS this generations Superman.

LOL, I don't necessarily know about that. Tom's fan bases are splintered all over the internet. Smallville's board is absolutely burried on Hype (it's not even a subsection of Superman's board).

He's always had a large fan base (even back then). It just so happens that people who dislike him happen to hang out together in a few large groups. While people that love him, hang out it countless small groups.

 

[SpideyVille]

You mean tip OF an iceberg? , no, but I don't really know what that means anyway. So have fun with that.




Steve

It's defined as "A small evident part or aspect of something largely hidden".

This is basically saying that you only know part of the story, since the rest of it isn't seen, or in this case, discussed in public. You may have heard stories and rumors, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are 100% correct, so you can't really comment on something that you don't know the fully story to.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

LOL, I don't necessarily know about that. Tom's fan bases are splintered all over the internet. Smallville's board is absolutely burried on Hype (it's not even a subsection of Superman's board).

He's always had a large fan base (even back then). It just so happens that people who dislike him happen to hang out together in a few large groups. While people that love him, hang out it countless small groups.

Agreed, Smallville's fanbase in general is pretty damn impressive. I've seen fan sites in just about every language, and entire sites dedicated to things like who Clark dates on the show. While I like to rip on some of the "extremists" in the fanbase it does say something about Tom and the show that so many people feel as strongly about the minutia of the show as they do. This place, while a great board for the show (although it has gone down the past few years), is not even the "tip of the iceberg" (to steal your phrase ) for the shows fandom. Most online SV fans I dont think even realize there's a SV board here.

 

[bootspark]

Holy Crap! Listen to the radio interview with Welling during season 5 while promoting The Fog....

His actual voice is DEEP and very adult.
He also talks about Superman and being type cast.

Ive never heard it before but its VERY revealing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6agz7pTWlE

 

[bootspark]

and..........

From the Coventry Telegraph

"Tom Welling takes flight as top choice for next Superman movie"

http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2008/08/tom-welling-petition.html

the support is out there

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Welling's lead: http://blogs.usaweekend.com/whos_news/2008/08/tell-us-who-is.html

Welling: 39.6%
Routh: 34.2%
Reeve: 18.3%

Be sure to make sure everyone who supports welling signs our petition and starts sending letters/emails! http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/tomwelling4supes

Tom's now up to 42%, Reeve is up to 2nd thankfully, and clown is down to 3rd with George Reeves not too far behind him. Common sense abounds, although when all is said and done Chris should be #1.

 

[Gmanofsteel]

Made a video on you tube to advertise the petition & promotions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOcSvgl04Ts

 

[Docker2.0]

I strongly dissagree with this statement. Forget even movies for a second. Think of your personal life in general.

How many times have you seen some new management type (or any person in a position of power) take on a job, and not have their own ideas about how to do things?

Returning to Welling and movies. It doesn't necessarily matter if Welling wants, goes after, is willing accept the role. If the director brought on doesn't want him, you'll see that director make every excuse in the book to get who he wants.

And yes I realize there would be producers and execs that could technically shove Welling down any potential directors throat, but (returning back to the real world), you typically don't get to be in a high position of power without learning how to manipulate those above you.

So I could very much see how Welling (even if he wanted the role) might never get it. It would most likely take bringing on a director who liked him in the role and suggested Welling for the role before the topic even came up for discussion with producers and execs.

Did you just reply with my post for the heck of it? Seriously, in your answer you say you strongly disagree......but you barely touched up on my post at all. But anyway, WB gave Singer free reign on SR and the movie cost over $200M to make and having disappointing BO returns. The WB will do everything they can to make their flagship back in the thick of things by getting the best director, actor and people necessary to do that...if they are smart anyway. Welling is owning in the polls as the people's choice to wear th cape and I'm sure the WB has noticed this. Heck they noticed when fanboys bashed JLM, SR, and Black's GL.

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea hopefully they are seriously looking into welling this time around even if he does reject the offer. I would love to hear hear officially he was offered and if he said yes/no to said offer.

 

[Zorex]

I mean, weren't the first few hundred "Who's your favorite?" tests enough?

It's never enough, when a person feels the need to have their favourite constantly validated. I guess something being your favourite just isn't enough... Ahh, competitive spirit.

 

[AgentPat]

It's never enough, when a person feels the need to have their favourite constantly validated. I guess something being your favourite just isn't enough... Ahh, competitive spirit.

Excuse me? Elitist much?

This is the "Tom Welling as Superman" thread. If one can't feel comfortable reveling about his fan's support here, something's fudged up.

I left this place months ago for many reasons. Sarcastic, mean spirited, and generally rude posts were at the top of the list.

Soooooo not farting around with this kind of indirect insult any more.

*plunk*

 

[heliorei]

Thank God for a reboot. It’s about time.

As far as it goes, I would love to see Welling portraying the character we all love and support but what kind of reboot should it be?


Use Smallville as continuity?

It’s a possibility. AS much as I love seeing Welling portraying Clark Kent and in my mind, he would be terrific playing Superman ( He’s this generation’s Superman; I Agree) , I really think that there’s a certain sense of injustice not to have the other Smallville’s cast members in this reboot, should Welling be in the movie.

