WB/DC: It's All Part Of The Plan

[X Knight]

agreed. even if you dislike SR or Singer, you don't need to bring up Singer's sexuality.....

 

[The Guard]

It's even funnier because Bryan Singer isn't gay.

 

[X Knight]

wait.....I thought Singer was gay????

It doesn't really matter, though.

 

[Super Kal]

It's even funnier because Bryan Singer isn't gay.

actually, you're wrong... he is.

 

[nintendo nerd]

someone is about to get banned

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

I nor anyone else here should give a rat's ass about the sexual orientation of Bryan Singer or anyone else...

Knock it off.

 

[nintendo nerd]

Is Singerman a movie about a man who likes to sing? Or a song like Piano man
from Billy Joel?

 

[Excel]

It's even funnier because Bryan Singer isn't gay.

Yeah, he is. And I hate to say it...but he really may be onto something.

Superman Returns basic plot was veryyy similar to that from THE NOTEBOOK. TNB opened 2 weeks before Singer made his WB pitch. In fact James Marsden plays THE SAME CHARACTER esentially in both films. Singer has stated

this is a film about when old boyfriends return

which made me go

"Thats what the new, 200 million dollar superman film is about"

I dunno bout his...gaying up the film...but he def. took a lot inspiration from The Notebook, a film primarily made for women.

 

[Super Kal]

wow... I didn't know that, Excel...

 

[El Payaso]

JESUS CHRIST!!! So, artist do get inspiration from other pieces of art sometimes???

 

[Billy Batson]

JESUS CHRIST!!! So, artist do get inspiration from other pieces of art sometimes???

Synopsis for
The Notebook

The movie starts off with an old man in a nursing home reading a story to an old woman each day. The story he reads is about two young lovers named Allie Hamilton and Noah Calhoun. They met one evening at a carnival many years ago. Although Allie refuses Noah's request to go on a date at first, she changes her mind after a double date with her friend. After that, they spent the whole summer together. Allie's parents disapproved of this and separate Noah and Allie because of Noah's lack of wealth. After waiting for Noah to write to her for several years, Allie meets and becomes engaged to a handsome young soldier named Lon.

Allie did not know that Noah had written 365 letters, one letter a day for a year. He stops writing after a year because he had never gotten a response. In a local newspaper years later, Noah's picture catches Allie's eye. He is standing in front of a fully restored, 200 year-old home. The article is filled with praise for his accomplishments. Allie's heart nearly bursts and she faints; the last time she saw the house it was rotted and decaying, and Noah spoke of his plans to buy and renovate the house.

With her love for Noah still alive, the picture pulls at her heart. She feels she must go back, see if Noah is okay, and tell him about her marriage. Noah seems distant when first seeing Allie. However, he invites her in after she mistakenly drives into his fence. Noah and Allie have lunch, visit and Noah walks her to her car later that evening. He asks her to come back the next morning, as he has something he wants to show her. Allie goes to her hotel, where she gets a phonecall from Lon. She tells Lon that she's tired, and will call him the next day. She goes back to Noah's house in the morning and he takes her out on the lake in a rowboat. Noah shows Allie a part of the lake, where hundreds of white ducks are gathered. It starts to rain heavily, and turns into an absolute downpour. They both wonder why each other ended the relationship and Allie says that she was never ready for the relationship to be over, to which Noah replies "It never was over for me, it still isn't over", and he then kisses Allie passionately. He carries her into the house, where they make love for the first time. In the morning, Allie asks Noah why he never wrote to her. Noah tells Allie that he wrote 365 letters but she apparently had never received them. When Allie's mother comes to pick her up after a few days, she learns that her mother's true love is a lumberjack whom she visits to see and wonder what would've happened had she followed her heart. She then leaves Allie to decide who she would like to be with after giving her the letters that Noah sent. Allie is then faced with the decision of picking between her finance Lon, and her true love Noah.

