UBISOFT+Theif+PoP+Splinter Cell = ASSASSIN'S CREED!

[Manny Calavera]

In this case though, despite you're baised ramblings, it's much more the fact that developers have more familiar hardware to work with on the 360 then the PS3. The PS3 is day and night compared to the tool support and ease of use of the PS2 according to many developers, but it's still a new architecture that they have to code in such a way that's different from normal PC architecture, much more so then the 360 architecture.

Wrong. PPC is about as far as it gets from the x86/x64 architecture on the PC. That argument died with the first Xbox, despite your biased ramblings. And no, the PS3 and PS2 are not "day and night" as far as ease of development goes. They both have overly complicated, under performing hardware that features software development support from people who have little experience with that. Sony saying "yes, the PS3 is easier, lol" holds about as much weight as all of the other crap Sony has been saying, and certainly doesn't negate all the other evidence that the PS3 is the more difficult to work with platform. It's not familiar architecture on the 360, because unless the game devs have been working on Macs (they haven't), it's just as foreign to them as the Cell.

 

[Zenien]

Fanboys are the bane of humanity's already doomed existence. :

All of them do, but intentionally focusing on, and then magnifying, the Sony contingent in an attempt to paint people who like Sony as closer to what those fanboys are, is the wrong way to go about it, and oportunistic.

Anyway, it's time for this (awesome) game to hit the multiplatform section.

 

[Zenien]

Wrong. PPC is about as far as it gets from the x86/x64 architecture on the PC. That argument died with the first Xbox, despite your biased ramblings. And no, the PS3 and PS2 are not "day and night" as far as ease of development goes. They both have overly complicated, under performing hardware that features software development support from people who have little experience with that. Sony saying "yes, the PS3 is easier, lol" holds about as much weight as all of the other crap Sony has been saying, and certainly doesn't negate all the other evidence that the PS3 is the more difficult to work with platform. It's not familiar architecture on the 360, because unless the game devs have been working on Macs (they haven't), it's just as foreign to them as the Cell.

Then you REALLY have no understanding of the CPU's of each console.

You're a biased fanboy who's made it his mission to troll this section, it's not Sony who has been saying these things, and you're an outright idiot to think the tool support situation isn't any different.

Now kindly stop it with your FUD.

 

[Manny Calavera]

In this case though, despite you're baised ramblings, it's much more the fact that developers have more familiar hardware to work with on the 360 then the PS3. The PS3 is day and night compared to the tool support and ease of use of the PS2 according to many developers, but it's still a new architecture that they have to code in such a way that's different from normal PC architecture, much more so then the 360 architecture.

Carmack has said so that they two systems are very close and the PS3 has 'marginally moderatedly more power' obviously the 360 will probably display higher texture peaks because of the way their unified ram allow for that, but both systems are very close, and this is the generation where it'sgoing to be down to the developer, and the funding., more so then it was the last generation even.

"I think the 360 is the best box" says Blizzard in a much more recent quote that wasn't given as PR and wasn't dealing with specs on a machine that have since changed for the worst. Stop bringing up Carmack, it fails every time. That quote is out of context, outdated, and was not given in a candid "this is the way I feel" manner, it was given as a "take this with as much salt as you can find" PR manner.

 

[Zenien]

Yeah because he said it while taking questions at Quakecon from his fans and talking about development between the various platforms, that's so out of context. Blizzard statement is subjective since he was talking about also owning a Wii and PS3, to what did he mean the best box? "Best games? Hardware?

Online <-(which was the topic)?

You've got nothing now get out before you derail this thread with your weak flamebaits any further.

 

[Manny Calavera]

Then you REALLY have no understanding of the CPU's of each console.

You're a biased fanboy who's made it his mission to troll this section, it's not Sony who has been saying these things, and you're an outright idiot to think the tool support situation isn't any different.

Now kindly stop it with your FUD.

