as for me, if i dont like a movie the first (or 2nd) time ive seen it, i pretty much would have figured out by then that i didnt like it. thats what happened with me while watching batman begins. i just didnt like it. i tried to like it (believe me, i tried), i was on the boards everyday, acting as giddy as a schoolboy, watchin all the early trailers, waitin with bated breath for begins to hit theaters, then i saw it, and was like, wow what a letdown. didnt like bale as batman, didnt like how the villians were portrayed (god, burton should have done the scarecrow!) hated the look of gotham city (why does it look like chicago?) absolutly HATED the new bat-tank thing (thats not a batmobile), and hated katie holmes. i liked the cast, like morgan freeman, michael caine, and gary oldman....just not in this film. they downplayed everything, and i didnt like caines alfred more then anything (when did alfred go cockney?). dissappointing. hope the sequel is better.