Transformers RPG Season I Sign up/OOC Thread

[LouFerignoDemon]

No offense, Ror, but if you want to seem intelligent then typing like it is the first step. I understand this is new, but your first couple posts were pretty abysmal in that there was no coherent structure and they were totally opposite the styles of every other poster.

What do people think of my take on Grimlock and the Dinobots? I figure that, given Grimlock's character, making him a Decepticon at inception makes a lot of sense. Until Prime saved him, Grimlock didn't really respect Optimus and thought him something of a coward. Basically, it seems to me that at this point and for quite some time the only thing the Dinobots really respect is personal bravery and strength. As such, now they're turning on the Decepticons because the Autobots don't represent enough of a fight to get them interested.

Am I on the right thought track here? I will admit, it's been eons since I saw G1 and I've not read many of the comics, so I'm hoping that some of you bigger TFans can affirm or deride my decision.

That was kind of how it worked in G1 (in the idea anyway), so you have no complaints from me.

 

[Eddie Brock]

ya that show was cool.

hey you guys read about 4 pages back.funny stuff.i...i was dying laughing.

thanks eddie.next time,if you have a problem say it to my face.dont try to get someone else to say it.and if your gonna say it behind my back.dont post it where i can see it,

having said that im willing to learn.but just cause im young doesnt mean im stupid.

I wasn't doing anything behind your back. If that were the case, I would've done it over PM.

Don't put words into my mouth, either. I never said you were stupid or young. I only stated that you are new, and thus, do not have a handle on how things run here.

I merely want you to think before you post. Proper grammar is a given in an RPG. If one player doesn't do it, it reflects on all of us as a whole. Not to mention that it can be difficult or annoying to read.

 

[Kaboom]

Oh for the love of...

Do you actually have any reason for saying no that makes sense, or is an actual rebuttal (silly concept, I know) to my earlier points about how Jazz isn't taking anything away from the importance of Bumblebee's actions? Or are you just enjoying being stubborn and immature about this?

yes i already rebutted and truly dislike having to repeat myself. If you dont remember what they are, go back and re-read them.

Here's another concept, compromise. I already offered one scenario, the only thing you've done is stand by your previous position that you want to tell the story your way.

As long as that remains your position, Sentinel Prime and coincidently, I, will not approve of Jazz's actions.

And I never resorted to name calling. For you to call my position stubborn and immature, simply because you disagree with it belays your own and does not incline me to extend any further comprises to satisfy you.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Kaboom, Spike, I have an idea of how to settle this problem...

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You two mud-wrestle fight. NOW.

 

[Spike_x1]

yes i already rebutted and truly dislike having to repeat myself. If you dont remember what they are, go back and re-read them.

No, you did not offer any rebuttal to this:

Fine, if you're going to freak out about it, then I might as well point out the fact that in your application, Bumblebee was supposed to go on the mission on his own accord. Not under orders from anyone, and then sneak onboard the Arc. Why would he have to sneak onboard if he had Sentinel Prime's authorization? Don't bother bringing up the details in your app unless you're actually staying true to them yourself; even if I was doing anything related to Bumblebee's mission (which I'm not).

Bumblebee does prevent the Arc's destruction. He saves everyone's lives. He's a hero. How many times do I have to type that?

You get what you wanted in your application. There's no comprimise required of you in there whatsoever. So why do you act as if I'm forcing such a comprimise out of you?

The Arc has to crash on Earth anyway to go along with the basic Transformers plotline, right? So all Jazz is doing, when all is said and done, is making sure that the Nemesis crashes too. Nobody would've died from the crash, so it's not as if Jazz saved anyone's life like Bumblebee did; so I don't see how it's taking anything away from the importance of Bumblebee's success.

Please, enlighten me on your rebuttal to those points. I don't care if you don't like having to "repeat" yourself. Don't just say that you've already countered those points and move on, because I've looked. You haven't addressed them.

Here's another concept, compromise. I already offered one scenario, the only thing you've done is stand by your previous position that you want to tell the story your way.

Tell me why you feel that a compromise is in order and the notion might not seem so illogical to me. I'm not asking for you to do anything that goes against your application, so why do you feel the need to change your plans?

And your compromise actually did involve Bumblebee screwing up and being the cause of the crash, which was your original faulty premise for denying my idea. So your compromise wouldn't have changed anything for the better. Quite the opposite, actually. Insert rebuttal here please, as I'm genuinely interested in what you have to say in regards to that.

As long as that remains your position, Sentinel Prime and coincidently, I, will not approve of Jazz's actions.