Hahah, wow. Please Zenien, explain to me the CPUs of each console. You don't have a clue what you're talking about Zenien, not a ****ing clue. Let's take a look at what I said in that post related to CPUs...hmm, I mentioned PPC architecture in reference to the 360 having one. Was that wrong? Did that betray a lack of understanding? Nope, it's common knowledge that the 360 uses a tri core PPC-based design. You fail on that end. I said that PPC was far away from x86/x64 designs....did you think that was wrong maybe? If you did, you're an idiot, because they're almost polar opposites. Hmm, that's actually the only things I said about the CPUs of each console....and both of them were right...well then, I guess you're a moron, huh? I guess you couldn't respond to anything I said, so you resorted to the juvenile tactic of "you're a fanboy", shortly before plugging up your ears and screaming "na na na na, I can't hear you". The fact is Zenien, you troll far more than most of the people on this board, you whine and ***** and moan when someone points out a fact without providing any of your own to counter it, and then you stomp around the boards like you've won the argument and no one recognizes it because they're all fanboys. Get over yourself.

You've got nothing now get out before you derail this thread with your weak flamebaits any further.

Let's review: I posted facts, you posted bull**** that opened with words like "biased rambling". You're the one flame baiting, not me. You're the one trolling around and pissing and moaning that everyone isn't busying jamming their fingers into themselves every time Sony makes a press release, and you're the one that's become a ****ing joke with how much you defend the absolutely most ridiculous **** that Sony does simply because hey, it's Sony. And you accuse me of "derailing" a thread after you wasted how many pages *****ing about it being in the wrong forum because it wasn't confirmed for the 360 even though everyone knew it was coming? Wasting page upon page on off topic discussion? Piss off to GAF where you might still have a shred of credibility, I doubt anyone's in the mood for your 'omg love sony or ur a troll' bull**** by now.

 

[Manny Calavera]

As a matter of fact, while we're on the subject, both chips are using PPC tech within them, and are both equally distant from the PC. If anything, developer's longer period of working on the 360 would help them in working on the PS3, and help cut your argument to peices, once again, though I doubt you'll listen. I'm sure you're typing up some ridiculous, lie-ridden quote war as I speak.

 

[THWIP*]

All of them do, but intentionally focusing on, and then magnifying, the Sony contingent in an attempt to paint people who like Sony as closer to what those fanboys are, is the wrong way to go about it, and oportunistic.

Anyway, it's time for this (awesome) game to hit the multiplatform section.

LOL......SO MUCH ARROGANCE AND IGNORANCE WRAPPED UP IN ONE TINY SENTENCE. THAT'S AS BAD AS 'SONY' SAYING "THE NEXT-GEN BEGINS WHEN WE SAY IT DOES".

'ZENIEN', YOU WERE THE ONE WHO B***CHED AND MOANED ABOUT THIS THREAD NOT BELONGING IN "MULTI", BECAUSE YOU FAILED TO SEE/BELIEVE THE OBVIOUS, LIKE THE REST OF US. WE CERTAINLY DON'T NEED YOU TO "ANNOUNCE" THAT THIS THREAD IS NOW FIT "TO HIT THE MULTIPLATFORM SECTION".

 

[Aiden]

Pwned

Nice one Kev

 

[Manny Calavera]

I just think it's hilarious that she can do **** like that, start threads like "Shadowruin" and "N3 sucks ass" and still call people trolls and still ***** and moan about something being off-topc and keep a straight face

 

[Zenien]

Compared to you? That's nothing, and Shadowruin was a joke if you remember? Of, right take it out of context now because it suits you.

Wow you're post is good for a laugh.

THE CPU'S USE APPC ARCHITECTURE THAT MAKES THEM THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS3 has a more alien CPU architecture and you refuted THAT? It was a golden oportunity! And you missed it!

Face facts Dentons: Cell requires a totally different approach to programming it properly then the tri core design of the 360 CPU, why do you think no PC company would use cell for general computing, why do you think it's so easy to port between the PC and 360? Not just because of Microsofts great tools, but because you need to program around these SPE cores using 256k memory on the PS3. You can't just port that ****, you need to re-write it line for line. Go argue with Steve Jobs is you want. Heck go argue with the cheif of R&D at IBM, I'll get you the articles and you can track them down if you know so much.

See the difference between you and me is that you are mister junior programming tech guy who knows a bit and thinks he knows everything. I'm not some low level fool around with useless things programmer, but I go out of my way to read articles about a damn topic so I know what I'm talking about and understand the situation to some degree.

The Cell processor is not 'just as' alien as the 360 Tri Core design (It's more alien to programmers), that's a fact. You can refute it, but all those people you claim to know more then will disagree with you.

Let's review: I posted facts, you posted bull**** that opened with words like "biased rambling".