In the end, she realizes that she needed Noah in her life. She returned to Noah and they lived a long, wonderful life together. Allie gets Alzheimer's and soon forgets all of her life with Noah. Noah reads from a notebook Allie had written about all that happened in their life together, and soon gets Allie to remember, despite what her doctors said. At night, Noah sneaks into Allie's room and they die together peacefully in their sleep.

 

[X Knight]

ok...knock it off guys.....Singer's sexual orientation should have nothing to do with SR.

Did I like SR? No!

Did I think Superman in SR was a major wuss? Yes!

However, that has nothing to do with Singer's sexual orientation!

I'm not gay....but I couldn't care less if Singer is. That has no bearing on whether or not I liked SR.

so....please.....let's not turn this into a gay-bashing thread questioning Singer's sexuality.

let's stick to the topic......Where should WB go from here?

 

[nintendo nerd]

ok...knock it off guys.....Singer's sexual orientation should have nothing to do with SR.

Did I like SR? No!

Did I think Superman in SR was a major wuss? Yes!

However, that has nothing to do with Singer's sexual orientation!

I'm not gay....but I couldn't care less if Singer is. That has no bearing on whether or not I liked SR.

so....please.....let's not turn this into a gay-bashing thread questioning Singer's sexuality.

let's stick to the topic......Where should WB go from here?

They should go with MOS. Simple.

 

[Excel]

JESUS CHRIST!!! So, artist do get inspiration from other pieces of art sometimes???

Theres nothing wrong with that-infact the idea itself COULD have been a very good one and COULD have worked really well but...you dont think theres something, I dunno, odd about Singers plot being inspired by one of the biggest chick flicks in the past decade?

Superman films entire plots should not be inspired by chick flicks, sorry but thats how I see it.

 

[BMM]

NO one is Bashing anyone's sexuality, but Singer did make a very questionable Superman film.
Hell the media even raised that question about this generation's Superman sexuality.
That's the new "IN" thing in Hollywood today, Hell! There is even talk about updating James Bond to have a fling with a guy, for crying out aloud.
You guys wish to pretend other wise, fine by me, I left the subject alone.
Why not make new characters who have those preferences, I'll except that. The media put Singer's business out there, not me.
Now if SR was any good, this would not even be a question, from me anyway. You got to admit, Singer was coming from a different place (estrogen)with his take on Big Blue.

The media brought it up over 2 years ago, and you're the one bringing it up now. You're trolling in a thread discussing Warner Bros. future plans by referencing scenes from Superman Returns, which is altogether irrelevant to the topic at hand. Moreover, you're not really discussing Superman Returns. You're using it as a roundabout way to bash the movie by portraying the director's sexual orientation in a negative light, i.e. gay childhood sex fantasies, Lex giving it to Superman "Brokeback" style, and that Routh's facial expressions while being stabbed in the back are akin to the facial expressions of a homosexual encounter. I don't know why this is even up for debate. C. Lee has pretty much implemented a ban policy for this kind of crap.

 

[KobiKai]

Ok I've just found out Singer is gay but if he really projected any sexual preference on screen then why hasn't this been brought up about X-Men? the answer is, it's not and if you've found it then it's been interpreted that way by you not Singer

IMO Singer's Superman is rubbish because he made too many wrong calls and misunderstood the public, this mistake a side his film making credentials are impressive and it was his vision that brought the X-Men to the wider publics attention.
I'd be ready to bet if SR was never made this board would be full of people putting Singer forward as the man to bring superman back to life.

The harsh reality now-a-days is that no one under 20 (as a whole) gives a crap about superman or what he stands for, they prefer their hero's to be more three dimensional with a slight dark side to their nature.

Jack Sparrow vs Superman

To them Jack will always win

 

[X Knight]

I actually give Singer credit for revitalizing the whole current CB movie genre.

With his X1, Singer proved that you could take major comic book figures ( in this case the X-men ) and make intelligent movies set in the modern day real world.

