Tom Welling as Superman

[RakuMon]

Possible TW as Clark Kent cameo in the new Green Lantern movie?

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/12/0...n-casting-supermans-cameo-and-script-changes/

And while there’s already a lot of speculation over who would play Green Lantern — Ryan Gosling? Matthew Settle? David Boreanaz? — what about Clark Kent, who will make a small cameo? Will the part go to someone already established on film or television to be the Man of Steel, like Brandon Routh or Tom Welling?

“There were rumors that Tom Welling would have a cameo in ‘Batman Begins’ as a young Clark Kent, to meet up with a young Bruce Wayne,” Guggenheim noted. “But you have to be careful when you do things like that, because it sounds great in concept, but when you sit down to watch it, it poses the danger of pulling you out of the film.”

But as a self-proclaimed “sucker for a good Easter egg,” Guggenheim said, “The fanboy in me would love that. Robert Downey, Jr. in ‘The Hulk’ was awesome. I love that stuff in general, and I think the fans would enjoy it. Brandon Routh or even Tom Welling [in 'Green Lantern'] would be awesome. And anything is possible. The beauty part of being the writer, though, is that I don’t actually have to make that judgment call.”

oh and George Miller is officially off the JLA film zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....LOL

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/12/01/george-miller-no-longer-directing-justice-league-movie/

Ha! I called this back in September!

http://forums.superherohype.com/sho...&highlight=welling+green+lantern#post15744314

Prescient, no?

 

[Mikelus]

^^ That would be cool if it happens.
Will WB finally make an official statement regarding the Superman franchise soon? They're so freaking slow damned!

 

[Migu-EL]

Even though i would love welling to get the cameo clark kent spot in the upcoming GL film. I rather it be someone new, and if a total reboot superman film does happen(i really hope it does) they should have that actor get the cameo spot.

Maybe if Welling plays the part in the GL movie that's indeed the route their going. Who knows?

 

[AgentPat]

Well, if I didn't loathe the morons at Warner Features before, I sure as hell do now. According to the latest issue of TV Guide...

"Clark might not be able to appear in the Superman outfit in Smallville's final scene since it could conflict with the big-screen franchise, according to [Executive producer, Darren] Swimmer."​

Article says nothing about Welling not wanting to wear the bad owfit, btw. It's the film franchise meatheads who apparently are the roadblock. Not that we didn't already know this.

On the plus side, Swimmer dropped a hint that if they can't get Welling to resign for S9, they might try a Martian Manhunter spinoff staring Phil Morris. But he joked about it, so it's hard to know if he was being serious.

 

[Zorex]

UGH. It's an understatement to say that if there's not even a glimpse of Welling in the suit come the series finale, it's going to be a really damn ****ing shame.

 

[Whoa]

Well, if I didn't loathe the morons at Warner Features before, I sure as hell do now. According to the latest issue of TV Guide...

"Clark might not be able to appear in the Superman outfit in Smallville's final scene since it could conflict with the big-screen franchise, according to [Executive producer, Darren] Swimmer."​

Article says nothing about Welling not wanting to wear the bad owfit, btw. It's the film franchise meatheads who apparently are the roadblock. Not that we didn't already know this.

On the plus side, Swimmer dropped a hint that if they can't get Welling to resign for S9, they might try a Martian Manhunter spinoff staring Phil Morris. But he joked about it, so it's hard to know if he was being serious.

Now that sucks. Clark wearing the suit in the final scene is the defining moment of the series & they want to take it away ? I think they are more then likely afraid of people liking Toms Superman more then the movie guy

 

[Captain Kirk]

UGH. It's an understatement to say that if there's not even a glimpse of Welling in the suit come the series finale, it's going to be a really damn ****ing shame.

Agreed! It's a damn slap in the face of all of us fans who have stuck with this show hoping to see the big payoff one day! Damn you WB!

 

[Mikelus]

Warner is so moronic indeed, they have no freaking logic.... maybe if we the fans try to convince them to at least allow some miserable seconds of Clark flying in the end with the suit without showing all the details of it... there's no way it can damage the franchise, these guys are just so stupid...

Did having Smallville and SR at the same time produced any problems? I don't think so.

 

[Webhead2006]

Well maybe they can have him in a justice league type suit like the one ollie had in identity.

 

[Captain Kirk]

If the Green Lantern movie is a go then they will have to cast someone as Superman soon to film the cameo. If Welling gets the gig then one would have to assume that he'd also be the choice for the reboot as well. If Smallville gets renewed and Welling is cast then maybe we could get to see Welling in the suit as like a precursor to the flick. I know this sounds a bit confusing but it could happen!