Yeah because Carmack was so meaning something else when he said what he said, and the Tools haven't improved between the P2 and PS3 and developers so haven't said that.

If I made a statue out of you made of **** it would still only be half as full of **** as you are.

and you're the one that's become a ****ing joke with how much you defend the absolutely most ridiculous **** that Sony does simply because hey, it's Sony.

Funny, you should know better considering the conversations we've had.

And you accuse me of "derailing" a thread after you wasted how many pages *****ing about it being in the wrong forum because it wasn't confirmed for the 360 even though everyone knew it was coming?

All I did was make one post, not threatening at all, and things went from there because people started *****ing and moaning at ME for making a post just noticing that it was in the wrong section. So don't wrap that into something it wasn't, idiot.

Wasting page upon page on off topic discussion?

And you're one to talk, Stephen. How many pages of various threads have youd erailed and dessolved into flame baits? Of yeah, more then anyone else on this forum, heck probably more then everyone else COMBINED. You're a ****ty poster. You've even said to me that you'd prefer the PS3 forum not to be one big flame war started by you BUT YOU JUST CAN'T BARE LIZARD AND TOP DOG SO YOU FLAME THEM AND RUIN THE THREADS.

Piss off to GAF where you might still have a shred of credibility, I doubt anyone's in the mood for your 'omg love sony or ur a troll' bull**** by now.

Piss off out of this section is this is how you're going to act. I'm not leaving this forum, you know that, I know that.

 

[Zenien]

LOL......SO MUCH ARROGANCE AND IGNORANCE WRAPPED UP IN ONE TINY SENTENCE. THAT'S AS BAD AS 'SONY' SAYING "THE NEXT-GEN BEGINS WHEN WE SAY IT DOES".

Except not.

'ZENIEN', YOU WERE THE ONE WHO B***CHED AND MOANED ABOUT THIS THREAD NOT BELONGING IN "MULTI", BECAUSE YOU FAILED TO SEE/BELIEVE THE OBVIOUS, LIKE THE REST OF US. WE CERTAINLY DON'T NEED YOU TO "ANNOUNCE" THAT THIS THREAD IS NOW FIT "TO HIT THE MULTIPLATFORM SECTION".

I made one post with an edit, suprised that it was in the multiplatform section, and Gamera made a big reply, adn I replied, and then it got to him or something even though it really shouldn't have and you decided to jump in like an oportunistic ***** and use that and be like "OMG THAT WAS SO MEAN ZENIEN WAS SO MEAN TO YOU GAMERA! STOP BEING FRIENDS WITH HER"

And **** you for that to, using your own friend just because you don't like me.

THAT" what pissed me off and y'know what the funny part was, I was right the entire time, even Denton who I'm argueing with right now agrees on that so you cant take your post and shove it. The game is announced as multiplatform now (finally) it goes in multi, that's the way things work. But you decided to be all "LALALAALALA NOT LISTENING" in teh same vein that you do nothing in this forum but post negative Sony news and lurk the entire internet to find any article you can, you don't care about actually contributing, you just care about pushing your agenda.

If that was a burn of any kind you need to get your head checked, people mentioned before me this now goes in multi, so what's wrong with me saying it as well since that's where it goes, moron. Are the other people who said it raving egotists like you think I am (that in an of itself is a joke).

 

[Manny Calavera]

Yeah, who called it. Lie ridden quote war, so predictable. Briefly, the things worth replying to (few and far between)...

why do you think no PC company would use cell for general computing

For much the same reason that Steve Jobs wouldn't place it inside of his Macs, instead going for the unthinkable and using Intel - Because the Cell is an underperforming flop that can't even go toe to toe with regular old x86/x64 designs that are out now. The newer Intel Core 2 Duo line for instance murders it, absolutely embarasses the entire line. Because it would be an expensive downgrade in performance that would require everyone to rewrite software just for it to work and also to work around their new power handicaps. That's why.

why do you think it's so easy to port between the PC and 360?

You are so ****ing stupid some times. Do you honestly think it has nothing to do with Windows, direct x API's being the same, the .NET suite basically being ported over with XNA and the earlier 360 development kits? No, of course not, it must be that PPC and x86/x64 designs are exactly the same. Microsoft has been lying to us the entire time, the Xbox games actually don't need to be emulated, Apple lied too, you don't need Rosetta to run the original MacOSX apps on the newer Macintels, because Zenien believed really hard that she was right, and it came true. You're ****ing wrong, for the 100th time, because you don't know what the **** you're talking about and you couldn't find a copy and paste link from google to help you out so you decided to go ahead and just make **** up.

