Wal-Mart & The Hypesters

[Kritish]

So we now know Green Lantern's a capitalistic *******. Good to know.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Wal-Mart is f**king awesome. It has everything! Plus I really don't give a f**k about Wal-Mart's efforts against unionization. Most Wal-Mart employees are either:

a. freaking old people and I hate old people.

or

b. people who work there for a short time and aren't going to make a career out of it like most unionized occupations.

 

[Kritish]

Wal-Mart is f**king awesome. It has everything! Plus I really don't give a f**k about Wal-Mart's efforts against unionization. Most Wal-Mart employees are either:

a. freaking old people and I hate old people.

or

b. people who work there for a short time and aren't going to make a career out of it like most unionized occupations.

Everyone deserves to have fair wages and a good work environment, and if the government doesn't plan on stepping up on health care the companies should.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Everyone deserves to have fair wages and a good work environment, and if the government doesn't plan on stepping up on health care the companies should.

Yeah everyone deserves fair wages, a good work enviroment, and a good health care plan but it's f**king retail for crying out loud! It's a job that either a old person who's near death anyways or some young kid in college wants a temporary job goes to. And it's simple as hell with absolutely no skill at all involved.

It's not like an autoworker, or a plumber, or a firefighter, or an electrician who makes a career out of it or develop a skill out of it. Those kind of jobs need unions for the reasons you mentioned, not Wal-Mart.

 

[Kritish]

Yeah everyone deserves fair wages, a good work enviroment, and a good health care plan but it's f**king retail for crying out loud! It's a job that either a old person who's near death anyways or some young kid in college wants a temporary job goes to. And it's simple as hell with absolutely no skill at all involved.

It's not like an autoworker, or a plumber, or a firefighter, or an electrician who makes a career out of it or develop a skill out of it. Those kind of jobs need unions for the reasons you mentioned, not Wal-Mart.

So people in retail don't deserve to have those things? Are they somehow second class citizens?

 

[Orko Is King]

I don't have anything against them as a corporation, but I hate the workers and the people who go there are really annoying.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

For the love of Christ don't go there on Christmas Eve. I made that mistake a few years ago. No good can come of it.

 

[Kritish]

For the love of Christ don't go there on Christmas Eve. I made that mistake a few years ago. No good can come of it.

It's like the superdome in New Orleans during the holidays.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

You're kidding right? Wal-Mart is full of welfare bums who all weight 300 pounds.

Indeed. During my steady trek towards the hatred of humanity, it was in Wal-Mart where I made the most strides.

 

[hippie_hunter]

So people in retail don't deserve to have those things? Are they somehow second class citizens?

No, I'm not saying that they are second class citizens, but you don't go to Wal-Mart for a job with benefits.

And seriously, the AFL-CIO honestly disgusts me with attempting to unionize Wal-Mart. They don't give a f**k about the people they're trying to unionize. They know that Wal-Mart is the largest employer in the United States and getting Wal-Mart unionized would reinvigorate the union movement which is currently declining due to declining union membership, the UAW completely f**king GM in the ass, and several prominent unions leaving the group.

 

[Trainwreck2100]

It's like the superdome in New Orleans during the holidays.

It's going to be awful this weekend in Texas with the Tax holiday.

 

[hippie_hunter]

It's like the superdome in New Orleans during the holidays.

LOL! t:

 

[Green Lantern]

So we now know Green Lantern's a capitalistic *******. Good to know.

Think what you want. Are you communistic? No? Do you live by the rules of our capitalistic society? Yes? Oh no. You're *gasp* capitalistic.

 

[Kritish]

No, I'm not saying that they are second class citizens, but you don't go to Wal-Mart for a job with benefits.

And seriously, the AFL-CIO honestly disgusts me with attempting to unionize Wal-Mart. They don't give a f**k about the people they're trying to unionize. They know that Wal-Mart is the largest employer in the United States and getting Wal-Mart unionized would reinvigorate the union movement which is currently declining due to declining union membership, the UAW completely f**king GM in the ass, and several prominent unions leaving the group.

There is a lot of corruption within unions, but they've kept countless people from being taken advantage of. We can't trust corporations whose sole interest is making money.

 

[Kritish]

Think what you want. Are you communistic? No? Do you live by the rules of our capitalistic society? Yes? Oh no. You're *gasp* capitalistic.

