The Dark Knight Rises Two-Face to return?...Maybe

[batman11]

I feel like my brain cells have died a bit after reading this thread.

 

[Symbiotic]

I feel like my brain cells have died a bit after reading this thread.

It needs one giant facepalm.

 

[Jick]

Honestly, so am I.
I'm losing my time here.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Overkill much.

No, it's a fair assumption based on the circumstances we've been given in the film.

I think it's fair to assume either way. I believe Nolan when he says Two-Face is dead, but I also believed he was going to return when I first saw The Dark Knight. As I said, I'll believe Nolan with whatever direction he takes with the movies, and whatever direction he says he will take before the movies.

I think another fair assumption is that Nolan is not being very predictable with the direction he's trying to take in the next movie, and that we shouldn't expect either side of the argument to be true. We should wait until the next movie comes out, as I've said, to determine what is canon in this line of films.

What I don't think is fair is assuming you KNOW he's dead simply because of what you hear in the news (despite the fact that nothing has been officially announced about the next movie), then berating other posters who believe that Two-Face may be back.

 

[Bathead]

What's ridiculous is to say you're %100 certain TF is/isn't alive/dead then ridiculing others and calling them "fanboys" and
"Interenet ninnies" who disagree with you, like that jerk who wrote that article mentioned a few posts back.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

What's ridiculous is to say you're %100 certain TF is/isn't alive/dead then ridiculing others and calling them "fanboys" and
"Interenet ninnies" who disagree with you, like that jerk who wrote that article mentioned a few posts back.

Did I do that...

If so, I don't remember that...

 

[DCnightwing23]

I believe TWO-FACE will be back, but Harvey Dent is the character thats dead. Its possible Two-Face might be back. Because nothing has been comfirmed by WB.

 

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

It would be cool to see Two-Face back.

 

[kid dropper]

I believe TWO-FACE will be back, but Harvey Dent is the character thats dead. Its possible Two-Face might be back. Because nothing has been comfirmed by WB.

GAWD DAMN IT! Two -Face lives in Harvey's Bod- deeeeeee!!!!!! They were not seperate entities. He was not schizo in this interpretation. Even if he was, Harvey's body, which is home to the Two-Face persona , lay broken and dead, my friend.

Game . Set. Match.

Point, Dropper.

Game Over.

End of Game


( Stifles self, leaves room)

 

[DCnightwing23]

Im talking about symbolically. Harvey Dead was turned into Two-Face. And corrupted. Harvey is is Dead.

Two-face still lives. At the memorial, there was no casket. Nothing.

 

[jmc]

Damn you Eckhart, do you see the fuss you've caused now? You've got those clinging on the the faintest of hopes that Two-Face will be back all wild for nothing, conjuring up wild scenario after wild scenario as to ways to bring the character back. Seriously Aaron, we know it's amusing to mock the fanboys, hell, it's damn hilarious at times, but dude, come on, think of the rest of us who have to put up with it, damn it Eckhart, think of the children!

 

[Temple Fugate]

he's dead get over it.

that was an incredibly vague answer of his. you can interpret anything from it

 

[kid dropper]

The memorial shot was extremely tight on Gordon, now wasnt it? who is to say there was not a casket off screen? and even then it was a press conference memoial, not a funeral. No casket at those things. Where was Loeb's casket? We know he was dead dont we?

 

[DCnightwing23]

No funeral? Odd.

Kid Dropper, little one. There is still ideas that can happen to bring back Two-Face. Two-Face is a character that fits really well with Nolans Gotham. Many options for Two-Face.

Im just saying, i agree with people when they say they wanna see a new character, im all for Black Mask or something fresh. But Harvey Dent/ Two-Face was Gothams White Knight. A big factor in Gotham getting cleaned up, and now he's been corrupted and is pretty much a killer.

Those differences of him would be great to see more of on the big screen.

But im al for a new character as well.

 

[kid dropper]

i never said there was no funeral, we just didnt see it. a memorial and a burial service are different things. of course he had a funeral. he probably had an autopsy and embalming, but we didnt see that either. Im not saying hes dead because i want new characters. Im saying hes dead because HEEEEE ISSSSSS DEEEEEEAAAAADDDD.

 

[Invisiboy]

If I'm not mistaken, Eckhart was asked this question in a previous interview and he described our friend Harvey as "Dead as a doornail". Watching the video, I honestly think he was laughing at how ridiculous the name 'Harvey' sounds when you say it; he said the name each time he laughed and saying it out loud, I can't help but at least giggle myself.

 

[kid dropper]

He was a bit tipsy as well , id surmise.