The Cell processor is not 'just as' alien as the 360 Tri Core design (It's more alien to programmers), that's a fact. You can refute it, but all those people you claim to know more then will disagree with you.

It's really amazing just how much bull**** you can manage to pump into each post. If you spent even half the time you spend on making **** up on actual research, you might not get laughed at by half the people here everytime you go in over your head and try to argue with someone who isn't Cardplayer. Yes, it's just as alien. You wanna know why Zenien? Because the tri core PPC works entirely different from the x86/x64 architecture, and so does the Cell. They are both entirely alien compared to that architecture, and yet here you are swearing up and down that the 360 is somehow easier to use because it's closer to a ****ing PC? It's nothing like a PC dumbass, nothing at all like one. It isn't the xbox, it isn't off the shelf parts clumsily thrown together in a big plastic box, it isn't a crippled PC Zenien, your argument is for the wrong set of consoles. Once again, you are wrong about every thing you decided to form an opinion about.





And oh yeah, I totally flame more than everyone else in this forum. I argue in the Resistance thread, and now here. Yep, that totally beats "Shadowruin", "N3 sucks ass", the constant, mindless trolling around about how everyone's "against" Sony and your steadfast refusal to admit that you've ever trolled or flamed in the entire time you've been here, the constant sales threads that are usually taken out of context and misrepresented that feature titles like "Microsoft fails" or "Xbox stumbles", and all the other bull**** you do. You post off topic **** all the time, and then ***** and moan if someone does the same, you troll around and flame to your hearts content and then ***** and moan if someone does the same, and you moronicly write off any disagreement as a product of someone being a "fanboy", regardless of how ****ing obvious it is that they're right. You're probably the biggest hypocrite on this forum, and you're also probably the biggest reason that this forum (the sony one) sucks as much as it does, because no one in here is allowed to disagree with anyone else without you swooping in and nagging them to death because they didn't get down on their knees and swallow for Sony. You are wrong. Get over it, and stop bringing this **** up. If I post something true that's bad for Sony and you disagree just for the sake of being a biased dumbass, then you can expect that to happen a lot more.

 

[THWIP*]

Except not.



I made one post with an edit, suprised that it was in the multiplatform section, and Gamera made a big reply, adn I replied, and then it got to him or something even though it really shouldn't have and you decided to jump in like an oportunistic ***** and use that and be like "OMG THAT WAS SO MEAN ZENIEN WAS SO MEAN TO YOU GAMERA! STOP BEING FRIENDS WITH HER"

And **** you for that to, using your own friend just because you don't like me.

THAT" what pissed me off and y'know what the funny part was, I was right the entire time, even Denton who I'm argueing with right now agrees on that so you cant take your post and shove it. The game is announced as multiplatform now (finally) it goes in multi, that's the way things work. But you decided to be all "LALALAALALA NOT LISTENING" in teh same vein that you do nothing in this forum but post negative Sony news and lurk the entire internet to find any article you can, you don't care about actually contributing, you just care about pushing your agenda.

If that was a burn of any kind you need to get your head checked, people mentioned before me this now goes in multi, so what's wrong with me saying it as well since that's where it goes, moron. Are the other people who said it raving egotists like you think I am (that in an of itself is a joke).

WOW......I WANT TO LAUGH, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY TOO SAD.

 

[Zenien]

It's funny that you have this totally skewed perception about me. :|

 

[THWIP*]

It's funny that you have this totally skewed perception about me. :|

WHAT.......THAT YOU'RE A SCHIZOPHRENIC, NEUROTIC, AND GENERALLY WACKO LESBIAN FROM CANADA?

 

[antariksh]

NOW WE BOTH CONSOLE FANS CAN HAVE LOAD OF FUN WITH

ASSASSIN CREED

THANK YOU SO MUCH UBISOFT.


BUt it gotta admit XBOX 360 has a much much better upcoming game line-up than PS3.

I will buy XBOX 360.

Sorry SONY you lost one of your customers.