I think everyone agrees Michael Rosenbaum was/is the best Lex Luthor ever. Erica Durance’s performance as Lois is to me, pretty solid, a performance far better than Margot Kidder or Kate Bosworth, IMHO. Annette O’Toole is a great Martha Kent. Michael Mckean as Perry White was great but if they want to recast, fine: he was only in one episode.

As for Chloe, Lana and Pete, they’re not essential for the movie so I wouldn’t consider them.

So to me, a reboot following Smallville could be a very interesting option:

In a way, the origin is already done: We don’t have to worry about it. They simply could use some of Smallville’s footage as flashback. We all know Superman comes from Krypton, He’s last son of a dead civilization, he works at the Daily Planet, he loves Lois…

As a film, it would have a different vibe from TV series, it wouldn’t just be a two /three hour episode put together which is an often complaint from movies made out of tv series like the X-Files or Sex and the City.
Smallville is a prequel above all: it shows the path of a boy who someday will be the world’s greatest hero. In the movie, the boy is already a man who is the greatest hero.

Should they (The WB) consider just Welling, I wouldn’t mind but there would be a certain sense of injustice towards other Smallville’s cast members.

So, IMHO, there are three options:

1- Use Welling but also use others like MR, ED, AT and use Smallville as background. (My favourite option)
2- Just use Welling, forget everything else: new story, new background, etc.( least favourite but still acceptable)
3- Unknown cast for every character, new stories, etc.

 

[Mike22]

You know...I hear a lot of complaints from the rather aggressive fanboys on the superman section, that with Welling it suddenly becomes Smallville:The Movie.Which I find to be complete and utter bull*****.They're using the audience to justify their dislike for Welling, which they're still a minority at by the way, the polls are indicative of this. Let's be real here, Whiny fanboys aside, no one in the general audience would give a damn whether or not Welling was in this movie, as long as it's good.
Let's take a good look at why we go to the movies to begin with. That's right, to have fun, an evening out with the girlfriend/wife or friends. This of course doesn't apply to a great deal of the Internet fanboys as they will go to see the movie to judge it and then come here and list the number of flaws with it.
As long as the movie is presented in a very appealing way that will peak the audiences curiosity, they WILL go see it. This isn't brain surgery, why the living hell are people making this difficult? Some of the people on boards like these have been here so long and are so affected by the day to day life of living in a fantasy land here, where they seem to have lost touch with what actually goes on in the real world when it comes to this topic.
Basically...I don't think anybody will give a damn about this. People in general aren't gonna go out with the sole purpose of listing what's wrong with a movie, and sitting there with their arms crossed, sarcastically waiting for Chloe to pop up. This is all in the heads a very small minority of fans, that just happen to be a bit loud.
Who ever they cast, people will go see it as long as they find it appealing. And I genuinely believe that with the massive screw up that was SR, the WB have learned their lesson by now, hence the reboot.

I obviously favor Welling because I feel he fits the part in every way, and I feel it would be a natural progression after having been Young Clark for so long. Smallville should be seen as nothing more than a very long rehearsal when it comes to Welling potentially being in the reboot. Because the show and the movie will have nothing in common and I firmly believe that the casting of Welling would not upset anyone other than the 10 usual suspects over in the superman section that ***** and moan every time someone brings Welling up.

 

[triplet]

Oh look, another poll. [checks watch] Yeah, I guess it was about time to start up again, but how many times do they need to sample the waters? I mean, weren't the first few hundred "Who's your favorite?" tests enough?

[Pat waves to Jack.] Missed ya, hon.

It's never enough, when a person feels the need to have their favourite constantly validated. I guess something being your favourite just isn't enough... Ahh, competitive spirit.

Excuse me? Elitist much?

This is the "Tom Welling as Superman" thread. If one can't feel comfortable reveling about his fan's support here, something's fudged up.

I left this place months ago for many reasons. Sarcastic, mean spirited, and generally rude posts were at the top of the list.

Soooooo not farting around with this kind of indirect insult any more.

*plunk*

You thought Zorex's reply a veiled insult? I don't know if that's what he meant it as...

I took his comment to mean that people (fans or even the studios) reassuring themselves that Tom is still wanted dozens of times isn't necessarily a bad thing, in a way it's a good thing.

Really drive home no matter how many times the poll is done, or much time has passed, he's still the number one choice in most people's eyes.

That's okay with me. Each poll will again prove to WB what I know is true: Tom is the single best choice for the part.

Full stop. No further arguments needed.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Reading some of the comments left on that poll makes me embarrassed that I enjoy the same character as some of these people. Christ. Between the blatant homophobic remarks, to people impersonating others, to people whining about the poll being crooked, its just freaking pathetic. How can you love Superman and then act in a way that would repulse him?

Although having been around here as long as I have, I cant say I'm surprised.

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea some people are just mean jerks in the world. As for welling and if he was picked for reboot and smallville continuity used is a tricky subject.

 

[spark627]

They should just cast Welling, end Smallville this year, allow a year or two to pass between the end of Smallville and the new movie, no Smallville continuity, just re-start the story... and done.