 

[batman11]

OMG you guys are right! Nolan never showed the bodies Rachel, Loeb, Lau, Gamble, Judge Surrillo, Maroni, Maroni's driver, Wuertz, the Chechen, the cops at the hospital, the thug with the bomb in his stomach and the dead cop that tries to stop the slaughter truck. He didn't even give them funerals, caskets or autopsies either! Bring teh cHaractrrz baCkzz!!!!111

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Oh Jesus...
Did you see the movie? Did you notice that Gordon made a speech telling the people of the city about Harvey's death in the following day of Two-Face's demise?
He wouldn't be doing that if, when he got back to the scene, Two-Face wasn't there anymore.

Did YOU see the movie? Why wouldn't he try to cover up the fact that this.. fugitive that had everyone's hopes up about a clean city is in fact not dead, and on the loose? Keeping the people's faith in Harvey was the entire point of the end scene.

 

[cerealkiller182]

No, it's a fair assumption based on the circumstances we've been given in the film.

I think it's fair to assume either way. I believe Nolan when he says Two-Face is dead, but I also believed he was going to return when I first saw The Dark Knight. As I said, I'll believe Nolan with whatever direction he takes with the movies, and whatever direction he says he will take before the movies.

I think another fair assumption is that Nolan is not being very predictable with the direction he's trying to take in the next movie, and that we shouldn't expect either side of the argument to be true. We should wait until the next movie comes out, as I've said, to determine what is canon in this line of films.

What I don't think is fair is assuming you KNOW he's dead simply because of what you hear in the news (despite the fact that nothing has been officially announced about the next movie), then berating other posters who believe that Two-Face may be back.

Claiming that you need an autopsy to accept that Two-Face died in The Dark Knight is most certainly overkill. Dent's death is as obvious as Loebs but no one questions that. I walked out of the theater as well as my friends thinking that Dent was dead. I heard someone say, "Why did they kill Dent?" I am still kinda hoping they leave him dead, Dent, the mob killer, seems like a step down from the fantastic arc that we saw.

The media? Your gonna take a cynical point of view on the media to propose that Two-Face actually live? I doubt you'd take such a cynical view if the same media outlets were talking about Eckharts return.

Im just looking at the facts

Movie featured Two-Face lying breathless and Gordon and Batman discussing how they were going to hide his actions. Plus a memorial for the death of Two-Face and Batman saying he'd take the blame.

The screenplay published in The Dark Knight: Featuring Production Art and Full Shooting Script that said "Dent lies at the bottom of the hole, his neck broken. DEAD."

An audio interview here with Jonathan Nolan, the writer
http://www.incontention.com/?p=1010
discussing the dynamic that comes from Batman killing Dent and the thinking that led to Batman killing someone.

http://www.hecklerspray.com/more-bat.../200815991.php
Eckhart, after saying he didnt know what was happening but that he would love to return if they let, says Nolan says Dent is dead.

Now, I have even gone out of my way to say that nothing is set in stone and they very well could bring him back, but considering the evidence there I am confident in saying there are no plans to bring him back AT THIS TIME.

And Bathead, I dont think internet people are stupid for speculating, but when they look at the evidence and still say Dent is alive is when I start to wonder.

 

[infamous]

much ado about nothing

 

[kid dropper]

all the evidence right there

 

[El Payaso]

I tell you Commissioner Loeb is alive. the whole memorial thing on the streets, yeah. But there was no Loeb's body to be seen.

Untill I saw his corpse, to me, he's alive.

In the script it didn't say he died. He was just momentarily poinoned people. Of course they said he was killed, but just to confuse people.

He is alive and I'll be cool when he's back in the next movie.

Same with judge Surrillo, since she of course got out of the car just in time.

 

[batman11]

I tell you Commissioner Loeb is alive. the whole memorial thing on the streets, yeah. But there was no Loeb's body to be seen.

Untill I saw his corpse, to me, he's alive.

In the script it didn't say he died. He was just momentarily poinoned people. Of course they said he was killed, but just to confuse people.

He is alive and I'll be cool when he's back in the next movie.

Same with judge Surrillo, since she of course got out of the car just in time.

YES! Finally someone who agrees with me! And weren't you amazed with Lau's 007-esque skills? Not only did he cut himself free from being bound and gagged, but he back flipped off the pile of cash before the flames burned him alive. Excellent calcoolations by the LSI Holdings CEO indeed. Damn that Nolan is a genius!

 

[DCnightwing23]

Im pretty sure Havery Dent, gothams white knight, is more important then those minor characters. Seriously, your sarcasm is harsh. Idk, im fine with Two-face not being in any more films, but it would be nice to see on the big screen, more of, gothams white knight, corrupted, possibly helping a villain like Black Mask, seeing as Dent knew alot about ho Gotham works.

It'd be interesting.