If it wasn't for the first X-men movie, then we may never have gotten the Spidey franchise or Batman Begins or Iron Man, etc.

 

[Nixon]

NO one is Bashing anyone's sexuality, but Singer did make a very questionable Superman film.

No, you're just implying that because he's gay, Singer's so sex-crazed that he can't have two male characters interacting in one of his movies without giving it a homoerotic subtext.

Hell the media even raised that question about this generation's Superman sexuality.

Yeah, and it ranged from people talking about the superhero as metaphor for a closeted homosexual lifestyle to GLBT advocates applauding the fact that an openly gay director was at the helm of a major American icon to homophobic morons turning a non-issue into a battleground in the supposed "Culture Wars".

Where in that spectrum, do you think your comments would fall exactly?

That's the new "IN" thing in Hollywood today, Hell! There is even talk about updating James Bond to have a fling with a guy, for crying out aloud.

Yup, a nice bit of faux controversy to keep people talking about the next Bond movie. A few words and Bond is all over the place again. Cynical as it is, you just can't buy that kind of publicity.

This has what to do with that movie about Superman and Lois exactly?

You guys wish to pretend other wise, fine by me, I left the subject alone.

Sure, except for all the innuendo regarding Bryan Singer, his childhood, and how he views Superman and Lex Luthor's relathionship, you totally left it alone.

Why not make new characters who have those preferences, I'll except that. The media put Singer's business out there, not me.

"Those preferences"?

In Superman Returns the only preference Superman demonstrated was for Lois. Those X-Men movies contained more homosexual subtext (being a mutant can be viewed as a metaphor for being GLBT) than this movie did. When Bryan Singer said this was probably the most heterosexual movie he's made he wasn't lying.

Now if SR was any good, this would not even be a question, from me anyway. You got to admit, Singer was coming from a different place (estrogen)with his take on Big Blue.

Gotcha, it's the "homophobic moron" end of the spectrum you're coming from.

 

[superbaby]

I actually give Singer credit for revitalizing the whole current CB movie genre.

With his X1, Singer proved that you could take major comic book figures ( in this case the X-men ) and make intelligent movies set in the modern day real world.

If it wasn't for the first X-men movie, then we may never have gotten the Spidey franchise or Batman Begins or Iron Man, etc.

i don't know. i always feel that X1 is a B-rated movie. and it's ending, the climate was never there. the threat never come.

 

[KobiKai]

i don't know. i always feel that X1 is a B-rated movie. and it's ending, the climate was never there. the threat never come.

IMO the first one introduced the characters and made you want a sequel to see what would happen next now the team was complete

 

[Nixon]

i don't know. i always feel that X1 is a B-rated movie. and it's ending, the climate was never there. the threat never come.

Agreed. The first X-Men has a lot of cool moments but there's something missing that keeps it from coming together and knocking it out of the park. It's good, but it's not great.

X2 though, is awesome.

 

[Hunter Rider]

This thread is a total mess, Ive never seen so much childish bickering and ridiculous assumption making in all my time here. The crass jokes about the sexual orientation of Singer are a tired and lame attempt by those that dislike the movie, there are plenty of valid points to discuss about the pros and cons of the film without stooping to gutter tactics.

Everyone calm down and knock it off.

 

[Excel]

So...where should w.b. go from here?

 

[KobiKai]

So...where should w.b. go from here?

Truthfully there's been too many mistakes and bad feeling involving SR, i'd wait 5 years then reboot with a completely updated image. The question was asked in SR "does the world need superman" sorry to say at the moment it's no

Wrong time wrong place, no one is to blame really

 

[Nixon]

For all it's supposed flaws, Superman Returns still delivered nearly $400 million worldwide and got a lot of positive buzz from critics. The best easiest thing for WB to do, I'd think, would be to make another movie with Routh and Singer but keep a tighter grip on the purse strings and insist on a little more pandering to the young male demographic.