Tomatometer predictions on this film? - Part 1

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[Taarna]

Any prediction for the rotten tomatoes rating? For those unfamiliar with the term, the tomato meter is from the rotten tomatoes website. The Tomoatometer is a consensus of critics who liked and did not like the film.

To achieve a fresh rating, you need 60% or more of the critics liking it.

I’ll go out on a limb and say this one is a rotten review with 50% or more of the critics giving it a negative review. Time will tell.


http://www.rottentomatoes.com/

 

[Pokkle]

I'm disappointed that the film is being torn apart by the critics. Its pretty embarrassing that it will be the worst reviewed Marvel film since Elektra. The first hour of the film wasn't even that bad and a lot of people here (who already saw it) said the same thing.

It isn't only the critics, the public hate the movie in France at least:
http://www.allocine.fr/film/fichefilm_gen_cfilm=180999.html

 

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@psylockolussus

I hear you but the first hour is only a part of the film. That's like me saying Charles Manson was the sweetest child ever so on Judgement day does that mean he gets into Heaven? I know, that was an extreme example but the total package is what the consumer is looking at, not just the first 5 minutes.

 

[psylockolussus]

I hear you but the first hour is only a part of the film. That's like me saying Charles Manson was the sweetest child ever so on Judgement day does that mean he gets into Heaven? I know, that was an extreme example but the total package is what the consumer is looking at, not just the first 5 minutes.

I've seen a lot of bad films that didn't even have a strong first half to get a RT rating higher than 20%. So 11% for a film that had a decent 1st half (62 minutes to be exact) is pretty bad.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

There's no conspiracy behind the really ****** score. Critics and fans alike just hate it

 

[Val_Zod]

Based on the sweeping comments regarding the fundamental issues of this film in relation to story structure, inconsistencies in effects, and short run time, I don't see the rotten tomato score recovering to give it a final rating that is remotely respectable. Clearly the film has issues that far outweigh the normal measures one might contribute to subjective points of view. So it appears the only thing left to do is sit back and watch the slow motion train wreck.

The one consideration left to reflect upon is how much will this impact the weekend tracking that originally had it grossing somewhere in the mid 40's. If these incredibly bad reviews make more buzz than the trailers, should we throw out those numbers and consider something less? Or is that a front loaded number that is essentially critic proof?

The opening projections did not consider the possibility of poor wom. Even if this thing manages a good Friday total, it could conceivably tumble by Saturday, which will put a damper on it. Many people go and check out a film at the last minute. Word from acquaintances, relatives, friends,etc will spread about the film, and it may very well die off before the end of the weekend.

Audience in large were already either apathetic or unaware about this film. These reviews will be the final straw on whether they should check it out. Word is already spreading.

For a good comparison, Pixels was projected at 57m opening weekend, only did 24m. We may be seeing something very similar.

 

[Orba]

The opening projections did not consider the possibility of poor wom. Even if this thing manages a good Friday total, it could conceivably tumble by Saturday, which will put a damper on it. Many people go and check out a film at the last minute. Word from acquaintances, relatives, friends,etc will spread about the film, and it may very well die off before the end of the weekend.

Audience in large were already either apathetic or unaware about this film. These reviews will be the final straw on whether they should check it out. Word is already spreading.

For a good comparison, Pixels was projected at 57m opening weekend, only did 24m. We may be seeing something very similar.

Also FF's awful WOM will have to compete with MIRN's extremely good WOM which could swing some away from taking a chance on FF.

 

[Raiden]

Given what we've heard about the production of this movie, such as reshoots and turmoils behind the scene, it's no wonder that this movie has some serious problems, and it translates the result to the screen. Critics who saw the movie took notice, and soon the audience will too.

 

[TalismanRing]

I've seen a lot of bad films that didn't even have a strong first half to get a RT rating higher than 20%. So 11% for a film that had a decent 1st half (62 minutes to be exact) is pretty bad.