I'm not asking you to do anything that you weren't already going to do, so what basis do you have to deny me the right to tell my own story? Jazz's plot doesn't affect anything that Bumblebee is doing. I would honestly like a GM's input on this, as I can't post in the IC thread until this is resolved.

And I never resorted to name calling. For you to call my position stubborn and immature, simply because you disagree with it belays your own and does not incline me to extend any further comprises to satisfy you.

If the shoe fits. It's not "simply because I disagree with it." It's because of all these points mentioned above which you're flipflopping around and dodging my questions and views towards, but still insisting that we both have to alter our stories for some reason when it's obviously unnecessary.

 

[Rorshach]

No, you did not offer any rebuttal to this:Please, enlighten me on your rebuttal to those points. I don't care if you don't like having to "repeat" yourself. Don't just say that you've already countered those points and move on, because I've looked. You haven't addressed them.
Tell me why you feel that a compromise is in order and the notion might not seem so illogical to me. I'm not asking for you to do anything that goes against your application, so why do you feel the need to change your plans?

And your compromise actually did involve Bumblebee screwing up and being the cause of the crash, which was your original faulty premise for denying my idea. So your compromise wouldn't have changed anything for the better. Quite the opposite, actually. Insert rebuttal here please, as I'm genuinely interested in what you have to say in regards to that.I'm not asking you to do anything that you weren't already going to do, so what basis do you have to deny me the right to tell my own story? Jazz's plot doesn't affect anything that Bumblebee is doing. I would honestly like a GM's input on this, as I can't post in the IC thread until this is resolved.If the shoe fits. It's not "simply because I disagree with it." It's because of all these points mentioned above which you're flipflopping around and dodging my questions and views towards, but still insisting that we both have to alter our stories for some reason when it's obviously unnecessary.

why do you want to be a spy?jazz was like human relations.the spy thing is bumbles job to be honest.

 

[Saved]

No, you did not offer any rebuttal to this:Please, enlighten me on your rebuttal to those points. I don't care if you don't like having to "repeat" yourself. Don't just say that you've already countered those points and move on, because I've looked. You haven't addressed them.

Tell me why you feel that a compromise is in order and the notion might not seem so illogical to me. I'm not asking for you to do anything that goes against your application, so why do you feel the need to change your plans?



And your compromise actually did involve Bumblebee screwing up and being the cause of the crash, which was your original faulty premise for denying my idea. So your compromise wouldn't have changed anything for the better. Quite the opposite, actually. Insert rebuttal here please, as I'm genuinely interested in what you have to say in regards to that.I'm not asking you to do anything that you weren't already going to do, so what basis do you have to deny me the right to tell my own story? Jazz's plot doesn't affect anything that Bumblebee is doing. I would honestly like a GM's input on this, as I can't post in the IC thread until this is resolved.If the shoe fits. It's not "simply because I disagree with it." It's because of all these points mentioned above which you're flipflopping around and dodging my questions and views towards, but still insisting that we both have to alter our stories for some reason when it's obviously unnecessary.

Longest post I have ever seen. ^

 

[Kaboom]

I'm not asking you to do anything that you weren't already going to do, so what basis do you have to deny me the right to tell my own story? Jazz's plot doesn't affect anything that Bumblebee is doing.
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I would honestly like a GM's input on this, as I can't post in the IC thread until this is resolved.

I'm guessing. If Kaboom didn't shoot you down.

My basis is that I am Sentinel Prime and as such I feel it would be out of character for him to waste manpower and energon to have two autobots carrying out the same mission.

My right to "deny" you is implicit. I have the autobot matrix of leadership until I die (which will be soon) and I pass it along to Optimus. If you want to go and try to mess with Megatron you are perfectly within your right to do so, but if you want it to be sanctioned by Sentinel Prime, then you need me to agree to it.

and I'm not.

as for a mod's input, you already got it and i quoted the relevant post from Syn for you.

 

[Kaboom]

why do you want to be a spy?jazz was like human relations.the spy thing is bumbles job to be honest.

 

[Saved]

My basis is that I am Sentinel Prime and as such I feel it would be out of character for him to waste manpower and energon to have two autobots carrying out the same mission.

My right to "deny" you is implicit. I have the autobot matrix of leadership until I die (which will be soon) and I pass it along to Optimus. If you want to go and try to mess with Megatron you are perfectly within your right to do so, but if you want it to be sanctioned by Sentinel Prime, then you need me to agree to it.

and I'm not.

as for a mod's input, you already got it and i quoted the relevant post from Syn for you.