 

[Zenien]

For much the same reason that Steve Jobs wouldn't place it inside of his Macs, instead going for the unthinkable and using Intel - Because the Cell is an underperforming flop that can't even go toe to toe with regular old x86/x64 designs that are out now. The newer Intel Core 2 Duo line for instance murders it, absolutely embarasses the entire line. Because it would be an expensive downgrade in performance that would require everyone to rewrite software just for it to work and also to work around their new power handicaps. That's why.

Yeah we're talking about two different applications of programming here.

You are so ****ing stupid some times. Do you honestly think it has nothing to do with Windows, direct x API's being the same, the .NET suite basically being ported over with XNA and the earlier 360 development kits?

Yes that's a big part of it, but programming 3 cores effectively is a lot easier.

No, of course not, it must be that PPC and x86/x64 designs are exactly the same. Microsoft has been lying to us the entire time, the Xbox games actually don't need to be emulated, Apple lied too, you don't need Rosetta to run the original MacOSX apps on the newer Macintels, because Zenien believed really hard that she was right, and it came true. You're ****ing wrong, for the 100th time, because you don't know what the **** you're talking about and you couldn't find a copy and paste link from google to help you out so you decided to go ahead and just make **** up.

No you're just ignoring the differences between both architectures and focusing on the PPC nature, which is a mistake. Where the hell you reach the conclusion of everything else you just infered I was saying, well, it certainly wasn't from what my post was saying.

You wanna know why Zenien? Because the tri core PPC works entirely different from the x86/x64 architecture, and so does the Cell. They are both entirely alien compared to that architecture, and yet here you are swearing up and down that the 360 is somehow easier to use because it's closer to a ****ing PC?

Realtive to the Cell, yes. 3 seperate cores is closer to a CPU then 1 core and 8 SPE micro processors. And the Cell is more laien to prgram for not just because of the aded difficulty of balancing the extra cores, but the small memory of each SPE, and the ton of work Microsoft has put into XNA to make porting between the PC and 360 easier.

It isn't the xbox, it isn't off the shelf parts clumsily thrown together in a big plastic box, it isn't a crippled PC Zenien

Never said either of them were.

And oh yeah, I totally flame more than everyone else in this forum. I argue in the Resistance thread, and now here. Yep, that totally

Uh yeah.

beats "Shadowruin", "N3 sucks ass", the constant

Uh yeah.

mindless trolling around about how everyone's "against" Sony and your steadfast refusal to admit that you've ever trolled or flamed in the entire time you've been here,

The hell? I so have flamed and trolled before, where the heck are you pulling this idiocy from?

the constant sales threads that are usually taken out of context and misrepresented that feature titles like "Microsoft fails" or "Xbox stumbles",

Maybe you'd like to submit your own opinion on the data then.

you troll around and flame to your hearts content and then ***** and moan if someone does the same, and you moronicly write off any disagreement as a product of someone being a "fanboy", regardless of how ****ing obvious it is that they're right.

I do? Point out where I've trolled to my hearts content, or trolled anywhere near the ammount that you do or anyone, and no, this is not "If you disagree with Sony you're labeled a troll by Zenien" it "Denton is a person who would have been banned from any other site where he posting like this".

I dare you: Say I'm as a corossive fanboy as you. Let's see if you can delude yourself to that level, the only reason I post in this section so much is because you guys are always in here breaking it down to the ebst of your ability.

and you're also probably the biggest reason that this forum (the sony one) sucks as much as it does, because no one in here is allowed to disagree with anyone else without you swooping in and nagging them to death because they didn't get down on their knees and swallow for Sony.

If I hadn't spent some time making a ton of threads, you guys would have just flamed everything in here until there was nothing, you TODL me this over MSN, so just because it happened there don't act like you can pretend you never said it.

You are wrong. Get over it, and stop bringing this **** up. If I post something true that's bad for Sony and you disagree just for the sake of being a biased dumbass, then you can expect that to happen a lot more.

You're a dumbass, Stephen. Post something that is bad from Sony, like putting BR in the PS3, that's a mistake, I'd much rather they put in and extra 256 megs of Ram or soemthing then waste it on BR which has no impact on games aside from massive data replication to improve seek times.

 

[Avalanche]

If some of you X-Box fans despise Sony so much, despise most the games which appear exclusive on the Sony systems, and despise the members who post in the Sony forum, why post in here? What do you get out of it other than causing yet another long running argument?

 

[Manny Calavera]

Yeah we're talking about two different applications of programming here.

Yes that's a big part of it, but programming 3 cores effectively is a lot easier.