The majority of the critics giving it bad reviews thought the first part though inoffensive was overly long and poorly paced; that it lacked sufficient character and relationship development as well as conflict and tension. There have been complaints the movie has no second act and that after the over long first act is rushed through to the it's very shoddy end. Therefore that first act even if it's not horrible is part of the overall problem of truly poor structure. Add on that many don't like the tone and found it a deary slog even at 94min and well there's your 11% RT score.

 

[Webhead38]

I've seen a lot of bad films that didn't even have a strong first half to get a RT rating higher than 20%. So 11% for a film that had a decent 1st half (62 minutes to be exact) is pretty bad.

I can understand your frustration based on your review, but I think this particular kind of movie begs for a pay off in the hero/villain arena that stands with the current crop of films in this genre. The Fantastic Four remain relatively "un-fantastic". And that's sad when you consider they have one of the greatest villains of all time in Doctor Doom and a treasure trove of villains after him that would make the Avengers blush.

It's got to be one of the oddest shortcomings in an industry that has the ability to make these characters breath more convincingly than ever. And when you look at something as conceptually far fetched as Guardians and see how well they brought that to life, it's really sad the FF continue to get the dated look.

I like all of your comments regarding the chemistry and initial set up for the film. It sounds like the movie had some strong ideas going in. But ultimately most good movies in this genre have those ideals in place. So I think critics and fans alike are going to bear down hard on this movie over lessons that quite honestly it shouldn't have to be learning at this stage. The Fantastic Four deserve a complete story. Chemistry is part of that. But delivering the goods based on a wealth of solid films that point the way should be an achievable task at this point. And I think THAT is why critics are no longer interested in giving these films a broad curve on a scale that has gotten awfully competitive.

 

[Orba]

Two more added to RT, looks like it will be at 10% when it updates.

 

[Kanon]

10% updated, 1 more rotten and it will be single digits territory

 

[Suzanne78]

Given what we've heard about the production of this movie, such as reshoots and turmoils behind the scene, it's no wonder that this movie has some serious problems, and it translates the result to the screen. Critics who saw the movie took notice, and soon the audience will too.

Honestly, in ways, it's almost worse like this, because the discrepancy in quality between both halves of the movie exposes everything that went wrong. That's what did me in with TASM 2; I could see the studio involvement/interference playing out as I watched the movie.

But even then, the majority of reviewers seem to also have substantial problems with the first part of the movie. So, the 10% (JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ....) is understandable to me. I feel contempt toward any movie that refuses to make me forget I am watching a movie, especially one with so many BTS problems.

 

[Raiden]

C'mon 9%!

 

[VictorDomashev]

No way in mother ****ing hell does this somehow magically rise up to 40% to 50 % if its especially in the single digits before tomorrow

 

[Orba]

By my calculation it is under 10% now

3 Fresh
28 Rotten

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I'm lowering my prediction of 25% to 5%. It hasn't gotten a single fresh rating since the lower-profile reviews starting coming in, and that's all that's left now.

 

[psylockolussus]

It is ten percent now.

 

[Taarna]

Two more added to RT, looks like it will be at 10% when it updates.

10% liked it?. Now I want to see how bad it is.....when it hits HBO or Showtime assuming the networks want to air it.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

By my calculation it is under 10% now

3 Fresh
28 Rotten

It still rounds to 10, but one more rotten and it will be at a solid 9 even with rounding.

 

[Crimz]

I, like others, thought it would be bad. But this bad!?

 

[JOE]

Don't care about any of these reviews, I'm going in completely unbiased!

 

[VictorDomashev]

When was the last time a CBM did this bad on here before the opening Friday ?

 

[Flint Marko]

Wow. I've been a naysayer for a while now, but even I'm shocked at how low this is going.
It's worth noting that Faraci is one of the positive reviews. I don't think anyone here really takes his opinion seriously.

When was the last time a CBM did this bad on here before the opening Friday ?

Green Lantern is the only thing that comes to mind, but even then that was hanging in the 40-30% I believe.
You might have to go back to Catwoman to find anything as low as this is going.