Uncanny Avengers

[Balthus Dire]

I'm finding this title to be pretty dreadful, and I typically like Remender's work.

 

[runawayboulder]

3 issues over 5 months ruins establishing any kind of flow to a story.

 

[StreetWarrior]

3 issues over 5 months ruins establishing any kind of flow to a story.

Definitely. I have a feeling that this run might read better in trade. After such ridiculous delays, the ending will feel anti-climatic no matter how well written or illustrated it is.

 

[Balthus Dire]

Do you think it's well written though? I'm just curious as to how others feel about it. I find the explanatory descriptive panels really stupid and unnecessary.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm still enjoying it. The delays have definitely hurt it and I'm not a fan of Remender's cockamamie logic where the Red Skull essentially lobotomizes himself, combines his brain with Xavier's, and somehow gets Xavier's telepathy, but the core concept is strong enough to overcome all of that. Of course, I was always gonna read the second arc anyway since it's so Thor-centric.

 

[JewishHobbit]

If Xavier's telepathy comes from a gene in his body, would only having his brain make that telepathy function? Wouldn't he need the X-Gene as well?

Just a scientific thought. I thought I'd share since I NEVER have scientific thoughts. I feel all sci-fi and dirty for having just said it.

 

[Donnie Darko]

I'm going to stick with this book for a while, but not sure how long it will hold my interest. The concept sounded fantastic, and I am looking forward to the new team members, so we'll see.

 

[runawayboulder]

I'm still enjoying it. The delays have definitely hurt it and I'm not a fan of Remender's cockamamie logic where the Red Skull essentially lobotomizes himself, combines his brain with Xavier's, and somehow gets Xavier's telepathy, but the core concept is strong enough to overcome all of that. Of course, I was always gonna read the second arc anyway since it's so Thor-centric.

I always figured it would link to what Remender is doing on Captain America with Zola. I recall an interview Remender did prior to the launch of UA where he said this Red Skull was released by Zola. I'm thinking the two stories are going to intersect down the line.

If Xavier's telepathy comes from a gene in his body, would only having his brain make that telepathy function? Wouldn't he need the X-Gene as well?

Just a scientific thought. I thought I'd share since I NEVER have scientific thoughts. I feel all sci-fi and dirty for having just said it.

I'll counter your scientific thought with my scientific theory:

All those years of Xavier using his brain like that would permanently change it, so it would function telepathically even without the X-gene.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

If Xavier's telepathy comes from a gene in his body, would only having his brain make that telepathy function? Wouldn't he need the X-Gene as well?

Just a scientific thought. I thought I'd share since I NEVER have scientific thoughts. I feel all sci-fi and dirty for having just said it.

Well your genes get expressed as traits, in this case the trait being a brain that developed a physical property of being able to read minds, so yes, in theory, having his brain ought to work. However, you'd also think Xavier would overtake Skull's body completely, personality and all, and maybe that is still in the cards, seeing as the story is not over.

 

[runawayboulder]

I'm pretty sure that Avalanche was the test trial before Skull did any cutting and splicing on himself.

 

[Havok83]

Forgot about Xavier. He's another with a kid with similar powers as him

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

I wouldn't go as far as to say Nazi's aren't relevant.

It wasn't too long ago that the guy that sang the Monday Night Football theme got s**t-canned for calling the President "Hitler".

Well that's a touch of our own patriotism, plus the fact that calling someone an anti-semitic mass murderer is a little over the top. But I think our own innocence has wanned a tad, coupled with Nazi's just not really existing anymore, at least as far as the Skull's Nazi's go, it's kind of hard to swallow the idea of Nazis running around trying to re-establish the Third Reich, or take it seriously.

I rather liked the slant Ultimate Comics did for the Skull character because it kept true to the heart while updating him to seem more modern.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

3 issues over 5 months ruins establishing any kind of flow to a story.