No you're just ignoring the differences between both architectures and focusing on the PPC nature, which is a mistake. Where the hell you reach the conclusion of everything else you just infered I was saying, well, it certainly wasn't from what my post was saying.

I'll go ahead and group all of these together, both to avoid making a terrible, boring, "I'm just gonna not read that" post like yours, and because they're all equally stupid. Two different "applications of programming"? Example number one that you don't know what the **** you're talking about, there is no other "application" of programming. Maybe you meant that certain types of programs require different amounts of different processor clock cycles? Oh, well in that case.....so? I answered your question as to why they didn't. And now you're going to try and spin and say "oh well that's only because the applications that Sony was pitching the Cell for don't work very well on it". I mean, wow, do you even know where you're going with this? And yes, programming three cores is easier than a CELL? Your point? It'd be nice if you could try and stay on topic instead of dodging around the things that have been said just because you've been beaten into a corner. This was never about Triple Core vs Cell, this was about you being a moron and acting like PPC was exactly the same as x86/x64 and somehow more "familiar" to PC developers. Just because this was wrong and made you look like a complete dumbass doesn't mean you can just snap your fingers and change the argument at will, sorry. And that last part, what the hell are you even typing? I'm not ignoring differences between them, I'm saying that they are both different from x86/x64 and that they both have nothing in common with that architecture, making them both just as alien as the other, which is true. Get your facts straight before you try to argue or bog your opponent down with never ending drivel and quotes.

Realtive to the Cell, yes. 3 seperate cores is closer to a CPU then 1 core and 8 SPE micro processors. And the Cell is more laien to prgram for not just because of the aded difficulty of balancing the extra cores, but the small memory of each SPE, and the ton of work Microsoft has put into XNA to make porting between the PC and 360 easier.

Is anyone else reading this? Can anyone else confirm for me that I just read this? I mean, I really think I need a 3rd party to come in and verify that something this stupid was just said. You just said "closer to a CPU than", implying that neither the Xbox360 nor the PS3 chips are CPUs, that CPU is in fact some sort of brand name or a specific architecture. Has there ever been a time where it's been more clear that you had no ****ing clue what was going on?

Never said either of them were.
Uh yeah.
Uh yeah.
The hell? I so have flamed and trolled before, where the heck are you pulling this idiocy from?
Maybe you'd like to submit your own opinion on the data then.

No, you didn't, you just argued as though you believed it, though I guess it's possible for you to be deluded and out of your league enough that you would argue this way without actually believing it, so I guess I shouldn't have assumed there, my bad. Great responses, it's always funny to see someone be sarcastic, only to find someone dumb enough to actually agree, it'd be like a hardcore conservative watching the Colbert report and saying "heck yeah, finally someone who thinks like I do!". And where am I getting this "idiocy" from? From your general attitude towards other posters here? From every post you make on the matter? From the common knowledge that you feel as though you're somehow above it all and actually aren't doing the things you accuse others of doing, despite being one of the worst offenders? Let's review, again. I've provided multiple examples of you trolling....yet you ***** about people trolling. I can remember you giving some long, *****y "I'm on the rag" speech about how Topdawg's actions didn't justify our own and that saying that was juvenile....and yet, I also recall you saying that you made "Shadowruin", a troll thread, in response to Mentok, something you just denounced. I can remember you flaming THWIP or WHF to no end for a difference of opinion, no matter how calmly expressed or factually accurate...and yet you piss and moan about others doing it? You're a ****ing hypocrite, and you're everything you wrongly accuse others on this board of being.






The rest was a bunch of dumbass **** that didn't warrant a response. Wah wah wah, [insert some nonsense about BR to try and make her look less like a biased hypocrite], wah wah wah, [insert whiney *****ing about "flames" in this board that largely only exist in her mind, which takes anything that isn't "wow Sony sure is swell, right guys?" as a flame or trolling], and so on. It's sad, you clearly don't even have a ****ing clue what you're arguing about anymore, you're just so interested in not losing and not coming off as a dumbass that you don't care, you'll spew a ton of empty verbage at the screen and hit that submit reply button without thinking twice. What have we seen you do so far? Change the argument at will, showing a lack of understanding of what was being discussed in the first place, the implication that the CELL and Xenon/Waternoose aren't even CPU's (rofl), *****ing about "derailing" a thread that you already derailed yourself several pages back, and generally a lot of whiney, hypocritical moaning that myself and several others are tired of by now. You think we're trolls? Well guess what, too goddamn bad, I'll guess you'll just have to unwad your panties and get over the fact that some people aren't head over heels for Sony, and you might wanna stop your real trolling while you're at.