I'm a democratic socialist, think Sweden.

 

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[hippie_hunter]

There is a lot of corruption within unions, but they've kept countless people from being taken advantage of. We can't trust corporations whose sole interest is making money.

Of course unions have helped a lot of workers. But the fact is that the AFL-CIO does not have the Wal-Mart workers best interests in mind at all, they only have theirs in mind for the particular reasons I mentioned.

 

[Green Lantern]

Everyone deserves to have fair wages and a good work environment, and if the government doesn't plan on stepping up on health care the companies should.

We do have fair wages. Tell me somewhere else that someone do as little as cashier and make $8.00 an hour with NO experience. Thats our minimum starting wage at my Wal-Mart, and actually thats for People Greeting and Cart Pushing, cashiers get $.80 more. At the Wal-Mart a city away its $8.40. At the Wal-Mart two hours away its $10.00. And again, thats NO experience. For every year, up to six, you get an additional .40 an hour. After three months you're mostly likely going to get either a $.40 raise or a $.55 raise. Say you had three years of experience and put out quality work in your first ninety days. Boom, you're at $10.55. Yes, thats COMPLETELY unfair wages.

Good work environment? You mean like, oh fifteen minute breaks every two hours? A lunch that employees are REQUIRED to take if they work at least six hours? Yeah, the unionized grocery store I worked at I got two breaks and no lunch in an eight hour shift. Wal-Mart (while I was an hourly associate) I got two breaks and an hour lunch for the same time period. I don't take fifteen minute breaks anymore, but thats because I don't want them. I have too much to get done, and I'm on a salary. But thats my choice, not the company's.

Good benefits? How many companies or unions offer cancer insurance? And the rates and benefits of Wal-Mart's associate insurance programs are great compared to most other company offered programs. Not to mention the non-insurance benefits. Ten percent off almost all non-grocery merchandise.
Non company discounts that apply to:

Several national tourist attractions, including: Kennedy Space Center, the San Diego Zoo, the Fort Worth Zoo, and Stone Mountain Park

Discounts from Ford, GMC, and Daimer-Chrysler

Discounts from Enterprise Car Rental, Alamo, Hertz, Avis and Budget.

Every major cell-phone carrier.

Many movie theaters.

Pro baseball team tickets: Braves, Orioles, Rangers, Angels and Royals.

Theme parks:

Busch Gardens, Disneyland, Knott's Berry Farm, Kings Island, Legoland, Sea World, Six Flags, Universal Studios and Disney World.

Among many others.

Yes, such crappy benefits.

Oh not to mention: Profit sharing? Already this year, full time associates in my Wal-Mart have received a $424 bonus check in the first quarter, and in less than a month they'll be receiving another $475 for the second quarter. Compare this to management (money grubbing capitalistic *******s that we are ) we only get one bonus check a year, and thats IF we qualify for the year.

How about stock purchase program? For every dollar that you spend of your check on Wal-Mart stock, the company contributes an additional $.15. May not seem like much, but if you're taking out $50 a check, thats an additional $7.50 a check that you get for free.
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[Green Lantern]

There is a lot of corruption within unions, but they've kept countless people from being taken advantage of. We can't trust corporations whose sole interest is making money.

So Unions aren't interested in making money? BULL S**T. If that were true they wouldn't charge dues.

 

[SapphirePrima]

Have you guys read The Jungle?

 

[Kritish]

So Unions aren't interested in making money? BULL S**T. If that were true they wouldn't charge dues.

They need dues so they can keep operating dumb ass.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Isn't that the book that talked about horrible conditions a hundred years ago?

 

[SapphirePrima]

Isn't that the book that talked about horrible conditions a hundred years ago?

Yeah,

 

[Green Lantern]

No they don't. There are several hundred volunteer organizations, that exist purely by donations, not by forced payment of those that they help. If unions REALLY cared about the people who joined them, they would be volunteer organizations.

 

[Green Lantern]

Yeah,

Again, 100 years ago, unions were a necessity, when the majority of the work force was putting in 12-20 hour days in hot factories and plants with grueling conditions. There is no comparison between a turn of the century meat plant and a Wal-Mart in the 21st century, not by any stretch of the imagination.