 

[Webhead2006]

yea it all is. I said this before i would love welling as superman and to be in the reboot if its actually 100% confirmed to be a total clean slate, which superman really needs. It would be better to totally go with an all new cast and a new setting/take and no be boggled down with donnor's/singer's take or smallville's. Though with all the problems wb has with getting any of the dc films out it would probably be better to just drop the clark kent cameo all together. Or and i said this a few times in the dc threads to either just have the ring fly past his planet desk and clark is just not there, or we see a body double from the back side and see no face.

 

[Gmanofsteel]

Well, if I didn't loathe the morons at Warner Features before, I sure as hell do now. According to the latest issue of TV Guide...

"Clark might not be able to appear in the Superman outfit in Smallville's final scene since it could conflict with the big-screen franchise, according to [Executive producer, Darren] Swimmer."​

Article says nothing about Welling not wanting to wear the bad owfit, btw. It's the film franchise meatheads who apparently are the roadblock. Not that we didn't already know this.

On the plus side, Swimmer dropped a hint that if they can't get Welling to resign for S9, they might try a Martian Manhunter spinoff staring Phil Morris. But he joked about it, so it's hard to know if he was being serious.

If they dare try to pull that **** I will boycott their superman film and won't spend a dime to see it

They think SR had a bad box office, just wait til their new film comes out after they prevented their fan favorite tv show fom having the ending it should have had. There would be hell to pay.

I think they are more then likely afraid of people liking Toms Superman more then the movie guy

which has happened already and Welling hasn't even worn the suit yet.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Warner is so moronic indeed, they have no freaking logic.... maybe if we the fans try to convince them to at least allow some miserable seconds of Clark flying in the end with the suit without showing all the details of it... there's no way it can damage the franchise, these guys are just so stupid...

Did having Smallville and SR at the same time produced any problems? I don't think so.

Yes it did SV was suppose to end because of SR till Singer stepped in and told the WB that both could run at the same time because they are doing a story about pre-Superman while he is doing a Superman story or something like that but if not for him they were going to pull the show during season 5.

which has happened already and Welling hasn't even worn the suit yet.

No what happened was people liked their choice for Superman they just didn't care for the movie as much. Which is funny because people actually like Welling the same amount as the movie Superman but they just don't care for SV to much. They both are a victim of their own product.

Also I am sure that even if Welling might not be able to wear the suit we will get like someone crying for help in the end and see Welling take off his glasses and dart out of the Daily Planet then next we will see a red,blue, yellow streak across the sky.

 

[RakuMon]

Geoff Johns is publicly campaigning to do a Superman (or Flash) movie for WB, citing his recent work on Smallville:

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/12/0...at-writing-live-action-superman-flash-movies/

Now that he’s done “Smallville,” comics scribe Geoff Johns told MTV he wants to take a flying leap and do more adaptation work of his favorite comics… much more.

“I love the DC universe,” he professed — which is no surprise to comics fans, of course. Johns has either written himself or had a hand in the scripting of many of DC’s most popular series, events and reboot projects of the last few years.

If “Smallville” extends into a ninth season, he’d love to write for that, he told us. If the CW had gone ahead with plans for “The Graysons” television series he would have been happy to write for that, too. But if the Superman or Flash filmmakers would just knock on his door, “I would love a crack at Superman or the Flash for a feature,” Johns said. (And he already has Richard Donner in his corner for the Man of Steel.)

According to Johns, he has tons of ideas to share… but with them, not us.

“I’d rather keep my ideas in a drawer, in case I get a chance,” Johns explained. “But I would love to be involved. It was my dream job to see the Legion come to life on ‘Smallville,’ to get to work with the director, to work with the actors, and I would love to do do more of that, just to introduce more DC characters to the world.”

Johns said that by doing more adaption work for TV or film or video games (such as he’s doing for DC Universe Online), you’d be exposing the characters to a much larger audience than the comic book readership ever could.

“You get to capture the magic and get that on film and show other people,” he enthused. “If I could do what I did with ‘Smallville’ on a bigger level, and bring it life beyond the comic books in various ways, that would be my dream.”

And it’s not only the top-tier characters that he’d want to expose. Some of the more obscure ones, like “Metal Men,” are already on his plate (he’ll be executive producing that one with Lauren Schuler Donner — but more on that later). But more than just the characters, Johns is interested in “the mythology and the morality and the hope” of the DC universe, he said. At Marvel, the heroes are more “grounded and gritty.”