 

[Topdawg]

wtf happened here?

 

[Zenien]

Mayeb you're too ****ing stupid to realize there there are two types of code generally, y'know FLops based, and General CPU based, there's been some big discussions about it by developers that you seem to have missed idiot.

Wow you're STILL ignoring the architectural differences, between a triple core and Cell. You can spin, lie, and make your long bull**** posts Denton, and in the end it means nothing. YOU started this Bull**** by claiming that developer familiarity witht he archtecture wouldn't a factor ******. "Because they're both PPC based" which is the biggest load of **** ever because there are a million more things to consider the the PPC based nature of the cores.

I'm begining to wonder if you even know half the **** you claim to if you can't see the differences between the Cell and Xenon and view the PPC nature as the be all end all.

Let me just put this to you clearly Denton, you're a delluded fool if you honestly think you haven't trolled a great deal. You're the biggest ****ing troll in this forum, it's not what you say it's how you say it dumbass.

You're the ****ing peice of **** who thinks he's above it all you lame ****. I know I'm not above anyone here, ****ing ****** it's a ****ing message board, but you think if you attack people enough maybe you can shut them up. Peice of ****.

And yes, programming three cores is easier than a CELL? Your point

Thanks for agreeing with me, you ****ing ******.

Is anyone else reading this? Can anyone else confirm for me that I just read this? I mean, I really think I need a 3rd party to come in and verify that something this stupid was just said. You just said "closer to a CPU than", implying that neither the Xbox360 nor the PS3 chips are CPUs, that CPU is in fact some sort of brand name or a specific architecture. Has there ever been a time where it's been more clear that you had no ****ing clue what was going on?

Get over yourself, you know what I meant, idiot. And you accuse me of doing the exact same **** you're doing here. You couldn't even come up with a rebuttal to the fact that Carmack said what he said and it wasn't out of context so you decide to get all pisy like a baby, grow the **** up.

You know what I said Denton, I said the 360 would be more so closer to PC then CELL. WHY OH WHY? Maybe the ****ing effort Microsoft has put in making transitioning between the two as easy as possible? The API? The fact that coding with 8 microsoprocessors is a hell of a lot more of a divergence from General PC CPU's then 3 fricking PPC based cores.

You've got nothing, and no amount of lame asss long posts and attack on me will help you here, but keep shouting loud enough and you might drown out the ****ing truth.

 

[Axid]

Garry's Mod?

 

[TrailerCues]

This place is nuts

 

[Manny Calavera]

Really zenien, two types of code huh? Which one is C#, is that flop based, or uh, "general" based (I guess "Flops" is the only buzz word sony has put into your vocabulary)? What about Java, would that fall under "Flops" based code? Hahahaha, this is insane Zenien, give up. Flops based code?


And no, I'm not ignoring the architectural differences. I'm trying (in vain apparently) to get you to understand that you're the only one talking about them, because they don't matter. They're both entirely different from an x86/64, and therefore they both receive absolutely no help from developers being familiar with that architecture. But hey, don't let that stop you from ranting and raving and having your own little argument if you really want to I guess, like you said, it's just a ****ing message board, no reason why you shouldn't do that just because it'll make people point and laugh at you.

And, to close out this reply to yet another comedic classic of a post, let me try to put this to you clearly Zenien, hopefully minus all the bull**** you managed to pack into your post - How am I a troll, exactly? I hype 360 games in the MS forum, not here, something you and your brigade of moron pals can't claim. I make on-topic replies to threads about sony here, whether I dislike or like the topic, something you and your brigade of moron pals can't claim. Basically, the only thread I "trolled" at all was Resistance, which has long since ended. Meanwhile you've created several threads dedicated to trolling and authored countless more posts for the same purpose. You're a troll, you're a hypocrite, and you're also hopelessly wrong, so wrong that you aren't even in the same argument anymore. But you have to have the last word, you can't just bow out and say "you know what, I was wrong, and I was a ***** for jumping on everyone's ass for a month straight over the same **** I do, sorry", so go ahead and write another lie filled garbage post, neither one of us has anything better to do right now.