Eddie Dean
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Really? Even after playing Walter White, the biggest jack ass in the history of television?It was so weird seeing Cranston as such a jack ass, but I loved it.
Really? Even after playing Walter White, the biggest jack ass in the history of television?It was so weird seeing Cranston as such a jack ass, but I loved it.
I'm behind on Breaking Bad, but never found that character to be too much of a jack ass.Really? Even after playing Walter White, the biggest jack ass in the history of television?
This exactly. It was going to open well regardless. The Bay haters were just blinded to the global brand awareness of the franchise. Plus I saw it 7 times and on the Transformers message boards it was common to see posts of people seeing 3,4,5 times.transformers is a popular brand with lots of history with world wide appeal to all ages much like spiderman don't see why people are surprised those movies made so much good or bad films aside
To me...this was a fantastic action hero flick. We had GREAT stunt work, plenty of strong action scenes. That's really all you need to make a solid action film.

Tell that to T2.![]()
This exactly. It was going to open well regardless. The Bay haters were just blinded to the global brand awareness of the franchise. Plus I saw it 7 times and on the Transformers message boards it was common to see posts of people seeing 3,4,5 times.
Total Recall isn't some mega beloved film franchise. What happened as I see it is that critics piled on(you know they didn't get a screening and this often happens) then internet trolls spread it around as if this was gospel fact. Those that went then had lowered expectations are were predisposed to see flaws thus insuring sour WOM. Sadly too many still use RT, Metacritic etc as a crutch to "tell them" what to expect but I digress.
I'm not saying it was Shakespeare, it wasn't trying to be, it was a sci-fi film with some action, suspense and mystery. That's what it billed itself as and it frankly succeded imo. You don't need to see it 4-6 times in the theater but it's fun to see it once in that environment. Sadly it looks like many won't.
If they hadn't included the relationship between the kid and the terminator I would have enjoyed it just as much.
I bet you didn't need the emotional and psychological state of Sarah or the dilemma of Dyson as well.![]()
There is a reason there is Raiders, T2, Die Hard, First Blood, Robocop and then the good action films (Bourne, Predator, Terminator etc.) and then the stuff you described.
Not sure from a #'s viewpoint Prometheus is the great comparison you think. It's also part of an existing franchise so built in audience is a factor as well, something TR doesn't have.Prometheus had good reviews and a good opening and then ****** legs because the audience didn't like it that much. They were more mixed on it than the critics were. The critics and internet do not control the audience. The audience disliked Total Recall so it fell 68% this weekend, that's all there is to it.
Predator belongs in that first tier wayyyy more so than Robocop does.
I'll tell you what i see about the net in the half dozen or so sites I frequent most. People who openly say they've not seen the film but man it must be **** after the reviews. They then use the second weekend drop as proof when in actuality the wom is being polluted by people who've never seen the film whose opinion was formed by stuffy critics.
Did a small % probably actually not like it, yeah, I can concede that.
It was more than a small number. I'm sorry but your friends are not a big enough sampling group.Not sure from a #'s viewpoint Prometheus is the great comparison you think. It's also part of an existing franchise so built in audience is a factor as well, something TR doesn't have.
It's second weekend was 59% drop, a near 10% difference, it's also done over $300m WW and domestically equalled it's stated production budget. Don't start quoting percentage share to me, I know that stuff. The most important thing of all is that FOX has announced the sequel, when it crossed $300m it was in the black enough to move forward so the WOM on it wasn't as bad as your making out.
I'll tell you what i see about the net in the half dozen or so sites I frequent most. People who openly say they've not seen the film but man it must be **** after the reviews. They then use the second weekend drop as proof when in actuality the wom is being polluted by people who've never seen the film whose opinion was formed by stuffy critics.
Did a small % probably actually not like it, yeah, I can concede that.


It's not a poorer version of Verhoeven's film, it's actually very different, and a better adaptation of the original novel (but not a better film).
Big Ben's there cause the movie is set in London and Australia, which are the only habitable places left on Earth.
It's not a poorer version of Verhoeven's film, it's actually very different, and a better adaptation of the original novel (but not a better film).
Big Ben's there cause the movie is set in London and Australia, which are the only habitable places left on Earth.