“The Hulk is smashing through buildings,” Johns said. “DC is just a different place to be. The DC Universe represents overcoming your fears and doing the right thing. It’s like you can’t wait for the heroes to come, and you cheer when they fly, and they’re epic and huge. So to get something out there about how wonderful and how vibrant and how many different layers they have, that would be something to show.”

What do you think a Geoff Johns version of a Superman film would be like?

Maybe, if WB did give him the movie, he could bring Tom along with him?

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

I would love to see Geoff involved with this movie in some shape or form. If his secret origin book turns out to be good I would love to see that as a reboot for the movie.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Well, if I didn't loathe the morons at Warner Features before, I sure as hell do now. According to the latest issue of TV Guide...

"Clark might not be able to appear in the Superman outfit in Smallville's final scene since it could conflict with the big-screen franchise, according to [Executive producer, Darren] Swimmer."
​

Article says nothing about Welling not wanting to wear the bad owfit, btw. It's the film franchise meatheads who apparently are the roadblock. Not that we didn't already know this.

I'd love to see the logic behind why there's a "conflict" if Tom wears the suit for 5 seconds in a series finale. IF and that's a big IF there's another Superman film, it comes out in Summer 2011 at the earliest (depending on Batman 3). Why would Tom in a suit, assuming we get Season 9, in May of 2010, have any impact on that? Part of me thinks this is the showrunner's way of throwing people off, but part of me knows that WB is THAT dumb.

Yes it did SV was suppose to end because of SR till Singer stepped in and told the WB that both could run at the same time because they are doing a story about pre-Superman while he is doing a Superman story or something like that but if not for him they were going to pull the show during season 5.

That was never the case. That was pure speculation on Justin from BT's part about them having to end the show for the movie. He then recanted those statements, saying they were just speculation on his part. Singer didnt "save" anything, WB was quite content with both franchises running concurrently if they were both successful. The only thing Singer ever did was give his blessing on Smallville using certain storylines in Season 5.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

I'd love to see the logic behind why there's a "conflict" if Tom wears the suit for 5 seconds in a series finale. IF and that's a big IF ther's another Superman film, it comes out in Summer 2011 at the earliest. Why would Tom in a suit, assuming we get Season 9, in May of 2010, have any impact on that?

Well you have to look at it this way as well Hulk they are talking about a Clark Kent/Superman cameo for GL which is suppose to be out by 2010 maybe they don't want that to go against who they cast as Clark Kent for that role (who will more then likely be Superman for the next movie). But once again there are ways around the suit even though that would be the big payoff and also I don't know why this is coming as a surprise since we knew this could happen since the McG project and since the WB already has their Superman at the moment. Isn't this the reason why you have yet to see Bruce Wayne.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

I'd love to see the logic behind why there's a "conflict" if Tom wears the suit for 5 seconds in a series finale. IF and that's a big IF there's another Superman film, it comes out in Summer 2011 at the earliest (depending on Batman 3). Why would Tom in a suit, assuming we get Season 9, in May of 2010, have any impact on that? Part of me thinks this is the showrunner's way of throwing people off, but part of me knows that WB is THAT dumb.



That was never the case. That was pure speculation on Justin from BT's part about them having to end the show for the movie. He then recanted those statements, saying they were just speculation on his part. Singer didnt "save" anything, WB was quite content with both franchises running concurrently if they were both successful. The only thing Singer ever did was give his blessing on Smallville using certain storylines in Season 5.

There is an interview with the producers of SV (Gough & Miles) that did confirm this. Remember Hulk they did admit this almost happened which is why they said they were moving so fast with the storylines at the time to wrap things up. The tread is still here if you do a search.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Well you have to look at it this way as well Hulk they are talking about a Clark Kent/Superman cameo for GL which is suppose to be out by 2010 maybe they don't want that to go against who they cast as Clark Kent for that role (who will more then likely be Superman for the next movie). But once again there are ways around the suit even though that would be the big payoff and also I don't know why this is coming as a surprise since we knew this could happen since the McG project and since the WB already has their Superman at the moment. Isn't this the reason why you have yet to see Bruce Wayne.

that makes no sense. the GL cameo is of Clark kent not Superman. Clark on Smallville is already Clark Kent, in Metropolis, working at the D.P., etc. So if there was any conflict with what they're doing in GL it already exists. And I dont buy the GL in 2010 either. They're not far along enough in the process to have a movie like that greenlit, cast, shot, edited, and complete SFX work for 2010. They'd have to start filming early 2009 to even hope to get it out then.

There is an interview with the producers of SV (Gough & Miles) that did confirm this. Remember Hulk they did admit this almost happened which is why they said they were moving so fast with the storylines at the time to wrap things up. The tread is still here if you do a search.