Oh great, my own words areused as ammo again. Look, what it comes down to is if two guys want to use their characters together or some type of colaboration or even a conversation, both parties must agree.

 

[Rorshach]

 

[Kaboom]

Oh great, my own words areused as ammo again. Look, what it comes down to is if two guys want to use their characters together or some type of colaboration or even a conversation, both parties must agree.

i offered a compromise, he didnt want any of it. I said we could do the mission together, he said no.

in fact ive already been approached by another rper for Sentienel Prime to sanction a side mission. I said, sounds good, go for it just let me know when you need me to post it.

one way is the right way to broach the subject, the other is not.

 

[Saved]

So, wait. What does Spike want to do?

 

[Rorshach]

he wants jazz to be the spy.

 

[Saved]

Why are we fighting him? Jazz was always a first Lieutenant. Lieutenants can do spy missions.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

he wants jazz to be the spy.

A spy.

 

[Rorshach]

cause he wants to be the one who discovered the plan to blow the ark.which is bumbles defining moment.

 

[Spike_x1]

cause he wants to be the one who discovered the plan to blow the ark.which is bumbles defining moment.

Did you read any of my posts or just Kaboom's nonsense?

 

[Eddie Brock]

It's tough because Bumblebee is a spy, but Jazz is a saboteur/special ops. Both jobs suit the situation, really.

 

[Spike_x1]

My basis is that I am Sentinel Prime and as such I feel it would be out of character for him to waste manpower and energon to have two autobots carrying out the same mission.

My right to "deny" you is implicit. I have the autobot matrix of leadership until I die (which will be soon) and I pass it along to Optimus. If you want to go and try to mess with Megatron you are perfectly within your right to do so, but if you want it to be sanctioned by Sentinel Prime, then you need me to agree to it.

and I'm not.

as for a mod's input, you already got it and i quoted the relevant post from Syn for you.

And in your application which you were clinging onto so vehemently earlier, Bumblebee wasn't sanctioned by Sentinel Prime. So your whole ideology of staying true to what you were specifically approved for doesn't amount to much.

You're just using your position as Sentinel Prime to deny the idea out of spite, which further concretes my opinion that you are being stubborn and immature. If that's really the type of player that I'm going to be working with on this game, then I can't see me lasting too long here.

i offered a compromise, he didnt want any of it. I said we could do the mission together, he said no.

Can you PLEASE give me an explanation for why a compromise is necessary and we can't do the stories as they were originally intended? I've asked this a number of times with no answer in sight.

 

[Spike_x1]

I'll do it without Prime's sanction if need be. I don't care. Bumblebee still stops the bomb. Jazz still learns about the failsafe and brings down the Nemesis along with the Ark. The stories go on as they were intended in the first place. The only difference is that both of us come across as being spiteful, where I'm doing it to just run with the original story, and you're doing it just for the hell of putting a wrench in the works.

 

[Kaboom]

If that's really the type of player that I'm going to be working with on this game, then I can't see me lasting too long here..

if thats the case, you probably shouldn't post at all so we dont have to retcon around you.

 

[Kaboom]

I'll do it without Prime's sanction if need be. I don't care. Bumblebee still stops the bomb. Jazz still learns about the failsafe and brings down the Nemesis along with the Ark. The stories go on as they were intended in the first place. The only difference is that both of us come across as being spiteful, where I'm doing it to just run with the original story, and you're doing it just for the hell of putting a wrench in the works.

keep saying youre taking the moral high road in this matter.

but who is the only one to have offered to compromise and work together?

oh yea.

me.

 

[Eddie Brock]

Ok, I'm not about to allow this situation to escalate to the point where players start to leave this RPG.

If you can't solve this situation in a civil manner, then neither of you will be allowed to continue with your plans. I don't care if Kaboom is Sentinel Prime. Either you solve this or we GMs do. Your choice.

 

[Kaboom]

Ok, I'm not about to allow this situation to escalate to the point where players start to leave this RPG.

If you can't solve this situation in a civil manner, then neither of you will be allowed to continue with your plans. I don't care if Kaboom is Sentinel Prime. Either you solve this or we GMs do. Your choice.

EBJ, I firmly believe that Sentinel Prime would not sanction two spies trips to discover Megatron's plans.

i offered for them to go as a team.

for some reason thats not good enough.

I will not give in again, just to give in.

Bumblebee is a spy. Its his character, and i was approved to discover megatron's plan to blow up the arc. I applied for and was approved as sentinely prime to help accomplish that goal.

Jazz is not a spy.

one person is acting out of character here, and it is not me.