I'm still enjoying it. The delays have definitely hurt it and I'm not a fan of Remender's cockamamie logic where the Red Skull essentially lobotomizes himself, combines his brain with Xavier's, and somehow gets Xavier's telepathy, but the core concept is strong enough to overcome all of that. Of course, I was always gonna read the second arc anyway since it's so Thor-centric.

I've been getting into Thor big-time.
Love his title and his appearance in Uncanny Avengers, but yeah, like it's been said, the delays have been a drag.

 

[Donnie Darko]

Read #4 last night. Easily the best issue of the series so far.

 

[Havok83]

#4 is out? I thought we were only up to 3

 

[chamber-music]

Red Skulls evil speech was good. loved the flashback to young Scott and Alex.

 

[Donnie Darko]

I really liked the Days of Future Past homage as well.

 

[BoredGuy]

The site that shall not be named has a preview of Coipel's art for #5 up.
it looks beautiful

but, did nobody inform the artists that rogue has control of her powers now??
everyone always draws her completely covered up with gloves and the whole deal
she doesn't need that any more, I'd think someone who always had to cover themselves would wear less constricting outfits

 

[JTStarkiller]

I LOVED Red Skull getting his goon to step in front of the shield.

 

[JewishHobbit]

The site that shall not be named has a preview of Coipel's art for #5 up.
it looks beautiful

but, did nobody inform the artists that rogue has control of her powers now??
everyone always draws her completely covered up with gloves and the whole deal
she doesn't need that any more, I'd think someone who always had to cover themselves would wear less constricting outfits

I don't know. I'd imagine that if that's what you wore for years and years then that's what you'd be used to. Even though she controls her powers, maybe she feels more comfortable covered up. Perhaps fear of losing control again?

 

[BoredGuy]

eh maybe
I feel like if I was confined to boots, tight pants, gloves and long sleeve shirts for around 10 years, i'd feel liberated to not have to

i'd be walkin round in boxers and flip-flops, 24/7

 

[StreetWarrior]

eh maybe
I feel like if I was confined to boots, tight pants, gloves and long sleeve shirts for around 10 years, i'd feel liberated to not have to

i'd be walkin round in boxers and flip-flops, 24/7

Unfortunately, not the best costume choice for frequent superhuman brawls... t:

 

[StreetWarrior]

Do you think it's well written though? I'm just curious as to how others feel about it. I find the explanatory descriptive panels really stupid and unnecessary.

I've enjoyed Uncanny Avengers so far. Could be better, could be worse. That goes for both the writing and the art. However, I feel that Remender's buildingto some truly epic things. We have Kang, Apocalypse (kids), the return of XavierSkull, and a Post-apocalyptic future scheduled for the next 20 issues. Add in the Wasp and Wonderman and I've actually really excited to see where the title goes.

Remender has stated that the coming arc(s) will be a direct sequel to the Dark Angel saga from Uncanny X-Force, which was undeniably awesome.

To answer your question though, the writing has been a little off. He never narrated like this in Punisher, UXF, or Venom so I don't know why we're going back to the Silver Age era of narration. It doesn't bug me too much, mainly becuase I'm currently working my way through Busiek's Avengers run and he too has an overabundance of narrtion and akward dialogue. I feel like both books could be better with some more moden story-telling/dialogue (not to be confused with the irritating "Bendis" speak that plagued New Avengers) but it could be worse.

I'd give the serious a solid 3 to 3.5 out of 5. Remender can do better and I have faith that, beginning with the next issue, he'll finally begin crafting something of the same high quality as Hickman's Avengers titles.

 

[StreetWarrior]

Does anyone else find it odd that (for now) a team that's supposed to be about mutant/human unity only has one human? I mean we have (so far) 1 human, 1 god, and 4 mutants.

 

[BoredGuy]

Unfortunately, not the best costume choice for frequent superhuman brawls... t:

Well in the preview, she's hanging a picture in the mansion, seemingly just loungin'

In that case, I'd say it's a rather perfect costume