You're confusing things. That interview was where Goughlar admitted that they had a 4 year plan for the show that was stretched to a 5 year plan. It had nothing to do with Singer saving them from the guillotine. I literally spoke to the guy who talked with Singer on a regular basis, and he told me that Singer had nothing to do with SV living or dying then. Singer's only input on the show was going over plotlines with Al & Miles and linking up some things like the FoS.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

that makes no sense. the GL cameo is of Clark kent not Superman. Clark on Smallville is already Clark Kent, in Metropolis, working at the D.P., etc. So if there was any conflict with what they're doing in GL it already exists. And I dont buy the GL in 2010 either. They're not far along enough in the process to have a movie like that greenlit, cast, shot, edited, and complete SFX work for 2010. They'd have to start filming early 2009 to even hope to get it out then.



You're confusing things. That interview was where Goughlar admitted that they had a 4 year plan for the show that was stretched to a 5 year plan. It had nothing to do with Singer saving them from the guillotine. I literally spoke to the guy who talked with Singer on a regular basis, and he told me that Singer had nothing to do with SV living or dying then. Singer's only input on the show was going over plotlines with Al & Miles and linking up some things like the FoS.

I think your mistaken Hulk there is an old interview where they were talking about this as well as Singer was talking about this. But that was before SR came out and when the WB thought the movie would make close to Spider-Man numbers. But there was a time where that show was told to wrap things up till he stepped in. Hell they even had the interview on Supermanhomepage. It was not a BT thing. If I wasn't so lazy I would get it for you.



As far as GL goes we have no idea how far or where the WB is with any of their DC movies because things are so tight lipped now. It is said that they plain on keeping Routh for Superman and even said that is a done deal but we don't know. It is said that Grant Morrison is on Flash now and things are moving along, it is said that GL is just about ready to start casting. See the thing is the WB has closed up all their leaks pretty much so just because we don't hear anything now doesn't mean things are not further along then we thought. Hell even the Superman movie might be further along then we thought we just have to wait for a press release for everything I guess.

 

[The Sage]

I would love to see Geoff involved with this movie in some shape or form. If his secret origin book turns out to be good I would love to see that as a reboot for the movie.

I wouldn't mind Geoff, but I totally prefer Morrison for a movie reboot. All-Star Superman's the best Superman story I've ever read.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

I wouldn't mind Geoff, but I totally prefer Morrison for a movie reboot. All-Star Superman's the best Superman story I've ever read.

I agree but he is involved with the Flash project. If this movie however is not a reboot but can be looked upon as a stand alone movie much like TIH then I think Johns is the right man for the job. But until I see Superman secret origins will I say he is right for an origin movie because he like Singer is heavily influenced by Donner.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

I think your mistaken Hulk there is an old interview where they were talking about this as well as Singer was talking about this. But that was before SR came out and when the WB thought the movie would make close to Spider-Man numbers. But there was a time where that show was told to wrap things up till he stepped in. Hell they even had the interview on Supermanhomepage. It was not a BT thing. If I wasn't so lazy I would get it for you.

I'd love to see the link on that one

As far as GL goes we have no idea how far or where the WB is with any of their DC movies because things are so tight lipped now. It is said that they plain on keeping Routh for Superman and even said that is a done deal but we don't know. .

No one's saying that except the one *****e over at ScreenRant who took the DC's guys comments and ran with them. please stop harping on that, and bringing him into every freaking discussion we have here.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

I'd love to see the link on that one



No one's saying that except the one *****e over at ScreenRant who took the DC's guys comments and ran with them. please stop harping on that, and bringing him into every freaking discussion we have here.

You missed the point altogether Hulk the point is we don't know where things are with Superman, GL, Flash things may be further along then what we thought which is why I say the I can understand why the WB may say no to the suit. Remember SV season 8 ends in 2009 by then Superman, GL might have a script and cast in place. Hell it is said that Nolan has already signed on for Batman 3 but we have not heard about it yet. Stop focusing on one part and understand what I am trying to say.

 

[The Sage]

I agree but he is involved with the Flash project. If this movie however is not a reboot but can be looked upon as a stand alone movie much like TIH then I think Johns is the right man for the job. But until I see Superman secret origins will I say he is right for an origin movie because he like Singer is heavily influenced by Donner.

Funny enough, it really should be the reverse: Johns should be on Flash, Morrison on Superman.

Johns is a good man for the job because he's a huge Superman fan and knows his history of the character. Influenced by Donner isn't really relevant, unless he's using Donner's reverence for the character as a model to go by.